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E60 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 02-17-2013, 09:03 PM
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I was tired of searching through countless threads and posts with the same Daten files, so I downloaded & uploaded the data files (V41) SEPARATELY for each chasis onto my Rapidshare Account. Links should be good forever as I always renew my contract every 2-3 years. If anyone has any other important files that they would like uploaded and hosted, I will do so, just message me what you need.

STS 2100 Setup = https://rapidshare.com/files/9772030...2100_Setup.zip

V41:
E36 V41 Daten Files = https://rapidshare.com/files/1728124...aten_Files.rar
E38 V41 Daten Files = https://rapidshare.com/files/3083436...aten_Files.rar
E39 V41 Daten Files = https://rapidshare.com/files/1672164...aten_Files.rar
E46 V41 Daten Files = https://rapidshare.com/files/4196534...aten_Files.rar
E52 V41 Daten Files = https://rapidshare.com/files/3193868...aten_Files.rar
E53 V41 Daten Files = https://rapidshare.com/files/4104321...aten_Files.rar
E60 V41 Daten Files = https://rapidshare.com/files/1075756...aten_Files.rar
E65 V41 Daten Files = https://rapidshare.com/files/2644713...aten_Files.rar
E70 V41 Daten Files = https://rapidshare.com/files/2006344...aten_Files.rar
E89 V41 Daten Files = https://rapidshare.com/files/1813178...aten_Files.rar
F001 V41 Daten Files = https://rapidshare.com/files/2655435...aten_Files.rar
F010 V41 Daten Files = https://rapidshare.com/files/1063657...aten_Files.rar
F025 V41 Daten Files = https://rapidshare.com/files/9389030...aten_Files.rar
K001 V41 Daten Files = https://rapidshare.com/files/8644125...aten_Files.rar
K1X V41 Daten Files = https://rapidshare.com/files/2941985...aten_Files.rar
K24 V41 Daten Files = https://rapidshare.com/files/1109300...aten_Files.rar
R50 V41 Daten Files = https://rapidshare.com/files/2927685...aten_Files.rar
R56 V41 Daten Files = https://rapidshare.com/files/3617203...aten_Files.rar
RR1 V41 Daten Files = https://rapidshare.com/files/4073048...aten_Files.rar

V42:
E89 V42 Daten Files = https://rapidshare.com/files/4983306...aten_Files.rar

V43:
E89 V43 Daten Files = https://rapidshare.com/files/1350555...aten_Files.rar

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Old 02-17-2013, 09:28 PM
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Bookmarked, thanks, this is something I will gladly try. Just not clear as to where they get the latest software versions. I guess it'll be something to play with on a VM
Careful with VM, my friend have had bad experience with USB passthrough layer where he bricked a phone. I'm a bit weary of DYI as well but almost feel compelled to do it as a principal of not wanting to deal with Stealer and BMWs silly no update policy. I've registered on bmwcoding.com and bmwcoder.com and will be doing more research before attempting anything. After all, bricking a $60k car isn't exactly like bricking a $60 router or $600 phone.
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:31 PM
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Careful with VM, my friend have had bad experience with USB passthrough layer where he bricked a phone. I'm a bit weary of DYI as well but almost feel compelled to do it as a principal of not wanting to deal with Stealer and BMWs silly no update policy. I've registered on bmwcoding.com and bmwcoder.com and will be doing more research before attempting anything. After all, bricking a $60k car isn't exactly like bricking a $60 router or $600 phone.
Very true, keep me updated if you don't mind
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:37 PM
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Very true, keep me updated if you don't mind
Of course, if I do go through with it I will start a dedicated thread and do a write up if I succeed. I found some experienced coders in the Atlanta area and have reached out for their help. I'm thinking about paying them to walk me through the process and learn from hands on work.
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:40 PM
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Of course, if I do go through with it I will start a dedicated thread and do a write up if I succeed. I found some experienced coders in the Atlanta area and have reached out for their help. I'm thinking about paying them to walk me through the process and learn from hands on work.
Good idea, wish I could do the same, but my buddy that is the coding guru I know is moving to Asia next week.
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Old 02-18-2013, 09:53 AM
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Careful with VM, my friend have had bad experience with USB passthrough layer where he bricked a phone. I'm a bit weary of DYI as well but almost feel compelled to do it as a principal of not wanting to deal with Stealer and BMWs silly no update policy. I've registered on bmwcoding.com and bmwcoder.com and will be doing more research before attempting anything. After all, bricking a $60k car isn't exactly like bricking a $60 router or $600 phone.
It depends on what tool(s) you are working with

For WinKFP it can run natively (although it only runs on 32 bit versions of Windows so I would use an XP 32 bit VM). The DIS and ISTA/P and ISTA/D versions that are out and about require either they be ran in a VM, or you can buy a hard drive with a native install, and then they will run on specific hardware (usually Lenovo X61 laptops is what I have seen them run on). If using ISTA/P or D natively, as far as I know you HAVE to use an actual ICOM device (or replica from China at least). For WinKFP or any of these software options via VMWare, you can get an emulator on eBay for about $75 that will let you use a regular ICOM cable.

