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The sixth generation 3 series, chassis code F30. 2013 model year 328i and 335i sedans now in production. Read the F30 frequently asked question thread for all your basic question and dive into all the details in the ultimate F30 information thread.

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Old 01-26-2013, 12:35 PM
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These are not good times (in NA) for those of us that like and find wagons useful. I know that I'm going to be checking the F31 out. I don't like the compromise in handling that is imposed by vehicles with increased ride height. Likewise for moving junk on an off the roof, a lower roofline really helps. However I'd probably go for the new allroad if it had the 3.0 liter supercharged engine rather than the current two-banger... but that's not likely to happen here as Audi would probably only manage to sell a handful of them.
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:12 PM
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The Canadian brochure shows Modern Line, sunroof, leather, heated seats, zenon, etc. as standard. If those features are priced as per the 2013 F30, this is going to be one expensive vehicle. It seems odd to lard up a model people choose for its utility, but I guess BMW knows what it's doing. I just want a diesel, AWD wagon that's fun to drive.
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Old 01-26-2013, 09:28 PM
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Probably by even more given the price difference.
And you can get the X1 in '35' -guise.

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Old 01-27-2013, 02:20 PM
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And you can get the X1 in '35' -guise.
And it will drive much better than an F31 thanks to th F31 EPS.
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Old 01-27-2013, 02:48 PM
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Totally subjectively, I test drove an X1 with xDrive (thus hydraulic steering) three times and a 328i sedan once, and had a lot more fun in the X1. For some reason the sedan kept lurching on me, and I finished up the test drive with two fingers on the steering wheel, feeling somewhat bored. With both, I missed having a MT, which I suppose puts me amongst those who prefer to feel that we're somehow making the car go when we drive it by pushing on pedals and working hard to turn steering wheels. But if effort and feedback promote alert and engaged driving, that's a good thing. I'm not ready for driverless cars. (What's next xxx-less sex?)

The downside to the X1 is that it's a bit behind the curve on amenities. In particular, the lack of iDrive standard is downright annoying.
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Old 01-27-2013, 04:28 PM
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Totally subjectively, I test drove an X1 with xDrive (thus hydraulic steering) three times and a 328i sedan once, and had a lot more fun in the X1. For some reason the sedan kept lurching on me, and I finished up the test drive with two fingers on the steering wheel, feeling somewhat bored. With both, I missed having a MT, which I suppose puts me amongst those who prefer to feel that we're somehow making the car go when we drive it by pushing on pedals and working hard to turn steering wheels. But if effort and feedback promote alert and engaged driving, that's a good thing. I'm not ready for driverless cars. (What's next xxx-less sex?)

The downside to the X1 is that it's a bit behind the curve on amenities. In particular, the lack of iDrive standard is downright annoying.
Given all the money you can save over the F31, you can add the full set of tech packages to the X1. The main advantage the X1 has IMHO, is is much better looking.
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Old 01-28-2013, 12:34 PM
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I am going to write a check to the first German manufacturer who offers a 4WD diesel wagon here in the US. I just hope it will be BMW.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:41 AM
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Looks great! Still not ready to trade in my 325XIT bot nice to know there are options when i am ready
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:02 AM
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I am going to write a check to the first German manufacturer who offers a 4WD diesel wagon here in the US. I just hope it will be BMW.
Most likely, you'll be able to part with your money:

VIN long WBA3K5C52EF776000
Type code 3K5C
Type 328XD (USA)
Dev. series F31 ()
Line 3
Body type TOUR
Steering LL
Door count 5
Engine N47T
Cubical capacity 2.00
Power 135
Transmision ALLR
Gearbox AUT
Colour GLACIERSILBER METALLIC (A83)
Upholstery SENSATEC 1/DF VENETOBEIGE (KCDF)
Prod. date 2012-11-09

(This is a preproduction test vehicle, but why would they build it if they had no plans to bring them here?)
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:43 PM
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Most likely, you'll be able to part with your money:

VIN long WBA3K5C52EF776000
Type code 3K5C
Type 328XD (USA)
Dev. series F31 ()
Line 3
Body type TOUR
Steering LL
Door count 5
Engine N47T
Cubical capacity 2.00
Power 135
Transmision ALLR
Gearbox AUT
Colour GLACIERSILBER METALLIC (A83)
Upholstery SENSATEC 1/DF VENETOBEIGE (KCDF)
Prod. date 2012-11-09

(This is a preproduction test vehicle, but why would they build it if they had no plans to bring them here?)
Very interesting! I have been trying to decide between the Allroad and the BMW 3 wagon. Well, Diesel + AWD would definitely be a huge plus for me and ease my decision. It looks like I will part with my money as well.
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:04 PM
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RE: those specs that ynguldyn shared...

Is anyone else having trouble believing BMW would sell a F31 in the USofA with a mere 135hp?

edit: or do you suppose that's 135 kW which is 184 bhp? (thanx wikipedia) ....That's more believable to me.

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Old 02-02-2013, 12:02 AM
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:58 PM
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F31 328i xDrive Sports Wagon Pricing: Starting at $42,345

Wagon fans out there! I visited the New England Auto Show in Boston this week. On displayed (but door locked ) was a beautiful red BMW 328i xDrive Sports Wagon with sport line trim. The pricing was displayed next to the car. I have not been able to find the pricing anywhere else.

