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Old 01-20-2013, 05:43 PM
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Anyway Shawn, from another thread i saw that you did change the sport auto shifter. Does changing the shifter alone affect the way how the transmission shifts? Or is it just the s1 - s7 coding that affect the gear changes?
I am really interested on doing the paddle shift retrofit as well. And do you have any idea on how doable it is to do that? Is it as simple as running cables from the shifter to the paddles on the steering or is it something much more complicated involved?

Ps: Sat shifters and sport steering wih paddles are not my concern anymore.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:44 AM
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Actually, that code was discovered by my Korean brother, mongsiri. All credit goes to him.

D1-D8 to go along with S1-S7 would be nice, but I did not see anything in EGS for that. Although since my car seldom operates in that girly mode, I admittedly did not give searching for that code its due diligence.
Hello Shawn,

Your posts on Bimmerfest.com and Bwmcoding.com are always very helpfule to me..
For example, http://www.bmwcoding.com/showthread....h-to-icm/page2

I'm the member of BMW F serise club in Korea and I firstly introduced e-sys coding to F club.

I found this this value for S1~8 display on 20. July, 2011
http://cafe.naver.com/5series/67991 (Sorry, You need registration to read the posting in Korea)

I think, 'mongsiri' is one of F club member.

Thank you again!!

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Old 02-18-2013, 06:54 AM
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Hello Shawn,

Your posts on Bimmerfest.com and Bwmcoding.com are always very helpfule to me..
For example, http://www.bmwcoding.com/showthread....h-to-icm/page2

I'm the member of BMW F serise club in Korea and I firstly introduced e-sys coding to F club.

I found this this value for S1~8 display on 20. July, 2011
http://cafe.naver.com/5series/67991 (Sorry, You need registration to read the posting in Korea)

I think, 'mongsiri' is one of F club member.

Thank you again!!
Well tell mongsiri I said hello. I haven't heard anything from him in a while.

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Old 02-21-2013, 05:04 AM
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Only Sportschalter_alt needed on my 520d 4/2011 to make it work. I don't have sports trans nor M options..cool find.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:20 PM
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Well, that is rather interesting. On my M-Sport, Sportschalter by default was nicht_aktiv, and when I changed it to aktiv, it did nothing. I changed it back to nicht_akt, and then changed Sportschalter_alt to aktiv, and got S1-S7. So, Sportschalter by itself did nothing, and Sportschalter_alt by itself gave me S1-S7.

I thought maybe then based on what you experienced that Sportschalter got it to the Sport / M-Sport equivalent, then Sportschalter_alt brought it to SAT. The problem with that though is I would have expected Sportschalter to default to aktiv on cars with Sport / M-Sport, but that isn't the case. So, this doesn't make much sense.

We need to test a few more non Sport Cars and Sport / M-Sport cars, and see if this behavior is at least consistent, where both are needed for non Sport, and only Sportschalter_alt is needed for Sport / M-Sport cars.
I changed only one settings on my F30 328i.
I have only automatic 205 in gearbox.
EGS / 3000 Applikation
Sportschalter_alt = nicht_aktiv
Sportschalter = aktiv
Now it (S1-S7) works, but I do not know whether it's right or not?
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:31 PM
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I changed only one settings on my F30 328i.
I have only automatic 205 in gearbox.
EGS / 3000 Applikation
Sportschalter_alt = nicht_aktiv
Sportschalter = aktiv
Now it (S1-S7) works, but I do not know whether it's right or not?
If it is working, it is right. Some have to change only one, and other have to change both.
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:24 PM
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If it is working, it is right. Some have to change only one, and other have to change both.
Thanks a lot Shawn
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:41 AM
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code an 2013 535i today, had to change both Sportschalter_alt and Sportschalter to aktiv / Werte=01
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I checked my '12 M sport and both of these are enabled by default. I do have the SAT option w/ the paddle shifters. Not sure if that helps w/ whether to activate both or not.
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:03 PM
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To anyone who is interested in coding this on a F30 (I have a sport line non M), the result sort of changes how sports mode is entered and how it behaves; I have modified as

Sportschalter_alt = nicht_aktiv
Sportschalter = aktiv

or both active and I could not tell any difference, with just sportschalter active you will be able to see S1-7. Before the modification, with both not active, DS is displayed in sports mode and if you tab the control lever left or return it to normal position, sports mode or comfortable mode is selected automatically. After the coding, with either with just Sportschalter active or both active, taping the lever to the left or normal position does not automatically select sport mode or comfort mode, instead, it will active the S1-7 display and put transmission (and transmission only) in sports mode. And after you manually select the mode through buttons to the left of the lever, the rest of the car goes into sport mode. (steering, accelerator etc. ) Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Old 07-09-2013, 02:34 PM
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So, I've been meaning to retrofit paddles to my car (F20 118i with 205 8AT), and although I haven't purchased the new steering wheel just yet, I wanted to get the coding part done already, as I thought that would get me at least the 2TB behavior of the gearbox (i.e. faster shifting, kickdown override and no auto upshift at the rev limiter on manual mode when in sport+ or DTC off, and S1-S7 display).

