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Old 05-07-2012, 09:18 PM
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:42 AM
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Would you be willing to quote on a 535i with ED and PCD? Am Florida resident.
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Old 05-09-2012, 07:29 AM
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Would you be willing to quote on a 535i with ED and PCD? Am Florida resident.
I wish that I could.. Because we are a small dealer our allocation/supply is limited. We therefore only offer the program to residents of California and the adjacent states.
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:12 AM
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I wish that I could.. Because we are a small dealer our allocation/supply is limited. We therefore only offer the program to residents of California and the adjacent states.
ED 535's come out of dealer allocation?
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Old 05-15-2012, 07:44 AM
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Guess I will go with Greg Poland at Pacific BMW. Thanks
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:41 PM
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All of the information on this forum says that ED car do not come out of a dealer'sallocation.
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Old 05-24-2012, 07:36 PM
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Hi Jon,

I'm new to the forum. Really nice job with this..

I am coming out of an MB lease in a couple of months. I was wondering if you could quote me a lease on a 535i

Deepsea blue, oyster black interior leather, premium package, technology package, upgraded audio, heated front seats and BMW Apps 15000 miles/year. I'm looking to put no cap reduction down.I would like to do maximum MSD to reduce the MF. I have also $1000 olympic drive coupon. Are there any conquest coupons (MB apparently does these for BMW owners). Prior to the MB I was on a BMWFS lease for 3 years. Does that count as loyalty (coming back)

I live in SoCal.

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Old 05-29-2012, 12:48 PM
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Hi Everyone,

I'm currently getting out of a 528i lease in 6 weeks and my local BMW (Los Angeles) dealership is quoting me the following and saying I should take the deal by end of May (otherwise incentives may go away).

I'd appreciate if you guys can give me comments on this. I'm trying to verify the MF/Residuals/incentives are all correct:

535i Sedan (Silver Color)
Sports Package, Technology Package, Premium Package, Sprots Automatic Paddles ($500)
MSRP: $61,625
Invoice : $56,700
However, they added $380 Maco, $200 Training/Service Fee, and $231 "Dealer Prep & PDI Fee" so actual Invoice is $57, 510.

They subtracted $1500 loyalty rebate and current $1500 option allowance so I'm about $55,570 adjusted capital cost.

36 month / 12,000 mile lease:
Residual : 58%
MF: 0.00185

$1,352 Drive off (1st month & dmv fees + $135 tax on the $1500 rebate)
$721/month
$785 (including taxes)

I have a few questions:
1) Is 0.00185 MF correct ? (i heard that owner loyalty may be lower)
2) is 58% residual correct ?
3) should they add MAco/Service fees and this $231 dealer prep fee ?

Any comments appreciated !
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Old 05-29-2012, 05:19 PM
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Hi Everyone,

I'm currently getting out of a 528i lease in 6 weeks and my local BMW (Los Angeles) dealership is quoting me the following and saying I should take the deal by end of May (otherwise incentives may go away).

I'd appreciate if you guys can give me comments on this. I'm trying to verify the MF/Residuals/incentives are all correct:

535i Sedan (Silver Color)
Sports Package, Technology Package, Premium Package, Sprots Automatic Paddles ($500)
MSRP: $61,625
Invoice : $56,700
However, they added $380 Maco, $200 Training/Service Fee, and $231 "Dealer Prep & PDI Fee" so actual Invoice is $57, 510.

They subtracted $1500 loyalty rebate and current $1500 option allowance so I'm about $55,570 adjusted capital cost.

36 month / 12,000 mile lease:
Residual : 58%
MF: 0.00185

$1,352 Drive off (1st month & dmv fees + $135 tax on the $1500 rebate)
$721/month
$785 (including taxes)

I have a few questions:
1) Is 0.00185 MF correct ? (i heard that owner loyalty may be lower)
2) is 58% residual correct ?
3) should they add MAco/Service fees and this $231 dealer prep fee ?

Any comments appreciated !
Regarding Maco and Training fee - These fees are legit and not something the dealer will usually negotiate on. If you configure your car on BMWconfig, it will add the training fee. Maco seems to vary between areas of the country.

Dealer prep fee? I've never seen this added and its sounds like something you should question. In my recent order, Maco and training fee was added, but no other fees (except for the documentary fee $150, which is also something you can negotiate, but I usually don’t bother for $150 on a $60k+ car loan). - let the finance guy get something out of me
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:44 PM
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ED 535's come out of dealer allocation?
No, however whether ED or US delivery, we focus on selling to West Coast buyers exclusively. If you are in the South East the best
CA available is none other than our own Adrian Avila who has been helping Bimmerfest members for the past 9 years.

