2014 BMW X5 revealed in leak!

Originally Posted by Whippa

What about this 300hp
plus diesel ?

If it's anything like the current hybrids, in lieu of the spare tire, they put in some batteries and an electric motor.

Anyways I would pick the diesel over the petrol if I was going to get another X5.

Meh... It does not look dramatically different from the E70. Prefer the E70 M Sport.

Originally Posted by dcharnet

Absolutely. Great second gen V-6 Italian diesel with 8-speed, MB platform, 28-30 mpg highway, 420 ft lbs torque.

Sounds like it's a great Italian engine indeed. I'll take it in an X5 any day. In a Jeep, however... I'll pass. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Whippa

What about this 300hp
plus diesel ?

+1. I also I'm intregued... Would love to have a 300hp + / 450 lb-ft + engine. Unfortunately, odds are we're only getting a smaller and slightly LESS powerful diesel engine (but with better MPG) than the current X5d engine. Hope I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by alphaod

If it's anything like the current hybrids, in lieu of the spare tire, they put in some batteries and an electric motor.

Anyways I would pick the diesel over the petrol if I was going to get another X5.

The art. mentioned a 3.o ltr diesel with 302 HP...not the hybrid..

Originally Posted by kanar200

Based on these pics I think E70 might not loose so much on its value after F15 launch…..

Depends on the price. If prices go up, and I am betting they will, then that will help E70 resale.

Originally Posted by Emission

Looks like a Touareg.

- Mike

Yeah. Not loving it or hating it. Does not make me want to upgrade though. It is the same reaction I had to the F30 vs the E90. That was the first time a new BMW did not make me want to trade for it. Looks like that is happening again with the F15.

Originally Posted by serge1

Could be due to bad resolution of the first picture, but put E70 and F15 side by side, and regular folks will have a hard time figuring out which one is newer vehicle..

Looks like the only things that changed in F15 is tail lights, head lights, couple contour lines, and a new hole in the fenders (they call them air vents).

I really dont think any of those changes are for the better. The stance is somewhat less aggressive, which is why they are trying to overcompensate the lack of aggression with the overly "mean" headlights...

Will need to see how F15 looks in real life, but so far, not planning to trade up.

Same here. The E70 does look more aggressive and sporty. The F15 reminds me of a Volvo xc90. More mommy mobile looking. I will reserve judgment until the M version is released before I decide if I will keep mine or trade up.

Originally Posted by finnbmw

I'll withhold my final judgement until I see one in person, but so far this new design does not speak to me. Glad I bought my E70's before they quit making them.

I suspected I might not love the F15 which is why I got the E70. I figured if I was wrong about the F15 I could always trade up when the M version comes out.

Originally Posted by L0rd NIk0n

Like the new front, hate the back. Feels like a bigger X3 to me.

It looks EXACTLY like a longer x3. I mean there is no difference whatsoever. They took the x3 and stretched it and stuck an x5 badge on it.

Originally Posted by Die Wolfe

I like what ND40oz said; wait for the M sport package to judge. Cause honestly, IMO, the F10 doesn't look too sporty/aggressive/masculine at all W/O the M sport package (not knocking non M sports).

I absolutely love the look of my E70 but was initially concerned about a newer and better model coming out right away. Although this is just a rough idea of the next X5, I'm very happy I stuck with the E70 because I don't think any new model will beat its aggressive looks.

Agreed and my opinion is not because I have the older one. I can easily afford to trade up to the new one if I end up liking it more than the E70. However, I don't see that happening based on how this thing looks. Maybe I ll like the F16 x6M.

i prefer the 2013 front air intakes, the f15 look small and feeble. they should really just use the x5M intakes.
this is a beautiful front end.....

i prefer the 2013 front air intakes, the f15 look small and feeble. they should really just use the x5M intakes.
this is a beautiful front end.....

Originally Posted by blown383

i prefer the 2013 front air intakes, the f15 look small and feeble. they should really just use the x5M intakes.
this is a beautiful front end.....