So I changed my car's VO (205 to 2TB) and coded the entire SVT tree and curiously I got none of the things I was expecting! Gearbox still behaves exactly like before - similar shifting, still has kickdown and auto upshift in manual mode on sport+ or DTC off, and only displays DS instead of S1-S7.

I thought that maybe the VO coding didn't stick, so I tried doing it again, and the gearbox remained the same. So I went on checking individual parameters to see wether or not coding had done any alterations.

So as of now, my car's VO says 2TB, under ICM, IcmKod_B_S2TBA is now verbaut, IcmKod_B_S205A is now nicht_verbaut, so that's what it's supposed to be. Under EGS, Sportschalter_alt AND Sportschalter were now set to aktiv / Werte=01, so they're right as well.

Under Kombi, however, SPA_Sport_Enable and SPA_Enable were set to nicht_aktiv. So I tried changing them to aktiv, but all that did was remove the gear indicator altogether! The cluster would no longer show anything where the gear indicator was supposed to be (i.e. not even D, N, R, DS or M1-M8). So I had to change them back to nicht_aktiv.

I don't know what else to look for... Anyway, does anyone have a clue on what I might be doing wrong? It would be nice at least to be able to have the car show S1-S7 instead of DS.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:31 PM
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So, I've been meaning to retrofit paddles to my car (F20 118i with 205 8AT), and although I haven't purchased the new steering wheel just yet, I wanted to get the coding part done already, as I thought that would get me at least the 2TB behavior of the gearbox (i.e. faster shifting, kickdown override and no auto upshift at the rev limiter on manual mode when in sport+ or DTC off, and S1-S7 display).

So I changed my car's VO (205 to 2TB) and coded the entire SVT tree and curiously I got none of the things I was expecting! Gearbox still behaves exactly like before - similar shifting, still has kickdown and auto upshift in manual mode on sport+ or DTC off, and only displays DS instead of S1-S7.

I thought that maybe the VO coding didn't stick, so I tried doing it again, and the gearbox remained the same. So I went on checking individual parameters to see wether or not coding had done any alterations.

So as of now, my car's VO says 2TB, under ICM, IcmKod_B_S2TBA is now verbaut, IcmKod_B_S205A is now nicht_verbaut, so that's what it's supposed to be. Under EGS, Sportschalter_alt AND Sportschalter were now set to aktiv / Werte=01, so they're right as well.

Under Kombi, however, SPA_Sport_Enable and SPA_Enable were set to nicht_aktiv. So I tried changing them to aktiv, but all that did was remove the gear indicator altogether! The cluster would no longer show anything where the gear indicator was supposed to be (i.e. not even D, N, R, DS or M1-M8). So I had to change them back to nicht_aktiv.

I don't know what else to look for... Anyway, does anyone have a clue on what I might be doing wrong? It would be nice at least to be able to have the car show S1-S7 instead of DS.
Makes no sense...
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Old 07-10-2013, 06:14 AM
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So, I've been meaning to retrofit paddles to my car (F20 118i with 205 8AT), and although I haven't purchased the new steering wheel just yet, I wanted to get the coding part done already, as I thought that would get me at least the 2TB behavior of the gearbox (i.e. faster shifting, kickdown override and no auto upshift at the rev limiter on manual mode when in sport+ or DTC off, and S1-S7 display).

So I changed my car's VO (205 to 2TB) and coded the entire SVT tree and curiously I got none of the things I was expecting! Gearbox still behaves exactly like before - similar shifting, still has kickdown and auto upshift in manual mode on sport+ or DTC off, and only displays DS instead of S1-S7.

I thought that maybe the VO coding didn't stick, so I tried doing it again, and the gearbox remained the same. So I went on checking individual parameters to see wether or not coding had done any alterations.

So as of now, my car's VO says 2TB, under ICM, IcmKod_B_S2TBA is now verbaut, IcmKod_B_S205A is now nicht_verbaut, so that's what it's supposed to be. Under EGS, Sportschalter_alt AND Sportschalter were now set to aktiv / Werte=01, so they're right as well.

Under Kombi, however, SPA_Sport_Enable and SPA_Enable were set to nicht_aktiv. So I tried changing them to aktiv, but all that did was remove the gear indicator altogether! The cluster would no longer show anything where the gear indicator was supposed to be (i.e. not even D, N, R, DS or M1-M8). So I had to change them back to nicht_aktiv.

I don't know what else to look for... Anyway, does anyone have a clue on what I might be doing wrong? It would be nice at least to be able to have the car show S1-S7 instead of DS.
Gearbox in your car hasn't 2TB option in accordance with BMW configurator. I think that is not possible on your auto.