If you are in FLORIDA there is no need to all the way to CALIFORNIA to get a good deal...

He can be reached at AdriansBMW@gmail.com. Feed your local economy.

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All of the information on this forum says that ED car do not come out of a dealer'sallocation.
You are correct. I should have worded my response differently. All I meant to say is that I limit my reach to the West Coast.
Plus, we are a small dealer. I am not out for global domination. That, and I really enjoy meeting all of my buyers that come from my website face to face.
That is primarily why I came out of retirement...

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Hi Everyone,

I'm currently getting out of a 528i lease in 6 weeks and my local BMW (Los Angeles) dealership is quoting me the following and saying I should take the deal by end of May (otherwise incentives may go away).

I'd appreciate if you guys can give me comments on this. I'm trying to verify the MF/Residuals/incentives are all correct:

535i Sedan (Silver Color)
Sports Package, Technology Package, Premium Package, Sprots Automatic Paddles ($500)
MSRP: $61,625
Invoice : $56,700
However, they added $380 Maco, $200 Training/Service Fee, and $231 "Dealer Prep & PDI Fee" so actual Invoice is $57, 510.

They subtracted $1500 loyalty rebate and current $1500 option allowance so I'm about $55,570 adjusted capital cost.

36 month / 12,000 mile lease:
Residual : 58%
MF: 0.00185

$1,352 Drive off (1st month & dmv fees + $135 tax on the $1500 rebate)
$721/month
$785 (including taxes)

I have a few questions:
1) Is 0.00185 MF correct ? (i heard that owner loyalty may be lower)
2) is 58% residual correct ?
3) should they add MAco/Service fees and this $231 dealer prep fee ?

Any comments appreciated !
$231 dealer prep fee. We have a smiley for that...





It's just another way to milk an extra $231 out of your pocket...

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Old 08-05-2012, 11:33 AM
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Hi Jon -
Do you cater to Washington residents? I am looking for a black on black 535i with Technology and Premium packages. Hoping you can help.
Thanks,
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:12 PM
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Hello Jon,

Do you know of anyone that offers this type of service in TX? What do you think about offer posted below? What is considered a reasonable offer for leasing an 528i with Premium and Technology Packages?

Thanks.

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Hi Everyone,

I'm currently getting out of a 528i lease in 6 weeks and my local BMW (Los Angeles) dealership is quoting me the following and saying I should take the deal by end of May (otherwise incentives may go away).

I'd appreciate if you guys can give me comments on this. I'm trying to verify the MF/Residuals/incentives are all correct:

535i Sedan (Silver Color)
Sports Package, Technology Package, Premium Package, Sprots Automatic Paddles ($500)
MSRP: $61,625
Invoice : $56,700
However, they added $380 Maco, $200 Training/Service Fee, and $231 "Dealer Prep & PDI Fee" so actual Invoice is $57, 510.

They subtracted $1500 loyalty rebate and current $1500 option allowance so I'm about $55,570 adjusted capital cost.

36 month / 12,000 mile lease:
Residual : 58%
MF: 0.00185

$1,352 Drive off (1st month & dmv fees + $135 tax on the $1500 rebate)
$721/month
$785 (including taxes)

I have a few questions:
1) Is 0.00185 MF correct ? (i heard that owner loyalty may be lower)
2) is 58% residual correct ?
3) should they add MAco/Service fees and this $231 dealer prep fee ?

Any comments appreciated !
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:28 AM
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Jon, we leased a 650 and a 750 this past year but we need to get 2 more cars, probably 535's. I know there is a national ad going now, but can you make it more attractive so we can get them from you.
I enjoy these forums and would love to support you if at all possible.

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Old 11-19-2012, 10:57 AM
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When I build a new 5 series online the MSRP is 66,000. How can I tell what the invoice is? Are any of my selections redundant?
I'm torn between Alpine White, and Space Gray.
BASE MSRP
$53,100
Space Gray Metallic$550
Black Nappa Leather$1,000
Aluminum Hexagon interior trim$0
Driver Assistance Package$1,900
Luxury Seating Package$2,400
M Sport Package$2,900
Technology Package$2,800
Heated front seats$500
Destination & Handling$895

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Hi Jon,

after reading hundreds of your posts everyday, I've finally joined the forum. I would like to send you the specs I'm shopping for, here in Bay Area CA. It'll be great if you can offer something special so I can drive down to Santa Barbara for it. Should I PM you the config that I am planning to lease? I am ok with waiting until summer to get a sweet deal.

