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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 01-11-2013, 06:54 AM
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Good points, BB. When it comes to enigmas, the real truth is too elusive to pursue. I just accept the reality and drive on!

I think one thing we all seem to agree on, the overall e39 driving experience is unique and incomparable.
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Old 01-11-2013, 07:18 AM
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E39 is the first car that I have owned and ever wrenched on. I started wrenching on it because I have no reliable independent shop to fall back on, therefore I don't feel like having my wallet sucked dry. And the shops I have been too in the past were not favorable experiences. So I decided to do what I can. With Bentley, TIS, DIY guides from this forum, I started working on the car. Working on it doesn't scare me, the pathetic replacement parts that are subpar quality are what annoy me into doing the same job more then once. If I didn't love this car so much I wouldn't put up with this, but it's a pleasure to drive. And yes even the dealer sells bum parts.(see my expansion tank thread where it fails after 2 months, and to make matter worse they refused to warranty it for me.)
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:02 PM
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My Porsche is more fun to work on than the e39.

In regards to the components or systems, one must consider the regulatory environment and the car's market intent.

For instance, notice all of the new Euros are pug nosed? EU requirements for pedestrians. The EU put in car recycling mandates during the time the e39 was put into production. So, CCV, cooling system are from environmental requirements and regulations. Look at the US mandating TPMS, Blackboxes, backup cameras, traction control and etc.

In terms of intent, BMW engineers for performance rather than reliability or long-term part life. As a sacrifice, you put more money into the car and have it regularly services (see car inspections). Plus, all of that "terrible plastic" in the e39 makes the car light. Read e39 is bigger, more rigid, yet lighter than the e34. Lets see... plastic and aluminum suspension anyone? And, coming from the performance standpoint, many of these "crap parts" have still went over 10 years of service or 100k+ miles before the thing broke down on the owner.

But this is the Internet so we must have a consolidated complain fest.
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:12 PM
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Fragile if you do things wrong. Not a car you can screw up on.
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:31 PM
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Interesting to see all the varied responses...was expecting a love fest.

Was wrenching last night, and it was a bit frustrating...not b/c of design, but b/c I was trying to recycle parts. Purchased a used SAP from a 'recycler'. uses a different style hose than the one that was on it. Will need to just buy a new one, but it is cobbled together for now. Also one of the litte rubber grommets the SAP sits on was ripped... glued back together with marine silicone...again, shoulda bought new.
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Old 01-12-2013, 05:50 AM
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A great man once said "Trust... but verify."
Off topic question Fudman but enquiring minds need to know: the phrase was originally used by Vladimir Lenin (borrowing from a Russian proverb) then re-used by Ronald Reagan. Which side of the political spectrum does your "great man" sit?
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