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If you check out the new stingray dash... It's pretty similar to the LCI display for BMW (I believe only Europe/Canada gets it), it's pretty sick, and the new interior on the corvette looks a lot less "plasticky"... I'd take my C6 over the garbage C7 interior any day...
Your C6 has a much cleaner exterior design as well. With all the stuff going on with the C7's body, I would not be surprised if Hasbro is now "developing" a C7-based "character" to be revealed in the next Transformers movie as BumbleBee's older brother who was captured by the Decepticons.
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Pictures from the Manhattan debut of the C7 Corvette. The white 1953 is the third Corvette ever made and is the car that was show at GM Motorama at the Waldoft Astoria 60 years ago.



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The only time you see a young guy driving a Corvette is when he borrow it from his father, usually the smile is from ear to ear.
As I recall, the median age of a Corvette buyer is 53, just a couple years older than BMW buyers. We are talking, what, 3% more grey hair?

Regardless of the buyer's age, a lot of Corvettes are seriously driven on the track, autoX, twisty country roads. There are sure a lot of them at events for a car of which only about 35,000 are made a year.

Very few live boring, stultifying lives of taking the wife to the mall and the kid to soccer practice.
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Very few live boring, stultifying lives of taking the wife to the mall and the kid to soccer practice.
If they build a vette with decent backseats, you will see many vette drivers with "boring" lives too
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As I recall, the median age of a Corvette buyer is 53, just a couple years older than BMW buyers. We are talking, what, 3% more grey hair?

Regardless of the buyer's age, a lot of Corvettes are seriously driven on the track, autoX, twisty country roads. There are sure a lot of them at events for a car of which only about 35,000 are made a year.

Very few live boring, stultifying lives of taking the wife to the mall and the kid to soccer practice.
The average age of the buyers of most expensive sports cars (Corvette, Ferrari, Porsche 911) tends to range from the late 40s to the late 50s. For most owners this is the second or third car. People that are in a financial position to pay $65,000 or (much) more for a hobby car tend to be older. Additionally Baby Boomers constitute a large portion of the population and are the most affluent group. Cars like Corvettes and Porsche 911s have huge appeal to Baby Boomers. Many of them have wanted one since they were teenagers and are now in a financial position to purchase one.

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If they build a vette with decent backseats, you will see many vette drivers with "boring" lives too
I doubt they will ever build a Corvette with back seats. Certainly not in the foreseeable future.

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If they build a vette with decent backseats it WONT be a vette anymore
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This...and a 6-pack of Bud will make you very popular with the Gretchen Wilson types at the Walmart:

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Of course that was a joke.

It is good to see you actually had the opportunity to sit in that sport seat, how did it feel?

I was watching the Car and Driver Roundtable Recap video, hearing the editors talking about the new Vette as the focal point of the Detroit show, complained about not allowed to sit in the new Vette with the sport seats, only the regular seats. So they could tell those seats looked great, but could not tell us whether they were nice to sit in.
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Of course that was a joke.

It is good to see you actually had the opportunity to sit in that sport seat, how did it feel?

I was watching the Car and Driver Roundtable Recap video, hearing the editors talking about the new Vette as the focal point of the Detroit show, complained about not allowed to sit in the new Vette with the sport seats, only the regular seats. So they could tell those seats looked great, but could not tell us whether they were nice to sit in.
I found the interior to be a pleasant environment and the seats to be comfortable. Of course it is very different to sit in a stationary car and to drive it but my impression was very favorable. The interior quality was very good (and so was the interior of the 1953 car that was on display). It seemed as the Corvette progressed the interior got cheaper but it appears that they have corrected that,
Since it was a private, invitation only, event the crowd was manageable and everyone got to bet a good look at the cars. They did not allow us to sit in the classics that were on display. My favorites were the 1953, a virtually identical 1954 and a 1965 396 Sting Ray Coupe.

