Welcome to Bimmerfest -- The #1 Online Community for BMW related information! Please enjoy the discussion forums below and share your experiences with the 200,000 current, new and past BMW owners. The forums are broken out by car model and into other special interest sections such as BMW European Delivery and a special forum to voice your questions to the many BMW dealers on the site to assist our members!

Please follow the links below to help get you started!

Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 3 Series / 4 Series > E46 (1999 - 2006)

E46 (1999 - 2006)
The fourth generation 3 Series (E46 chassis) was introduced in 1999 and set the standard for engineering and performance during it's years of production including being named to Car & Driver's 10 best list every one of those years! ! -- View the E46 Wiki

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-25-2013, 05:36 AM
dredreson dredreson is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: South Jersey
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 96
Mein Auto: 2000 BMW 323i
How do these prices sound to you?

2000 bmw 323i

PARTS
Fan clutch $300
Water Pump $99
Belt $50

LABOR
2 1/2 HRS $230


Sent from my SPH-D710 using Bimmer App
Reply With Quote
Ads by Google
  #2  
Old 01-25-2013, 06:06 AM
vandyboy vandyboy is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Nashville, TN metro area
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 297
Mein Auto: 01 325i automatikgetriebe
Prices seem high - the mark-up must be enormous, unless they are getting parts from the dealer. The OEM fan clutch and OEM belt are less than half your listed prices on Pelican Parts. And Pelican has two good WPs (Graf or Saleri) for $44 to $55.

The labor rate of $92.00 per hour is about average for a good indy garage. See if they will let you bring your own parts and start shopping around on the sites recommended on this board.

Last edited by vandyboy; 01-25-2013 at 06:07 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-25-2013, 09:25 AM
halltristan's Avatar
halltristan halltristan is offline
Bimmer Enthusiast
Location: Tennessee
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 652
Mein Auto: 325i and X3
Very high prices. It's standard for a shop to mark up parts by 30% but not by 100%. Every part you have listed you can find for half price online and auto part stores.

And, at least in my area, labor is usually 60 an hour.
__________________

Member No. 470379

Last edited by halltristan; 01-25-2013 at 09:28 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-25-2013, 09:43 AM
MalibuMafiaV's Avatar
MalibuMafiaV MalibuMafiaV is offline
L4P
Location: Malibu, CA
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 11,511
Send a message via AIM to MalibuMafiaV
Mein Auto: E60 M5 & Stage 3 Audi S4
Quote:
Originally Posted by halltristan View Post
Very high prices. It's standard for a shop to mark up parts by 30% but not by 100%. Every part you have listed you can find for half price online and auto part stores.

And, at least in my area, labor is usually 60 an hour.
Wow that's awesome labor charges. Here in cali my good price is $85 an hour. If I didn't know the owner of the shop it would be $115. And at my Masi shop it's $135 an hour.
__________________
http://www.luxury4play.com
BMW 2006 M5 - REALLY LOUD
Audi S4 2000 Stage 3 - Dat turbo spool
BMW 2000 3-series - Supercharged Because race car SOLD
Maserati 2004 M128 GT - HREs/tint/straight piped SOLD
BMW 2006 M3 - stock - SOLD
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-25-2013, 09:52 AM
dredreson dredreson is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: South Jersey
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 96
Mein Auto: 2000 BMW 323i
I knew I smelled a pig , smh. Thanks guys.

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Bimmer App
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-25-2013, 10:28 AM
Scottji's Avatar
Scottji Scottji is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: California
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 612
Mein Auto: 2004 325i
$95 is the going labor rate in so-cal. But it's not so much the rate to me as it is the time quoted. Don't think that job should take 2.5 hrs.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-25-2013, 10:42 AM
TannerT TannerT is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Columbia, Missouri
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 966
Mein Auto: 03 330ci 3pdl 89 325i
Ohhh that must me the gold plated fan clutch and carbon fiber belt. Very nice peices

Sent from my PantechP9060 using Bimmer App
__________________
sFormula SAE "Speed is Sexy"
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-25-2013, 11:10 AM
christopherr117 christopherr117 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: South Carolina/ Providence, RI
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 141
Mein Auto: 323Ci E46
Make sure that the fan clutch they install is OEM. I had mine replaced last year on my 323 with an aftermarket one that was "up to spec" according to the manufacturer of the part and the distributer of the shop that I went to. The clutch allowed for wobble and resulted in flying fan blades that took out my expansion tank, radiator, hood, and obviously obliterated the fan at the cost of about $1k to fix. just a lil heads up.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-25-2013, 11:24 AM
dredreson dredreson is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: South Jersey
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 96
Mein Auto: 2000 BMW 323i
Ok...now Im nervous about ordering my own parts.

