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The sixth generation 3 series, chassis code F30. 2013 model year 328i and 335i sedans now in production. Read the F30 frequently asked question thread for all your basic question and dive into all the details in the ultimate F30 information thread.

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Old 02-16-2013, 07:58 PM
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Trying to decide between a 335i and a 328i sedan.

I'm thinking of leasing either a 2013 335i or 328i sedan. Both are pretty much identically equipped, except for the stuff that comes standard in 335i and the 19in M rims which are not available in the 328i. The options are M sports, Nav, Lighting Package, HK sound, PDC & camera.

The lease price I was quoted are only about $70/month apart between the two cars ($665 for the 335i and $594 for the 328i with zero down).

I currently have a 2010 335i coupe that I really like, but the lease in up in April and it's starting to have some engine issues (just had to replaced the 2nd HPFP and 3 injectors last month). I test drove the 328i and found the power to be almost as good as my 335i. Although I do like the sound of an inline 6 better. I also like the 19in M rims and the dual exhaust look of the 335i better.

I guess the question comes down to whether these differences are worth $70 a month lease. Any advice?
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:06 PM
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:22 PM
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I'm thinking of leasing either a 2013 335i or 328i sedan. Both are pretty much identically equipped, except for the stuff that comes standard in 335i and the 19in M rims which are not available in the 328i. The options are M sports, Nav, Lighting Package, HK sound, PDC & camera.

The lease price I was quoted are only about $70/month apart between the two cars ($665 for the 335i and $594 for the 328i with zero down).

I currently have a 2010 335i coupe that I really like, but the lease in up in April and it's starting to have some engine issues (just had to replaced the 2nd HPFP and 3 injectors last month). I test drove the 328i and found the power to be almost as good as my 335i. Although I do like the sound of an inline 6 better. I also like the 19in M rims and the dual exhaust look of the 335i better.

I guess the question comes down to whether these differences are worth $70 a month lease. Any advice?
70 sounds like a bit too much of a difference, the real price difference when accounting for option that are standard in 35 and cost money in 28, (moonroof, zenons) is about 3k i believe. it should 40 to 50 dollars in a payment on a zerodown lease.
I agree about DHP. but add it to 335!
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Old 02-17-2013, 05:26 AM
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I just test drove a stick 335xi yesterday and found it to be the absolute best car I've ever driven. The difference (IMHO) between that inline 4 and the inline 6 is absolutely unhinged. The inline 4 feels so unrefined in comparison. It's comparatively uneven, vibratory and noisy. And I figured the 6 paired with the manual would be a little much for normal driving, like the manual version of the Accord ExV6 coupe. While the Accord feels like you're crop dusting with an F-16, the manual 335xi felt like a natural pairing. My only complaint was the gas consumption, which in my test drive was so bad (~17) that it would keep me awake at night.

Sometimes I chuckle about first-world problems... Trying to decide between the $45K BMW and the $55K BMW, while so many people are starving. But I agree with you in this case- it's a tough call!
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Old 02-17-2013, 05:33 AM
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If it was my only car, I would go with the 335 if the money was not a big deal. Only you know your budget.
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Do not hesitate to sacrifice a few equipments to get the 335i.

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The difference (IMHO) between that inline 4 and the inline 6 is absolutely unhinged. The inline 4 feels so unrefined in comparison. It's comparatively uneven, vibratory and noisy.
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:20 AM
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I'm a dissenter in these forums but I like the 328 better. The 335 is too noisy and rough for me. I agree that the 335 makes better acceleration and feels sportier, but at the cost of luxury feel. So if you want a sportier feel rather than a more luxurious feel go with the 335, otherwise the 328.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:12 AM
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cant go wrong with either. i dont think the 335 is worth an extra 70 bucks tho.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:29 AM
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I went with the 335 after seriously considering the 328. After configuring equivalent options, the difference so was so minor and with the extra horses/torque on the engine, for me, it was a no brainer. $70/month seems a little high - if you configure the cars with the same options (which means getting some things on the 328 to make it = to the 335 like lighting, moonroof, etc) - you really should be about $30-$50 higher per month. My suggestion is to drive both and decide for yourself. Only you can determine if the 335 is $70 per month better than the 328 for you. Good luck. You can't go wrong with either. They are both terrific choices.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:31 AM
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IMO - while shopping for an F30, spending several thousand dollars for a 60 HP bump wasn't worth it to me. YMMV but this is my daily commute car so outright performance wasn't a priority. I have other vehicles for that.
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If I recall correctly, you can get the 335i minus maybe leather seats for only $3k or so above the 328i. That sounds like a reasonably good value add proposition over the long term considering what $3k normally buys you in options.