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Yes. 911 too.
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I think the first produced Corvette is owned by Kerbeck and is on display at their Chevy dealership in Atlantic City, NJ. If I'm not mistaken. Corvette #2 was owned by Skip Miller of the Carlisle Fairgrounds in Calisle, PA. Skip passed away a few years ago and the family now owns it. I've seen it on display at the Corvettes at Carlisle show.

The rear of the C7 is starting to grow on me. Like someone previously mentioned, the rear of the C6 looked unfinished. I didn't particularly like it either. But, Corvettes have always had round tail lights, and these that look like the Camaro, are drawing much criticism from the long term Corvette community. (just like when GM did away with the hideaway head lights in the C6 for European style fixed head lights.)

The interior layout really looks similar to what was in my ZO6 except for the two toned color scheme and the updated displays. The seats look more bolstered which is a good thing. To drive spririted around corners, I would have to lock the seatbelt to keep from sliding out of my seat because there was very little in the way of seat bolsters. A GM exec told me at a show that I attended a couple of years ago, that GM did not provide more aggressive bolsters because many of their older customers could not fit properly (older broader guys). They also tried to save weight and some money by not offering electric adjustable seat bolsters.

GM also needs to keep their cost down so people can afford to buy Corvettes. There is a monster performance car under the body shell. Most Corvette owners only care about how the car performs, as opposed to all of the creature comforts. The more GM adds to the Corvette, the higher the price tag. The C6 ZO6 was already pushing $100,000.

I read one guys post in the Corvette Forum where he wanted (on top of what the C7 already has) extended leather interior, alcantera and carbon fiber accents, 475 HP, a better GPS system, and better looking wheels - all for under $55,000. Good Luck! Some people have no idea of value.

PS: there are extra storage bins under the rear cargo space carpet. The Corvette coupe has always had a lot of rear storage space. Not so much for the convertible.
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I'm not sure what fits in the back seats of the 911. So far, I did stow my golf bag there.
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The 1953 Corvette that was on display last night was owned by Kerbeck,

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Oh, so who owns #1? I always thought it was Kerbeck?

This is what I was thinking regarding Kerbeck's Corvette. I'm not sure which car he had at your event, but he owns the first experimental Corvette that started it's build in 1951, which GM then based the Corvette for sale to the public in 1953.

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Wasn't the original corvette concept was designed by Pininfarina?
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Oh, so who owns #1? I always thought it was Kerbeck?

This is what I was thinking regarding Kerbeck's Corvette. I'm not sure which car he had at your event, but he owns the first experimental Corvette that started it's build in 1951, which GM then based the Corvette for sale to the public in 1953.

http://www.kerbeck.com/kerbeck/kerbe...ldest_corvette
This appears to be the same car. We were told it was the third one built and that it was the one that had been displayed at the Waldorf Astoria. According to the link above it (EX122) is actually the prototype (i.e. the first one built).





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This interior looks like it was meant to appeal to people who long for having Knight Rider return to network tv.

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Didnt the knight rider TV show use a Firebird and not a Corvette. I think some of the Bat mobiles were Corvettes.
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The rear of the C7 is starting to grow on me.

Struck me right away....j'know, compared to Audi, BMW's rear lights look like a Buick.

Not fer nuthin', but the face of Audi's just butt ugly. Tail lamps are their saving grace, I guess. Interesting to see Corvette's hooked in to that - good impressions.

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I'm not sure what fits in the back seats of the 911. So far, I did stow my golf bag there.

Heh heh....test drove one such, one 6'4" kid passenger; other stuffed/folded/ spindled into the rear 'seat.'

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I wouldn't expect to many Corvette fans on a BMW site but you have to admit they do some things very well. My brand new F30 is out in the driveway and my C5 6 speed convertible is safely tucked in the garage. There's nothing that makes me happier then taking the Vette out on a cool day and power shifting through a few gears, counter steering a little to keep it going straight while I'm destroying the rear tires. The little chain saw engine in my BMW won't do that for me but its much better then the Vette in many different ways and i bought it for a different purpose. Definitely two different animals and I love them both for what they are.
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