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The sixth generation 3 series, chassis code F30. 2013 model year 328i and 335i sedans now in production. Read the F30 frequently asked question thread for all your basic question and dive into all the details in the ultimate F30 information thread.

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Old 01-20-2013, 07:30 PM
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Except that there is no 328d on the international site (or anywhere in the world for that matter)...

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Except that there is no 328d on the international site (or anywhere in the world for that matter)...
It may have been confusion between marketing and the site content admins, or just an overzealous website admin, but I'm sure it was there when I wrote my reply as I used the "Compare" widget @ the bottom to compare them.
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Looks like it will be badged as a 328d. Makes little sense to me but I'd seriously consider one for my next car.
Also available in xDrive sedan or wagon starting in July.
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Looks like it will be badged as a 328d. Makes little sense to me but I'd seriously consider one for my next car.
Also available in xDrive sedan or wagon starting in July.
D, where's the source? What about F10?
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Looks like it will be badged as a 328d. Makes little sense to me but I'd seriously consider one for my next car.
Also available in xDrive sedan or wagon starting in July.
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D, where's the source? What about F10?
D, my bad. I just seen Jon's posting. I'm getting 535 d . YES !
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Diesels. Diesels. Hurray for the Diesels. NOT!

They're the next "big thing" in the U.S., right? Yeah, just like soccer was, despite the hoopla and Beckham. I've been hearing this for the last 30 years, people. "Oh but you don't have to warm 'em up anymore. They're not slow anymore. They're not noisy, or smokey anymore. They have incredible torque. They get great mileage". Blah. Blah. Blah. It ain't gonna happen. The U.S. is not Europe. We don't want small cars, Smart cars, or diesels. Got it?!
Be thankful you pay half what we do for fuel in the UK!
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Old 02-04-2013, 07:25 PM
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Be thankful you pay half what we do for fuel in the UK!
Actually, we pay the same for the FUEL. You pay more in taxes. That's your choice, which you could change if you really felt the need, by electing different MPs.
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Show me the main party that had it in their election campaign to halve (or even mention any sort of reduction) the price of fuel
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Just pay the taxes. You have nice roads and infrastructure to thank for it. You get what you pay for.

The roads and bridges in the US are all crumbling to sh!te because everyone thinks it's their god-given right to drive on them but no one wants to pay taxes to pay for them.
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328d confirmed for the US market - http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=674043

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328d confirmed for the US market - http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=674043

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Thanks
Where is the engine info you said you'd have for us last week?

Thanks for any info.
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Where is the engine info you said you'd have for us last week?

Thanks for any info.
What info are you looking for again? I think most of what I was talking about is in the EOP/SOP doc Jon posted.

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What info are you looking for again? I think most of what I was talking about is in the EOP/SOP doc Jon posted.

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The diesel bound for the US is a new engine so European models will not directly correlate.

I got some good inside info about the Diesel's coming later this week.

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Anything specific on the engines, or did I misunderstand?
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I knew we'd have the general details from the SOP dates. Engine specifics won't be released until closer to the NY auto show.

Sorry if I was misleading.

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OK- thanks for the clarification.
So what did you mean by "new engine"? Power output shared last July indicates the N47D20 will be used. Why do you conclude it will be new?

Thanks again
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Old 02-05-2013, 03:00 PM
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I was referencing the 3.0, which I was expecting to make it into the 3er - http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...ghlight=diesel

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I was referencing the 3.0, which I was expecting to make it into the 3er - http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...ghlight=diesel

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Understood.
So now that they are clearly bringing over only the 4 cylinder d for the 3er, do you have any reason to believe the engine will NOT be the same as the one in the 320d?
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No, I think it will be the same one with tweaks for US emissions.

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No, I think it will be the same one with tweaks for US emissions.

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The 320d with the blue performance (urea injection) option meets Euro 6 standards, which are very close to our current US emission standards. I don't see it needing any additional tweaks. At least I really hope so.

On the other hand they did extensive redesign on the engine used in the 335d and x5d for the US market (not emissions, but more like NVH tweaks) so who really knows.
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Oh, yeah? Like ... July? And when is BMWNA planning on telling us those things? Together with full specs?

You know what? Wait is over for me. I already budgeted and I am buying Golf TDI this June. To add to Jetta TDI I already have.

What happens to E92? It will stay in a third-car-limbo for some time. I heard there will be some awesome deals to be had on used Caymans come this fall. It might come to be a BMW-less garage in my household again. I won't bother you with sentimental stories, but believe me when I tell you that, if they would give me exactly what I want, I would have two BMWs in garage.

So, back to that old saying "Idiots with money buy yachts, rich people buy Congressman."

BMWNA seem to be short-sighted idiot with a lot of money to burn.
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Oh, yeah? Like ... July? And when is BMWNA planning on telling us those things? Together with full specs?
End of March.

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Given the relative success of the X5d, I don't understand why there is not a X3d yet.
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Given the relative success of the X5d, I don't understand why there is not a X3d yet.
Maybe something to do with the LCI that is coming?

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Been reading in a lot of places the engine is more likely to be the twin-turbo four-cylinder used in cars like the 125d turned 'blue' (and maybe more boost?) and not engine from the the 320d. More than bummed we won't get a performance diesel like the 335d, but 218hp (perhaps stepped up a little more too) is better than 184hp.

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Been reading in a lot of places the engine is more likely to be the twin-turbo four-cylinder used in cars like the 125d turned 'blue' (and maybe more boost?) and not engine from the the 320d. More than bummed we won't get a performance diesel like the 335d, but 218hp (perhaps stepped up a little more too) is better than 184hp.
twinpower turbo is not twin turbo.

Based on the info from BMW, it is the engine from the 320d.
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