Can someone point me to the correct parts? I see on pelican parts that they have two types of water pumps, one with a metal impeller and another with 'composite' impeller ..what does this mean...and which is the best for my vehicle?

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Bimmer App
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-25-2013, 11:29 AM
SJBimmer's Avatar
SJBimmer SJBimmer is offline
Living Life At The Beach
Location: In This Place
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 3,810
Mein Auto: 2004 325 Convertible
Order from here, and call Max if you have any questions. He is a site sponsor, has great prices, and offers free shipping on orders over $45. Many here use him.

http://www.oembimmerparts.com/BMW_E4...rts_s/1863.htm
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-25-2013, 11:34 AM
jhurless jhurless is offline
Registered User
Location: Los Angeles
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 14
Mein Auto: E36
Other than the fan clutch, that quote is on the more reasonable side of BMW quotes. The labor rate is about right, time is correct. The problem I see is that the shop is quoting a water pump and no other cooling system components. Typically with E46 if the water pump has failed, chances are the tank, hoses and t-stat are about toast too. This shop doesn't sound like a BMW specialty shop, and their labor rate backs that assumption.

My advice would be to take it to a good local Bimmer shop and get another diagnosis there. And to comment on something mentioned above, I do not recommend you try to bring your own parts. That's like bringing your own steak to a restaurant. Most shops will be insulted, just so you know.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-25-2013, 11:43 AM
Scottji's Avatar
Scottji Scottji is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: California
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 612
Mein Auto: 2004 325i
Quote:
Originally Posted by jhurless View Post
The problem I see is that the shop is quoting a water pump and no other cooling system components. Typically with E46 if the water pump has failed, chances are the tank, hoses and t-stat are about toast too. This shop doesn't sound like a BMW specialty shop, and their labor rate backs that assumption.

My advice would be to take it to a good local Bimmer shop and get another diagnosis there. And to comment on something mentioned above, I do not recommend you try to bring your own parts. That's like bringing your own steak to a restaurant. Most shops will be insulted, just so you know.
I hate to disagree, but I'm going to. I think most mechanics won't do a complete overhaul due to one part failing, unless the customer specifically asks for it. The "DIY" way of doing things is that we'd might as well just do it while we're there. Most mechanics don't do it this way -- they just fix the part that's broken.

Also, my indy has no problem with BYOP (bring your own parts) so long as they're reputable.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-25-2013, 11:46 AM
Solidjake's Avatar
Solidjake Solidjake is offline
The one and only
Location: NYC
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 17,674
Mein Auto: 2002 330i
Clutch costs $90 for Sachs which is OEM

http://www.autohausaz.com/search/pro...2@Fan%20Clutch

Pump is $55 OEM Saleri

http://www.autohausaz.com/search/pro...8@Water%20Pump


Belts cost $27 for both

http://www.autohausaz.com/search/pro...20Drive%20Belt


Total is $172 for parts.



Belts and clutch you can DIY with very simple tools.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-25-2013, 12:16 PM
Coochie_Bandit's Avatar
Coochie_Bandit Coochie_Bandit is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Bronx NY
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 172
Mein Auto: 540
M k
K
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-25-2013, 12:17 PM
Solidjake's Avatar
Solidjake Solidjake is offline
The one and only
Location: NYC
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 17,674
Mein Auto: 2002 330i
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coochie_Bandit View Post
M k
K
? huh
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 01-25-2013, 12:56 PM
dredreson dredreson is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: South Jersey
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 96
Mein Auto: 2000 BMW 323i
There's two belts?

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Bimmer App
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 01-25-2013, 01:04 PM
Scottji's Avatar
Scottji Scottji is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: California
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 612
Mein Auto: 2004 325i
Quote:
Originally Posted by dredreson View Post
There's two belts?

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Bimmer App
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 01-25-2013, 01:06 PM
Scottji's Avatar
Scottji Scottji is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: California
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 612
Mein Auto: 2004 325i
Sorry, that was rude.