Let me know.

Thanks a lot.
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Hi Jon,

I am in the market for a 550i and am wondering if you work with folks in the Phoenix metro area? I have heard great things about your service and pricing here on the forums and just thought I'd reach out to you and see if you are interested in discussing a car

Regards,
Craig
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:20 AM
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Costco offers invoice plus pricing on all cars, including BMW to members. I have a purchased BMW and Audi through Costco recently and found the deals very straight forward and clean. Everything you purchase, including any warranties are invoice plus one markup in dollars.

The only issue is Nashville had no authorized dealers for either car so had to go to Atlanta (4 hours away) for both. Got complete pricing and trade in over the phone.

Really smooth way to purchase a car.
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Looking for best price on 535 in Southern California

Could anyone tell me if this deal is possible? I had a dealer get within $1k of my price so far.

2013 535i (Jet Black/Oyster (or black interior), Anthracite Wood

8-Speed Steptronic Automatic Transmission (205)
Standard Paint (-PAINT)
Oyster/Black, Dakota Leather Seat Trim (LCCX)
Jet Black (668)
Rear-View Camera (3AG)
Front & Rear Park Distance Control (508)
Technology Pkg (ZTP)
Hard Drive-Based Navigation System (609)
BMW Apps (6NR)
Anthracite Wood Interior Trim (4CE)
M Sport Pkg (ZMP)
Aluminum Hexagon Interior Trim (4MR)

Looking to lease 12k/miles, 36 months, Max out MSD, 2-3k additional cap reduction, payments $550/month INCLUDING tax. I think sales price needs to be $56-57k for this deal to work.
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Could anyone tell me if this deal is possible? I had a dealer get within $1k of my price so far.

2013 535i (Jet Black/Oyster (or black interior), Anthracite Wood

8-Speed Steptronic Automatic Transmission (205)
Standard Paint (-PAINT)
Oyster/Black, Dakota Leather Seat Trim (LCCX)
Jet Black (668)
Rear-View Camera (3AG)
Front & Rear Park Distance Control (508)
Technology Pkg (ZTP)
Hard Drive-Based Navigation System (609)
BMW Apps (6NR)
Anthracite Wood Interior Trim (4CE)
M Sport Pkg (ZMP)
Aluminum Hexagon Interior Trim (4MR)

Looking to lease 12k/miles, 36 months, Max out MSD, 2-3k additional cap reduction, payments $550/month INCLUDING tax. I think sales price needs to be $56-57k for this deal to work.

What is the MSRP of the vehicle as specified? It is helpful to know what your estimate to know what the selling price would need to be to swing the deal, but short of reverse-engineering your entire deal, a quick answer could be revealed just by knowing where the selling price would be relative to invoice. Is there any profit as structured? Under invoice? How much?
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Thank you for the feedback. Here are the details on pricing according to the BMWConfig.com site:

MSRP: $61,175
Invoice: $56,845 (includes $350 MACO, and $200 Training)

I believe the residual for 12k/yr and 36 months is 62%, and with MSD the money factor can be down to .00078. Im in an 8% tax jurisdiction. $2K Cap Reduction for a $559/mo payment including tax if selling price was $56k.

Anyone have insight into June 2013 possible incentives? Im guessing something will come out soon as the 2014 go into production?
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Thank you for the feedback. Here are the details on pricing according to the BMWConfig.com site:

MSRP: $61,175
Invoice: $56,845 (includes $350 MACO, and $200 Training)

I believe the residual for 12k/yr and 36 months is 62%, and with MSD the money factor can be down to .00078. Im in an 8% tax jurisdiction. $2K Cap Reduction for a $559/mo payment including tax if selling price was $56k.

Anyone have insight into June 2013 possible incentives? Im guessing something will come out soon as the 2014 go into production?
Make sure you attend the drive event for a $1000 coupon:

https://www.bmwusa.com/secured/conte...esummer13.aspx
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:48 AM
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Thanks for the tip! Signed up for the event.. looking forward to my $1,000k rebate which may finally get me to the price I need. I hope some incentives come out for June
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Make sure you attend the drive event for a $1000 coupon:

https://www.bmwusa.com/secured/conte...esummer13.aspx
My event looks like it's July 2nd which will be AFTER I pickup my 550i....will I just not get the $1000?
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Already Ordered-Can Drive Event Coupon Still Be Used

I ordered a 2013 535i that will deliver mid to late July. The Drive Event in my area is in early June and I am scheduled to participate. If the car is already ordered can I still use/apply the Drive Event Coupon to the transaction?
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