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Old 07-10-2013, 08:10 AM
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Gearbox in your car hasn't 2TB option in accordance with BMW configurator. I think that is not possible on your auto.
I though about that, but isn't it weird that my car accepts VO coding to change 205 to 2TB without any errors?
Moreover, people have been able to retrofit paddles to the f20, and as far as I know, it isn't possible to get paddles with the regular 205 auto, and they only work if you alter the VO to 2TB.
And hardware-wise, the gearbox is the same, and the VO coding actually did alter some parameters...
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Old 07-10-2013, 09:58 AM
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I though about that, but isn't it weird that my car accepts VO coding to change 205 to 2TB without any errors?
Moreover, people have been able to retrofit paddles to the f20, and as far as I know, it isn't possible to get paddles with the regular 205 auto, and they only work if you alter the VO to 2TB.
And hardware-wise, the gearbox is the same, and the VO coding actually did alter some parameters...
You have too much faith in E-Sys VO Editor and Calculate FP. It will allow invalid option codes and calculate FP with no problem, and let you VO Code the car making the FDL changes, albeit all for naught.

I tested it once on my F10, and added 552 LED Headlights from the 6 Series, and FP would calculate, even though 552 is not available on the 5 series chassis. More surprising though, it allowed 552 LED Headlights simultaneously with 522 Xenon Headlights, even though a car could have only one or the other.

Alex68 made a good point that I did not catch last night. You have a F20 118i. Option 2TB is not allowed for 118i and 120d, only 135i and 135d. So, adding it and coding it does nothing.

As for people retrofitting paddles, this is possible as option 2XA Paddle Shift Wheels are available with 205 Transmission, or for 135i and 135d, 7XA as an option:

2XA: Sport Steering Wheel with paddles
7XA: M Steering Wheel with paddles

So, you can have Paddle Shifters without SAT.
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Makes no sense...
I think this is an N13 engine issue as mine...non of models with N13 are not allowed with 2TB....
I changed both shalter options(didn't code 2TB to FA)....I've got M1-M8 nothing else has happened.

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I couldn't get this to work with a couple combinations

Default on my F07 2013 was

Sportschalter_alt= nicht_atv / Werte=00
Sportschalter= nicht_atv / Werte=00

I tried
Sportschalter_alt= aktiv / Werte=01
Sportschalter= nicht_atv / Werte=00

Sportschalter_alt= anicht_atv / Werte=00
Sportschalter= aktiv / Werte=01

and

Sportschalter_alt= aktiv / Werte=01
Sportschalter= aktiv / Werte=01

No joy.
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I am having the same issues as rpagianotto. Having done everything. Appreciate more inputs. Thanks. Mine is the 8 speed auto 116.

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So, I've been meaning to retrofit paddles to my car (F20 118i with 205 8AT), and although I haven't purchased the new steering wheel just yet, I wanted to get the coding part done already, as I thought that would get me at least the 2TB behavior of the gearbox (i.e. faster shifting, kickdown override and no auto upshift at the rev limiter on manual mode when in sport+ or DTC off, and S1-S7 display).

So I changed my car's VO (205 to 2TB) and coded the entire SVT tree and curiously I got none of the things I was expecting! Gearbox still behaves exactly like before - similar shifting, still has kickdown and auto upshift in manual mode on sport+ or DTC off, and only displays DS instead of S1-S7.

I thought that maybe the VO coding didn't stick, so I tried doing it again, and the gearbox remained the same. So I went on checking individual parameters to see wether or not coding had done any alterations.

So as of now, my car's VO says 2TB, under ICM, IcmKod_B_S2TBA is now verbaut, IcmKod_B_S205A is now nicht_verbaut, so that's what it's supposed to be. Under EGS, Sportschalter_alt AND Sportschalter were now set to aktiv / Werte=01, so they're right as well.

Under Kombi, however, SPA_Sport_Enable and SPA_Enable were set to nicht_aktiv. So I tried changing them to aktiv, but all that did was remove the gear indicator altogether! The cluster would no longer show anything where the gear indicator was supposed to be (i.e. not even D, N, R, DS or M1-M8). So I had to change them back to nicht_aktiv.

I don't know what else to look for... Anyway, does anyone have a clue on what I might be doing wrong? It would be nice at least to be able to have the car show S1-S7 instead of DS.
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Is FEM_BODY => PADDLES_VERBAUT = aktiv set?
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I don't have paddles, just want to turn on SAT and DS display. Anyway I will try it out later and feedback. Thanks.
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Just checked. FEM_BODY => PADDLES_VERBAUT is aktiv set. no joy.
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Instead of 2TB, try using 2XA, Sport leath.s.wheel+shift padd.+multif., and VO Code all modules in SVT except DME / DDE.
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to turn on SAT? ok will try.
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Yes, give it a try.
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Hi Shawn, I tried 2XA, when Calculate FP there is an error.Will not go through.
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