You have a longer main accessory belt that runs your water pump, power steering, alternator, etc., and a belt that sits in front of that which powers your A/C compressor.



With an e-50 torx or big hex socket and breaker bar, takes a few seconds to change (once the fan is out of the way).

Last edited by Scottji; 01-25-2013 at 01:08 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 01-25-2013, 01:34 PM
dredreson dredreson is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: South Jersey
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 96
Mein Auto: 2000 BMW 323i
Lol...I can admit that I don't know **** about cars. I can do your Calculus, Physics and Organic Chemistry homework though.

My mechanic claims that my failed fan clutch caused my belt to break. Is this possible?

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Bimmer App
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 01-25-2013, 02:09 PM
SJBimmer's Avatar
SJBimmer SJBimmer is offline
Living Life At The Beach
Location: In This Place
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 3,810
Mein Auto: 2004 325 Convertible
Quote:
Originally Posted by dredreson View Post
Lol...I can admit that I don't know **** about cars. I can do your Calculus, Physics and Organic Chemistry homework though.

My mechanic claims that my failed fan clutch caused my belt to break. Is this possible?

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Bimmer App
It is possible. Where in South Jersey are you? If you are far enough South I may be able to recommend someone.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 01-25-2013, 02:10 PM
jhurless jhurless is offline
Registered User
Location: Los Angeles
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 14
Mein Auto: E36
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scottji View Post
I hate to disagree, but I'm going to. I think most mechanics won't do a complete overhaul due to one part failing, unless the customer specifically asks for it. The "DIY" way of doing things is that we'd might as well just do it while we're there. Most mechanics don't do it this way -- they just fix the part that's broken.

Also, my indy has no problem with BYOP (bring your own parts) so long as they're reputable.
Which is why I suggested a specialty shop, because they would know that E46 BMWs require a cooling system upgrade around 100k miles consisting of the tank, hoses, water pump and tstat. Otherwise you fix one part and come back two weeks later to fix another.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 01-25-2013, 02:10 PM
dredreson dredreson is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: South Jersey
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 96
Mein Auto: 2000 BMW 323i
Cherry Hill area.

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Bimmer App
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 01-25-2013, 02:14 PM
SJBimmer's Avatar
SJBimmer SJBimmer is offline
Living Life At The Beach
Location: In This Place
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 3,810
Mein Auto: 2004 325 Convertible
Quote:
Originally Posted by dredreson View Post
Cherry Hill area.

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Bimmer App
Too far for you to travel unfortunately. I am in the Stone Harbor, Avalon area. Unless you want to take a road trip.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 01-25-2013, 08:12 PM
jhurless jhurless is offline
Registered User
Location: Los Angeles
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 14
Mein Auto: E36
Quote:
Originally Posted by dredreson View Post
Lol...I can admit that I don't know **** about cars. I can do your Calculus, Physics and Organic Chemistry homework though.

My mechanic claims that my failed fan clutch caused my belt to break. Is this possible?

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Bimmer App
It is unlikely that it was the fan clutch. If your water pump seized, it would cause the belt to rub against a non-rotating pulley and burn up. If the water pump bearing blew out, it could cause the pulley to throw the belt. While it is possible the fan clutch is bad, that is not the most likely cause of your problem.

Last edited by jhurless; 01-25-2013 at 08:14 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 02-02-2013, 10:14 AM
dredreson dredreson is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: South Jersey
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 96
Mein Auto: 2000 BMW 323i
Quote:
Originally Posted by Solidjake View Post
Clutch costs $90 for Sachs which is OEM

http://www.autohausaz.com/search/pro...2@Fan%20Clutch

Pump is $55 OEM Saleri

http://www.autohausaz.com/search/pro...8@Water%20Pump


Belts cost $27 for both

http://www.autohausaz.com/search/pro...20Drive%20Belt


Total is $172 for parts.



Belts and clutch you can DIY with very simple tools.
Parts took forever to come in from autohausAZ.com, I should have had it expedited. Sheesh. I'm taking the parts to my mechanic on Monday, I hope this guy doesn't try to say that the parts are wrong.

2000 BMW 323i, these are definitely the correct parts, right?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 3 Series / 4 Series > E46 (1999 - 2006)
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:50 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001-2011 performanceIX, Inc. All Rights Reserved .: guidelines .:. privacy .:. terms