Couldn't agree more!

I think this one looks much better

When I saw the new 3 series pictures I was dissapointed, but in "person" is a really nice car, hope it will be the same with this one.

I don't like it at all :S

I like the front, not the back at all. I have an X3 now and if this were a little smaller I'd say, oh, the updated the X3!

I'm sure it won't disappoint.

Originally Posted by trios

I'm sure it won't disappoint.

Looks like the Sport package with the 20s.

Disappointing...

My hopes are that the pictures that were 'leaked' are not 100% exact as they were intended for model cars.

I actually received a call from my dealer yesterday afternoon and he said that while they didn't have any pictures of it yet, that the new 2014 X5 was going to start production in August 2013.

I have my 2011 X5 (purchased 07/2010) and have been waiting for the 2014 X5 to come out for a while now as my intention was to swap out the 2011 for the new 2014.

As others have mentioned, lets not get 'too' critical of a picture of a model at this point and see what ends up on the new car circuit this year.

I'm personally hoping for a better exterior than what is depicted here, LED headlights and taillights along with an updated interior to mirror that of the 650i and possibly a really nice M package with a nice selection of staggered wheels.

On the engine front, a higher power diesel would be really nice, but with some significant gains in MPG. I look at what most folks are getting with their 35d's and I'm getting the exact same thing with my 35i.

To sum it all up, I'm really hoping to see a final actual vehicle soon as if it's not any much better inside and out, I'm just going to order a new 2013 X5M while we still can.

With production starting in August you would think that they would want to start filling the order books around May. So official pictures can't be far off to drum up some anticipation.

Originally Posted by BMWOO7

I look at what most folks are getting with their 35d's and I'm getting the exact same thing with my 35i.

No, you aren't getting same mpgs .

If new x5 is close to European 40d, I would be happy.

Originally Posted by serge1

No, you aren't getting same mpgs .

Originally Posted by serge1

No, you aren't getting same mpgs .

If new x5 is close to European 40d, I would be happy.

MPG-wise, the new diesel will probably will be close to the 40d. Unfortunately, it won't be even close to it in terms of performance. Heck, at 255 hp and 415 lb-ft, it will actually be weaker than the one we now have in our X5 35ds!

the reason is that it would be probably single turbo and 35d is double/twin-turbo (whatever the name), 35d US spec was downgraded in terms of power in comparison to Euro spec; 40d is double/twin-turbo and has 306 BHP right now, it is likely it will be more powerful in 2013/2014

Originally Posted by Marwan

MPG-wise, the new diesel will probably will be close to the 40d. Unfortunately, it won't be even close to it in terms of performance. Heck, at 255 hp and 415 lb-ft, it will actually be weaker than the one we now have in our X5 35ds!

Yes, 10 less HPs and 10 less torques, but they say it will also be 300lbs lighter.
Maybe, just maybe, the performance will stay the same.
Unfortunately, the competion will likely move ahead.

not really, we know already what Audi/Porsche will be offering, right? 245 HP as far as I remember

Originally Posted by kanar200

the reason is that it would be probably single turbo and 35d is double/twin-turbo (whatever the name), 35d US spec was downgraded in terms of power in comparison to Euro spec; 40d is double/twin-turbo and has 306 BHP right now, it is likely it will be more powerful in 2013/2014

In this case having two versus one turbo does not mean more means better.

The N54 engine was a parallel twin-turbochargers while the N55 is a single twin scroll turbocharger. Both engines produced same output but the N55 was more fuel efficient, lower emissions, less turbo lag.

Originally Posted by Kzang

In this case having two versus one turbo does not mean more means better.

The N54 engine was a parallel twin-turbochargers while the N55 is a single twin scroll turbocharger. Both engines produced same output but the N55 was more fuel efficient, lower emissions, less turbo lag.

Yeah, but the N54 is a better engine from the enthusiast's perspective. More top end power and tuning capabilities. Even BMW knows that.

- Mike