I have driven both cars back to back (automatics only). The 328i is lighter and handles better but the 335i is smoother and more refined. The 335i supposedly has better brakes as well.

I have also driven a 335i MT (but not a 328i MT). All I can say is that that car talks to me.
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Old 02-17-2013, 11:05 AM
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I went with the 335 after seriously considering the 328. After configuring equivalent options, the difference so was so minor and with the extra horses/torque on the engine, for me, it was a no brainer. $70/month seems a little high - if you configure the cars with the same options (which means getting some things on the 328 to make it = to the 335 like lighting, moonroof, etc) - you really should be about $30-$50 higher per month. My suggestion is to drive both and decide for yourself. Only you can determine if the 335 is $70 per month better than the 328 for you. Good luck. You can't go wrong with either. They are both terrific choices.
I added the 19" M rims option to the 335i, which might explain the slightly higher monthly difference.

Another question I have is are those good deals on lease? I'm in TX, if that makes a difference.
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Old 02-17-2013, 11:21 AM
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I added the 19" M rims option to the 335i, which might explain the slightly higher monthly difference.

Another question I have is are those good deals on lease? I'm in TX, if that makes a difference.
Seems a little high but without the detailed numbers its hard to make that call. We would need residual, money factor, capital cost, invoice cost, taxes, fees, etc. Its alot to share but if you want a real evaluation, we need to see those numbers.
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If I recall correctly, you can get the 335i minus maybe leather seats for only $3k or so above the 328i. That sounds like a reasonably good value add proposition over the long term considering what $3k normally buys you in options.

I have driven both cars back to back (automatics only). The 328i is lighter and handles better but the 335i is smoother and more refined. The 335i supposedly has better brakes as well.

I have also driven a 335i MT (but not a 328i MT). All I can say is that that car talks to me.
Both cars are really great, but for me the 335 accelerates so effortlessly compared to the 328. The 328's got spunk, but it feels like it's working its a$$ off when you get on it. Writers, and many posters here, claim the 328 handles better in the corners, but the 335 is more planted at highway speeds and upwards. I plan on opening mine up on the Autobahn and want the planted feel. Also, the brakes are upgraded on the 335. Really, there are no bad choices here.
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Seems a little high but without the detailed numbers its hard to make that call. We would need residual, money factor, capital cost, invoice cost, taxes, fees, etc. Its alot to share but if you want a real evaluation, we need to see those numbers.
Here are the quotes for both cars:

328i:



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The base acquisition fee is 725, so it looks like they've marked that up a bit. BMWFS states the acquisition fee is 725. I believe the base money factor is also ~.00135 for Feb, so they may have marked that up -- but I don't know that for sure. You'd have to ask your CA what the 'base money factor from BMWFS' is.

Also - if you can put some cash down, consider BMW's MSD program. You put down up to 7 security deposits (your lease payment rounded up to the nearest $50), and each one reduces your money factor by .00007 (for a total of .00049). The money is not at risk and you get it back at the end of the lease. Due to the cash you save on your payment from the reduced money factor, it typically works out to a 10 or 11% return on your money.
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You are so lucky in the USA. At 665$, we don't even have a 328i. A 335i here is around 950$C/month. With NAVI and M-Sport as above, like 1100$C/month.
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The base Money Factor is 0.00130, and as stated above, the base acquisition fee is 725. Run the numbers above at http://www.leaseguide.com/calc.htm, and get the full invoice from www.bmwconfig.com, and then see where you're at.
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I'm thinking of leasing either a 2013 335i or 328i sedan. Both are pretty much identically equipped, except for the stuff that comes standard in 335i and the 19in M rims which are not available in the 328i. The options are M sports, Nav, Lighting Package, HK sound, PDC & camera.

The lease price I was quoted are only about $70/month apart between the two cars ($665 for the 335i and $594 for the 328i with zero down).

I currently have a 2010 335i coupe that I really like, but the lease in up in April and it's starting to have some engine issues (just had to replaced the 2nd HPFP and 3 injectors last month). I test drove the 328i and found the power to be almost as good as my 335i. Although I do like the sound of an inline 6 better. I also like the 19in M rims and the dual exhaust look of the 335i better.

I guess the question comes down to whether these differences are worth $70 a month lease. Any advice?
The 328i is a beast, it's all the car you need.

Either save the money or put the $70 towards some more useful options. Have fun.

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