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What does perfection look like?
It looks like the product of depth and precision from both man and machine with the BMW Quality Management. You think you're detail-oriented? Well when you're finished straightening your tie, check out the attention that each and every nut and bolt of every BMW manufactured receives throughout the assembly lines. You're going to want to floss after. Maybe iron the curtains too. Just trust me. |
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I like my BMWs for its driving dynamics, but quality control has never been its strong suit. When we are told orange peel effect on the paint job is "normal", it undoes its marketing words like "perfection".
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And if you believe that you may be interested in a bridge that I have for sale.
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cars still rattle, play up after warranty, faults now and then
so perfection is a myth
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^lmao
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I have two BMWs and don't really have issues with the build quality but it is no better than many other cars I have owned. The most solid feeling car I ever owned was my 1992 Lexus SC300. That car felt like it was carved out of a solid block of steel. Closing the hood felt like you were closing the door of a vault. The worst build quality was my 1969 Firebird 400. I remember a commercial a few years back where they put a Lexus on a giant rotisserie like device and ran a ball bearing around the door to show how consistent the width of the door seams was. My Firebird not only would have failed the ball bearing test it would have failed a bowling ball test. Since the Firebird days I had a Honda Accord and an Acura Integra (both very good build quality) several Jaguars (most recently an XKR - very good build quality and fit and finish and extremely high quality material in the interior) the Lexus. I now have a 335i and a 750Li. Both are solid well built cars but far from "perfection". I have to give credit where credit is due and the 335i Cabrio has remained rattle free in spite of the punishment it took on NYC roads while it was equipped with OEM shock absorbers and RFTs.
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After a year and a half my car is still tighter than a nun's behind.
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Perfection
or this ![]() or this
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For the sake of honesty, I should probably mention that my new estoril blue M sport 328i from S. Africa has a 2" paint run on the trunk lid. It's above the license plate. I guess their perfection crew missed that. Body panel fit is ok. Not great. I agree another poster. Driving dynamics is why to buy a BMW. If you want perfection, look at Lexus, Acura, Audi, and maybe Porsche? Ofcourse all of those brands except Porsche and maybe the S series Audi's represent boring to me.
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BMW paint is by far the worst
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My car came with a weird unfinished part around the window (weather stripping?). The service manager is supposedly ordering a new part to replace it. Other than that, she's as solid as a nun's behind! ![]() Making 1000 cars a day is amazing considering how much is involved. |
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Indeed perfection is not the word to use, but In my eyes it looks to have gotten better than before. Is the quality they're talking about the way the car is sitting on the lot, or perhaps 1 to 2 years down the road? I agree Lexus overall quality is better for a longer time. My X5 is peeling and separating itself on purpose. It's holding up pretty good for an 11 year old though. My E60 is doing much better and looks like it would last much longer. So it looks to be getting better over the years, but perfection is far away because even Lexus wouldn't admit they're perfect.
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im pretty sure my car did not come off that production line....would be nice if it did
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Nice Brequet, how about this
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+1 for the PO.
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How this turn into a watch thread?
BTW, that gold Rolex is hideous.
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Perfection = Rolex Submariner on an M3 steering driven by ME :=)
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![]() I prefer a 1964 Omega Speedmaster pre-moon pre-pro in the foyer of my McMansion, but that's just me. BJ
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Girls, girls, you're getting offtopic again with all your reduntant jewelry chitchat
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better than chit chat with an ATS owner !!!!
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Nice Speedy!
Timeless design hasn't changed that much over the years ![]() ![]() ![]() Perfection Last edited by chiba; 01-31-2013 at 07:33 PM. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() Thanks. My other Speedmaster is the '57 Replica, limited edition which looks good on a strap or a bracelet. And, of course, no collection is complete without the Rolex Sub Date. BJ
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