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Old 12-26-2012, 01:14 PM
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I think the NBT was around 700
Damn. That is about $1130 USD, which is pretty cheap. With labor and FSC Codes though, it gets to be an expensive proposition.
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Old 12-26-2012, 01:19 PM
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Apps I will be paying for at the dealers as I get an update to 2.48 as part & parcel!!
The FSC's will have to be downloaded as part of loading the apps fsc so I'll get the tech to put them on a USB for me!
So will the new NBT unit be programmed with your VIN, and in doing so, will you be able to just download and use your existing FSC Codes for Nav, Voice, and SLI, or do you need to actually buy new FSC Codes?
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Old 12-26-2012, 02:12 PM
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The unit will come with the sw on & will require coding to my vin & then the FSC's loading in, I was going to attempt to load them with esys, if not maybe ask Bimmertech to do it, I'm still trying to find out if the FSC's are constructed in the same way for NBT as they are for CIC otherwise it might turn into a REALLY expensive exercise!!!
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Old 12-26-2012, 02:32 PM
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The unit will come with the sw on & will require coding to my vin & then the FSC's loading in, I was going to attempt to load them with esys, if not maybe ask Bimmertech to do it, I'm still trying to find out if the FSC's are constructed in the same way for NBT as they are for CIC otherwise it might turn into a REALLY expensive exercise!!!
No, I am pretty sure FSC codes will be identical. If you can salvage yours and reuse them, this retrofit is not bad cost wise.

The folks that did CCC to CIC retrofits, they had no choice but to buy an emulator and or FSC Codes, as there old CCC had no FSC Codes I don't think.
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:19 AM
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Had a good chat with a Master Tech at BM this morning & he is pretty sure that that the FSC codes are different for the NBT as the units are made by a different manufacturer
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:49 AM
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Had a good chat with a Master Tech at BM this morning & he is pretty sure that that the FSC codes are different for the NBT as the units are made by a different manufacturer
I'll believe it only when it is confirmed. Even thought the Head Unit is made by a different Manufacturer, it is made to BMW Specifications, which I doubt changed in regard to the FSC Code.
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:37 AM
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Does the HU NBT include a 3G modem/phone if it replaces the telematics box?
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:40 AM
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Does the HU NBT include a 3G modem/phone if it replaces the telematics box?
If you have HU_NBT and:

Option Code: 6NL BMW Assist with enhanced Bluetooth and USB, then it includes a 3G SIM Card in it.

Option Code: 6NK GSM preperation with USB and Bluetooth connectivity, then you have Media only and no Telematics.
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:45 AM
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They have sort of gone back to the old days by introducing a TCB telematics unit for all the assist functions (this has the SIM card built in) but now rather than having an MULF2 for the USB side they have integrated that into the HU_NBT
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:48 AM
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They have sort of gone back to the old days by introducing a TCB telematics unit for all the assist functions (this has the SIM card built in) but now rather than having an MULF2 for the USB side they have integrated that into the HU_NBT
How is your NBT Retrofit going? Any progress?
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:51 AM
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Thanks. Only have 6NK and Bmw assist is not availible here in Sweden.
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Old 01-14-2013, 04:04 PM
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None I'm afraid, ended up returning the car to BMW due to the paint issues so I have a 2013 model coming in 8 weeks.
Better spec'd as well!
http://www.bmwvin.com/?vin=D163737
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Old 01-14-2013, 04:17 PM
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None I'm afraid, ended up returning the car to BMW due to the paint issues so I have a 2013 model coming in 8 weeks.
Better spec'd as well!
http://www.bmwvin.com/?vin=D163737
Ok. Well congrats on the new 2013 car.
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:45 AM
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Can't wait to test these wifi streaming features & video on the HDD!!!
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Old 06-24-2013, 03:41 AM
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Hi

Can someone send me from the extra plug connection.
I have to connect fbas 3.

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Old 09-05-2013, 11:01 AM
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Yes, the NBT Connections are this:

HSD Connections:

Purple = APIX Connector for CID
Light Green = USB3 for Telematics Control Box (TCB)
Curry = USB2 for 6NF Base Plate
Beige = USB1 for 6FL Aux-In USB
Orange = Ethernet for RSE

* NBT has no Glovebox USB data port. The USB Port in the Center Armrest now does data too.

FAKRA Connections:

Beige = Bluetooth Arial
Burgandy = WLAN Arial
Curry = DAB Band 3
Green = DAB Band L
White = FM2
Black = AM / FM1
Blue = GPS Arial
Hi, I just upgraded NBT for my F30.
Problem is now I can not use USB data port in Armrest box.
The white cable can not fit to Beige port





I try to cut some egde around white jack and I can fit to Beige port, but USB data still not avaiable...
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Old 09-05-2013, 02:02 PM
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Hi, I just upgraded NBT for my F30.
Problem is now I can not use USB data port in Armrest box.
The white cable can not fit to Beige port

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I try to cut some egde around white jack and I can fit to Beige port, but USB data still not avaiable...
You are trying it in the beige HSD connector #12, and not the beige Fakra connector #15, correct?

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If you updated from HU_Champ, then I don't know what type connector you have in your car, although I would be surprised if it wasn't also HSD.

In any event, you need to get a good connection to the car. If you were able to modify the White connector to fit and make a good connection, and USB Port does not work, I am not sure why.

Do you still have 6FL in your VO?
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:18 PM
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You are trying it in the beige HSD connector #12, and not the beige Fakra connector #15, correct?

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If you upgraded from CIC Unit, the HSD Connector is identical as the old connector #2:

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If you updated from HU_Champ, then I don't know what type connector you have in your car, although I would be surprised if it wasn't also HSD.

In any event, you need to get a good connection to the car. If you were able to modify the White connector to fit and make a good connection, and USB Port does not work, I am not sure why.

Do you still have 6FL in your VO?
Yes, I connected to connector no 12.
This is my original HU

What is 6FL?
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:28 PM
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Yes, I connected to connector no 12.
This is my original HU

What is 6FL?
Thanks
Damn. That looks like it should mate right up.

6FL is the VO Option Code for Center Armrest USB/AUX in Port.
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Damn. That looks like it should mate right up.

6FL is the VO Option Code for Center Armrest USB/AUX in Port.
I called the seller and he confirm coding today. Hope it work after coding.
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Old 09-05-2013, 06:51 PM
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I called the seller and he confirm coding today. Hope it work after coding.
What did he say was needed as far as the coding goes?

Any changes to the VO Options or build date?
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I'm really interested in this. Please do post details upon successful retrofit.
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I'm really interested in this. Please do post details upon successful retrofit.
FYI

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Thanks. Did you buy different cable? Flashing and/or coding needed? Was it a new NBT or used?
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Thanks. Did you buy different cable? Flashing and/or coding needed? Was it a new NBT or used?
It was used Unit. The cable is previous CIC cable.
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