MSRP $42,345 $ including destination. All the options, including the sport trim (2,600) are extra. See attached picture for details.

BMW F31 3 Series Sport Wagon Line Pricing
  • Luxury Line (ZLL) - $2300
  • Modern Line (ZML) - $2300
  • M Sport Line (ZMM) - $3950
  • Sport Line (ZSL) - $2600

BMW F31 3 Series Sport Wagon Option Pricing
  • Cold weather package (ZCW) - $950
  • Driver assistance package (ZDA) - $1900
  • Driver assistance plus (ZDB) - $700
  • Dynamic handling package (ZDH) - $1000
  • Lighting package (ZLP) - $900
  • Premium package (ZPP) - $2200
  • Roof rails black - $100
  • Sport automatic transmission with paddle shifters - $500
  • Anti-theft alarm system - $400
  • Rear view camera - $400 - included with ZDA
  • Rear manual side window shades - $250
  • Heated front seats - $500 - included with ZCW
  • Park distance control - $750 - included with ZDA
  • Automatic high beams - $250
  • Active cruise control with Stop&Go $2400
  • Navigation system with voice command and BMW Apps - $2150 - included with ZTP
  • Harmon Kardon surround sound system - $875
  • Burl Walnut trim - $500 - included with ZMM
  • Dakota Leather upholstery - $1450
  • Metalic paint - $550

F31 with M-Sport + Climate and a few other option puts it around 50K easily. Thats a lot money for a 4 cylinder car!

Whats interesting is the automatic is listed as an option but the F31 is supposed to be only an auto in the US .... so does the base price (~$42+K) include the auto or not?

Also the Stop & Go is an $2400 option? Is this how it comes on the F30? Doesn't that mean two types of engines? I thought there was "massive" costs in certifying each version of an engine?

Any ideas on when we can learn which options are included in each group/package? hopefully some of the option i want are covered in the packages I want.

How much is the discount on ED?

Looks like Im waiting for the M235i - i know its not the same type of car, but for me its about value and not hitting some price point
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Old 02-04-2013, 07:32 PM
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Did you notice if it had a sunroof standard? Xenon headlights?

That price is a bit over $2k more than the xDrive sedan, right? Does that seem out of line to you?
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Old 02-09-2013, 10:24 AM
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Did you notice if it had a sunroof standard? Xenon headlights?

That price is a bit over $2k more than the xDrive sedan, right? Does that seem out of line to you?
+1, the price premium seems about right considering the added feature content.

the main problems are that the F3x is overpriced to begin with, and that the F31 is only offered in xDrive here. i was keeping my fingers crossed for a RWD diesel touring, so 1 out of 2 is better than nothing... but i think given the choice of RWD or diesel, i would have taken RWD. sigh...
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Old 02-11-2013, 09:15 AM
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I agree the option pricing is wrong. BMW have tended to option the wagon higher by default, justifying the higher starting price, but then lowering some of the options packages. I'd be stunned if Xenon's, sunroof etc. aren't standard as before.
Still sad about all the 'line' business and the lack of M/T. A used E91 or even E61 still seems like my best option much as I'd love to do an ED again, I may be able to find a M/T and the savings will be more than enough for a fancy European vacation.
Since I ordered a 6MT e91 in the fall of 2010, I think this info needs to be clarified a bit. Sunroof was standard, but xenons weren't standard in 2011. At a time in the fall of 2010 they offered a free value package upgrade (which I think if I remember, got a leather interior and power seats). Premium package, Sport package etc were still cost items. Xenons could be ordered a la carte. If I remember correctly there wasn't much difference between included options on the sedan and the touring - there was always an "wagon premium" even back on the e91...and that certainly wasn't because it was optioned better.
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:02 PM
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Although it's always welcoming to see new F31 info, I'm not sure how accurate it is. That option pricing appears to be a copy/paste from the F30 for the most part, which is inconsistent with previous information released saying the F31 would have more standard equipment than the F30. Even this page on the BMW USA site indicates adaptive xenon headlights and LED tails are standard: http://www.bmwusa.com/standard/conte...FVCVDetailId=2
I guess we'll find out soon enough...
Even BMW's Press Release on the 3-series Sports Wagon is having conflicting information on Xenon adaptive headlight:

http://cache.bmwusa.com/Pdf_f8bb0f43...f8f520005.arox

"LED accent lights positioned like eyebrows above the traditional four round headlights with corona rings (if Adaptive Xenon headlights are specified) lend an extra intensity to the classic BMW focused look."
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:14 AM
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If they offered the 35i engine, I'd strongly consider trading in my M3 for it. And, as much as it pains me, I'd even be willing to lose my M/T (it gets tiring not being able to have my wife drive my car ). But, going from the V8 to the I4T is a bit too much of a drop for me.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:20 PM
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Hi Guys,

Bmw 328i xDriveTouring (F31) starting price here in Finland is about 57 000 EUR (around 75 000 USD) with taxes. 1 litre (0,265 gallon) of normal petrol cost here today 1,619 EUR (or 2,16 USD). Having a car and driving with it is very cheap here!
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Old 03-16-2013, 07:59 PM
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Too pricey new for me, but once they are on the used market, I will be checking it out. Depends on how the engine holds up. One of our vehicles is a 2005 Vibe that I enjoy for every day. This could be its replacement some year.
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