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Old 01-16-2013, 02:36 PM
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I want to install U.S. dash cluster in my Euro version e65

OK people I have a European version e65. I want to change dash cluster to read MPH. My question is, will the U.S. versions read the mileage correctly? Or could I just swap some things over out of each cluster? Im simply tired of looking at a paper than looking at the speed on dash to make sure I'm not speeding or going to SLOW :screwy: help
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:46 PM
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lol... isnt there both mph and kph on the cluster.... i have seen uk bmw like this jut primary (kmh) is on outside ring and mph on inside ring
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:52 PM
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Rage there isn't no MPH at all only km/h!
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:59 PM
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thats some bull$hit
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:42 PM
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I have a 745 gauge cluster for sale if you wanted to do the swap. Message me if your interested.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:45 AM
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What ever gauge cluster you get you will need to take the electrical board off of your orginal and install it on the new cluster, then reinstall back into the dash.
All of you KOMBI information will be retained and no programming needed.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:17 PM
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@nygal, thanks for the reply. I totally understand and that is what I'm going to do but I'm afraid that the MPH needle want read right. If um going 35 MPH but the needle is on 45mph. Ant thoughts?
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You could move to Canada
When I drive in the states, I just keep a few conversion numbers in my head. i.e. 50kph is 30mph, 80kph is 50mph, and 110kph is 70mph, and I interpolate for other speeds.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:42 PM
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that's what I'm already doing. I don't mind speeding but I'll like to no I'm sleeping. In Florida
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:27 PM
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everything will be fine. It will work cause the is no calibration difference in the two.
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I believe your mileage will be affected & you
will get the TAMPER DOT On your cluster ,
Since the VIN & mileage from other cluster
Will not match your car ...

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basically I have had my cluster droken down looking for bad soldering spots or bad connections. The speed gauge detach fairly ez. I just didn't want to buy U.S. cluster and still have the speedo readings off.
The only thing I am going to change is the MPH gauge. Not any of the electrical parts. Just the MPH gauge.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:41 AM
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pick a MPH and then look at your original cluster and you will see that its the same. If all you are change is cosmetic and mechanical everything will be fine. Paper is correct, that will happen if you do a direct swap of two different clusters.
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:55 AM
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I wish you posted this a week ago. I threw my parts cluster in the trash thinking there were no useful salvageable pieces left.
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Old 01-19-2013, 06:23 PM
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Dang, snoop i could've use those parts..lol
Its all good. I'm going to pick up another cluster ask unit and L7 for the low Monday.
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Why not just code the car to the UK spec?
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OK folks finally have my odometer reading MPH! Thanks for all the help. Wouldn't have done without U.
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OK folks finally have my odometer reading MPH! Thanks for all the help. Wouldn't have done without U.
glad it worked out,
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Hey

Am looking to do the opposite swap !

My odo is MPH and I wan't it to be only in KM/h



Any one need MPH I can do the swap for him


also if anyone have Km/h odo I will buy it if he wants



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I got what u need
And I'll explain how to do the swap without messing with any settings ie) mileage and so on. Lemme no

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Old 01-24-2013, 02:15 PM
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I got what u need
And I'll explain how to do the swap without messing with any settings ie) mileage and so on. Lemme no


that's fantastic .. I will PM you now
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:37 PM
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Here ya go. this euro cluster is up for sale if anyone needs it.
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Old 01-27-2013, 07:18 AM
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Here ya go. this euro cluster is up for sale if anyone needs it.
Mr745i, I assume you followed Nygel's advice and just swapped the electronics from your original cluster into the US Spec MPH cluster?

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What ever gauge cluster you get you will need to take the electrical board off of your orginal and install it on the new cluster, then reinstall back into the dash.
All of you KOMBI information will be retained and no programming needed.
hope this helps
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Nygel, any idea if just overwriting the VIN in the used cluster (via NSCExpert) is sufficient for it to take over the Odometer reading stored in the CAS module? I am assuming the Odometer reading in the CAS is greater than that stored in the used cluster.

The training PDF in the DIY section has the following statement:
"Note: In the case of a used instrument cluster (vehicle identification number is entered), the vehicle identification number can be overwritten up to a kilometer reading of 254 km (158mi). A reset of the permanently stored mileage reading is not possible."

But often I find limitations listed in the training literature are just limitations of DIS and Progman.

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Old 02-03-2013, 10:45 AM
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I spoke incorrectly above in regards to using NCSExpert to overwrite the VIN. The job does not appear to exist in NCSExpert.
WinKFP has two such a jobs, one for the "internal VIN" and one for the VIN stored in the UIF (User Information Field). Unfortunately the instrument cluster (KOMBI) rejects the change to the internal VIN on a used cluster. You can change the UIF VIN, but you still get the tamper dot. The attached photo shows the used cluster plugged into my car. It took over the correct odometer reading, but lit the tamper dot as the internal VIN's don't match.

I just disassembled the used cluster to the point where I could remove the speedometer gauge, repeat with my original cluster, then swap gauges. They have the same range (up to 260 km/h), so no coding or programming was required. Plus I was able to keep all my original KOMBI electronics.
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