Wagner IC

Flow tests will not be available for another 6 weeks - per Carsten.

Thanks Chris this will keep everyone quite for a while

Originally Posted by cssnms

Perhaps TDIWyse will chime in regartding his IAT findings when he logged his friend's car.

Sorry, missed this...

Here's the logs I've put in the "data collection thread" for various levels of power mods with the stock IC.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...8&postcount=49

And as a comparison, here is what water/methanol injection can do with the stock IC.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=62

Sounds good but Im not to techie about it, as i understand it it should work more apropriately with a larger IC from WAGNER or whomever, Sorry i live in Puerto Rico and have the RENNtech flash, unless your willing to come down here, you can stay at my home and NO you dont have to shave your legs I have a woman!!! LOL

Originally Posted by TDIwyse

And as a comparison, here is what water/methanol injection can do with the stock IC.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=62

I might have missed it in another thread, but I'd sure like to learn more about your methanol installation. I think that might be a next logical step for me after the i/c.

Originally Posted by 62Lincoln

I might have missed it in another thread, but I'd sure like to learn more about your methanol installation. I think that might be a next logical step for me after the i/c.

There's some stuff in that data collection thread about it. A couple pics, description of the controller, etc. Perhaps this winter when things slow down, if there's interest, could put a more thorough description together.

Axel, that last comment was just creepy . . .

jajajajjajaja @TDIwyse just joking amigo!! Mi casa es su casa your cordially invited.

Originally Posted by TDIwyse

There's some stuff in that data collection thread about it. A couple pics, description of the controller, etc. .

Sorry about that, I looked through there, but missed it I guess. Blind as a bat (and about half as smart!).

Yes amigo we are getting old LOL

This is the email I sent Carsten:


Re: AW: 335d Intercooler
1 recipientsCC: recipientsYou MoreBCC: recipientsYou Hide Details FROM:Wagner-Tuning TO:Axel Hernandez Message flagged Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:40 PM
I'll try my best!

Mit freundlichen Grüßen/ best Regards


Carsten Wagner


Gesendet vom iPhone

Am 30.10.2012 um 10:49 schrieb Axel Hernandez <axelhernandez61@yahoo.com>:


Carsten good day, I am planning in doing the 1/2 mile race and would like to see if I can get the IC ASAP if possible, the race is scheduled for 12/01/2012. Here is the link http://www.mr-bits.com/prhalfmile/

There had been speculation elsewhere about the status of the i/c, so I decided to call Wagner and ask. I spoke with Nick at Wagner/USA. He told me that the i/c's have been built, and there are 50 units sitting in U.S. Customs awaiting clearance. Wagner has been told to expect a wait of 2-3 weeks for the units to clear customs and get to them.

I asked him about testing, and he said Wagner plans to work with a shop in California to do their tests. I'll wait and let him explain the details when he is ready.

So -- we are very close! He also said they plan to put together a group buy once they have the units in hand, so be patient. I'm still amazed that we will have a bespoke unit for our cars. Very cool.

So any flow tests yet?

The hype seems to have died down...lol.

Originally Posted by GreekboyD

So any flow tests yet?

The hype seems to have died down...lol.

No - Still no flow test/pressure drop #'s.

When comparing gassers to diesels, I thought diesels were more efficient in their combustion & therefore run cooler. Or what I mean is they don't heat up as quickly like a gasser does under hard or spirited driving. Can someone verify? A friend who is a diesel mechanic told me this.

Originally Posted by robster10

When comparing gassers to diesels, I thought diesels were more efficient in their combustion & therefore run cooler. Or what I mean is they don't heat up as quickly like a gasser does under hard or spirited driving. Can someone verify? A friend who is a diesel mechanic told me this.

True from what I understand.

That is a big difference in temp reading. But that is a new unit. What was mileage on old ic? Consider dirt, debris, dust etc. can block the fins an drastically reduce the amount of air going through the vanes & therefore losing its cooling efficiency. I live in southern Ontario, where salt & sand is used on the roads to combat snow & icy road conditions. I clean my ic as well as the radiator every spring & I don't even drive my car in the winter. High pressure washer with detergent then plain water & finish with compressed air. Being so low to the ground you will be surprised by the filth that builds up in the vanes. Wherever you live it would be good practise too clean any radiador inercooler, etc. Your ride will run much better.

yes, trade out the salt/sand business for significant bugs in the south during the summer. I would be careful with high pressure on those aluminum fins though. They can be easily bent. I annually clean my home AC condenser coil to keep up efficiency. Texas summers are hell especially along the gulf coast.

Diesels have better thermal efficiency than gassers. What this means is the energy content in the fuel is better converted into mechanical output and less thermal energy leaving the exhaust port. It is interesting to note that as compression ratio increases, gassers thermal efficiency increases. I know diesels have a much higher CR in order to get the diesel to detonate on compression.

Ok amigos I got the IC at my house I just arrived last evening from Orlando and would you believe I havent even opened the box to see whats inside WTF!! anyway I will keep everyone posted with before and after dynos and post either pics and or video on all 3 sites I enter daily so be PATIENT with me i got construction going on on my house and im a little tight on DINERO!! Gracias!!!

Got mine installed by BTM. The hoses promptly slipped/blew off and first had lagging performance, then CEL, then limp mode.

Took it back to BTM, consulted with Wagner (who had no problems with theirs).

Conclusion: BTM cut notches to match the stock IC so the snap rings would seat properly.

Reinstalled, everything is great. Should have experimented, but I would guess 1mpg better in my 75 mile commute. Instant fuel guage seems to read the same at 80mph as it did with the stock IC at 75mph. Scientific? No. Glad I did it? Of course!

Originally Posted by Deuuuce

Got mine installed by BTM. The hoses promptly slipped/blew off and first had lagging performance, then CEL, then limp mode.

Took it back to BTM, consulted with Wagner (who had no problems with theirs).

Conclusion: BTM cut notches to match the stock IC so the snap rings would seat properly.

Reinstalled, everything is great. Should have experimented, but I would guess 1mpg better in my 75 mile commute. Instant fuel guage seems to read the same at 80mph as it did with the stock IC at 75mph. Scientific? No. Glad I did it? Of course!

I thought Wagner said this IC was straight plug and play and that it was designed specifically for the 335d?

Originally Posted by GreekboyD

I thought Wagner said this IC was straight plug and play and that it was designed specifically for the 335d?

It fits beautifully, it's significantly larger (and heavier) but Wagner sent me photos showing they do not have notches for the snap rings ever but haven't had any problems.

It cost me an extra trip and $100, but just passing this along to others.

Originally Posted by Deuuuce

It fits beautifully, it's significantly larger (and heavier) but Wagner sent me photos showing they do not have notches for the snap rings ever but haven't had any problems.

It cost me an extra trip and $100, but just passing this along to others.

Still kind of confused. How could you (and potentially the rest of us have issues) yet Wagner doesn't?

Can you post the pics to show us?

Thanks!

Originally Posted by GreekboyD

Still kind of confused. How could you (and potentially the rest of us have issues) yet Wagner doesn't?

Can you post the pics to show us?

Thanks!

Perhaps it was the installation, but per attached, there is no place for the leg of the snap ring to nest into. The stock IC has notches for them to keep them from rotating/slipping in addition to the flat spots cut into the pipe.

I'll have to load a pic later or do it on my mobile.

Lets see how the mobile app does.

Ahhhh, now I get what you're saying. Thanks for that info man.

Keep us posted on your findings in terms of performance over the coming weeks.