I have not been able to get ISTA/P to work properly in VMware + emulator. ISTA/D seems to work fine though.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:42 PM
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I'd just play it safe, if needed get a cheap net book, what's another $100 tool to get the job done? We are talking about BMWs here lol
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:45 PM
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Some of the tools you don't have a choice. It's either you do it in a VM or you buy a specific laptop (X61's usually) along with a hard drive with the software pre-installed on it. Then you also need the ICOM interface if you go that route. Not cheap.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:48 PM
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Some of the tools you don't have a choice. It's either you do it in a VM or you buy a specific laptop (X61's usually) along with a hard drive with the software pre-installed on it. Then you also need the ICOM interface if you go that route. Not cheap.
I see, I have a lot to learn and thanks for the insights! Local Indy mech recommended by friend charges $100 to update transmission, might get them to do it this time around since none of the ATL BMW coders have gotten back to me
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:49 PM
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I would gladly pay someone that knows what they're doing $100 to update mine, that's for sure!
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:06 PM
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I would gladly pay someone that knows what they're doing $100 to update mine, that's for sure!
Agreed, that's what I'm thinking as well, the guy was service manager at the dealer across the street from his shop so I'd hope he knows what's up. I'm thinking plan of attack right now is update software and hopefully fixes the issue, the change fluid. He did recommend BMW oe fluid but I'm thinking I'll go with Redline D4 based on other feedback and reviews
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:20 PM
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I'd recommend you stick with OEM as well. I'm at 187 or 188K miles on (as far as I know) the original transmission. OEM fluid.
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:24 PM
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I'd recommend you stick with OEM as well. I'm at 187 or 188K miles on (as far as I know) the original transmission. OEM fluid.
Noted, been looking at parts/oil etc, any ideas what's the difference between the BMW pan here:
http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E60-545...ssion/ES44760/
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the ZF pan here:
http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E60-545...ion/ES2523884/

ECSTuning shows both for the 545i and seeing that ZF makes transmission, curious why the BMW pan is 2x the price...
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:49 PM
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I've seen a lot of parts for these things that you can buy from the OEM at half the price BMW charges for the same thing.. So it's probably the same pan, with and without the BMW tax.

It looks like the product numbers are the same to me unless I'm missing something. I went with one from thectsc.com (I bought the kit with fluid)
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:51 PM
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http://www.thectsc.com/index.php?p=p...=186&parent=50 <- this kit?
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:57 PM
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That tis it!

Also, in regards to using redline, I'm not sure how good it is to mix redline and OEM fluid, so that was another reason I stuck with OEM. You can only change about 6 quarts. The other 6+ is in the torque converter and valve body where it can't be drained.

It very well may not matter, but just a thought.

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Old 02-18-2013, 09:21 PM
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That tis it!

Also, in regards to using redline, I'm not sure how good it is to mix redline and OEM fluid, so that was another reason I stuck with OEM. You can only change about 6 quarts. The other 6+ is in the torque converter and valve body where it can't be drained.

It very well may not matter, but just a thought.
Oh, the fluid from the torque converter and valve body does drain, but it takes 4-5 hrs to do so, I know friends that left the car draining overnight and filled ~11 quarts the next morning. When I did my old 530 it was draining for about 5-6 hrs and I added nearly 11 quarts.
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Old 02-18-2013, 09:25 PM
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Roger that, I had that experience with my TL (which has a glass transmission which brought a class action lawsuit and settlement from Honda) which during the first change they recommend at 100K (I did mine at 68K) that you do a 3x3 drain/refill which is basically do the change with 3 quarts, drive around shift through all 5 gears, drain/refill and repeat 2 more times in order to change out all the fluid in 1 session. Would not recommend that at high mileage but mine was fine at the time at 68K.
Good point about mixing fluids, think I'll get the kit from Schpenxel's recommendation, ZF fluid and non-BMW taxed pan
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:30 PM
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I see, I have a lot to learn and thanks for the insights! Local Indy mech recommended by friend charges $100 to update transmission, might get them to do it this time around since none of the ATL BMW coders have gotten back to me
100 bucks for the update....... is money well spent.. id would jump on that quick...
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:46 AM
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Oh, the fluid from the torque converter and valve body does drain, but it takes 4-5 hrs to do so, I know friends that left the car draining overnight and filled ~11 quarts the next morning. When I did my old 530 it was draining for about 5-6 hrs and I added nearly 11 quarts.
You really shouldn't get all of it out of the torque converter, although when I pulled the mechatronics out and had everything apart for a few hours to drain, I ended up putting something like 8 quarts in. It's got to be a large part of it though, if you wait long enough

Make sure to buy enough fluid if you're going that route! I BARELY had enough when I did mine last time.
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:10 AM
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Yea I'm going to get the kit from ctsc + 2 liters spare
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:03 AM
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You really shouldn't get all of it out of the torque converter, although when I pulled the mechatronics out and had everything apart for a few hours to drain, I ended up putting something like 8 quarts in. It's got to be a large part of it though, if you wait long enough

Make sure to buy enough fluid if you're going that route! I BARELY had enough when I did mine last time.
Definitely, I knew I was going to be replacing as much fluid as possible so I ordered 12 qts. I was not convinced when every kit I saw came with 6 qts and every thing I read said my tranny held 11.5 qts, so I bought 12 and conferred with indy mechanics and friends that had it done and all said to just let it sit and drain as much as possible because the beneficial effect of the new fluid was much less when you have a significant amount of old fluid still in the tranny.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:06 AM
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Yeah, I ended up changing mine twice in a short period of time, so between the 6 I put in the first time and 8 I put in the second time, I should be close enough to all new fluid to be good for a while. You've got plenty.
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this post reminds me of something that i did to a 400 turbo trans on an old chevy truck I used to own when i had a shift kit installed. What i did was drilled and tapped the converter and put a threaded plug ...and the actuall fluid pushed all the shavings out which was good.. but was nice is that getting all the fluid out of the tranny was quick. it worked really well... Im not suggesting it to any one,, but thought id share that... Ive pondered about doen that, but to scared... to even think about doen it to my car...
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Do these cars even have an inspection cover around the torque converter? For some reason it wouldn't surprise if BMW deemed one unnecessary..
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