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X1 E84 (2011 - current)
The new to the US BMW X1 will arrive at BMW dealers in the fall of 2012 as a 2013 model year. Get your X1 28i with either sDrive (RWD) or xDrive (AWD) or get the US exclusive I6 N55 powered X1 35i dDrive.

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Old 02-14-2013, 05:18 PM
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I've been told the opposite, that on the sDrive it actually improves the EPS and tightens steering at speed.
Well most of our driving is in city, and didn't want any more electronic steering assistance at regular speeds.. At freeway speeds I can't see it making any difference since you don't really steer much... So maybe on a track it would be noticeable. Truthfully I don't really know.. We don't have it and I think the steering is fine with the RWD
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:12 AM
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My X1 Handles awesome with the M Sport package. but I also have the 35i version so it is basically a little taller 135i and has a little more cargo room. If you are getting the 28i make sure you get the xdrive as it will come with the Hydraulic steering and have a much better feel. if you just get the Sdrive, it will have the electric servo steering and ruin the experience.
The EPS is not so bad that it's worth the extra weigh and ride height of the xDrive IMO. To me, light weight equals better handling and a faster car.
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Old 02-15-2013, 10:01 AM
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The EPS is not so bad that it's worth the extra weigh and ride height of the xDrive IMO. To me, light weight equals better handling and a faster car.
Unfortunately you cannot get the 35i without the xdrive. but My 35i is heavier and faster than the 28i... I will take the extra ponies and awd over the 28i it seems like it was working too hard. the 35i is 12.9 lb/HP... the 28i is 14.69 lb/HP..

In theory you are correct if you are comparing apples to apples... unfortunately this is apples to oranges due to the different powerplant
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Old 02-15-2013, 10:10 AM
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it seems like it was working too hard.
Where'd you get this from? If anything, the N20/26 feels like it has way more to give. Throttle modulation aside, it never feels like it struggles in any way (IMO - and being the owner of one).
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Old 02-15-2013, 10:14 AM
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Where'd you get this from? If anything, the N20/26 feels like it has way more to give. Throttle modulation aside, it never feels like it struggles in any way (IMO - and being the owner of one).
Had one for a week... Thats why I opted for the 35i
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Old 02-15-2013, 10:48 AM
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Where'd you get this from? If anything, the N20/26 feels like it has way more to give. Throttle modulation aside, it never feels like it struggles in any way (IMO - and being the owner of one).
If you have driven the F30 328i you will realize that the 28i in the X1 does struggle in comparison. I purchased the 28i because I wanted the new shifter and lower cost (didn't need servotronic). I came from an E90 335i and the while my BMS Stage 1 tune is an improvement it does not transform the car into a 35i. I am anxiously awaiting BMS Stage 2 because I miss the torque of the 335i. The 28i is competent and fast, it just has to work harder than the 35i.

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Old 02-15-2013, 10:55 AM
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Let me add that the performance of the N20 in my X1 is about equivalent to the N52 in my 128i (due to size/weights). More than competent but don't compare to the N54/N55.
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If you have driven the F30 328i you will realize that the 28i in the X1 does struggle in comparison. I purchased the 28i because I wanted the new shifter and lower cost (didn't need servotronic). I came from an E90 335i and the while my BMS Stage 1 tune is an improvement it does not transform the car into a 35i. I am anxiously awaiting BMS Stage 2 because I miss the torque of the 335i. The 28i is competent and fast, it just has to work harder than the 35i.
I know you like to comment on every thread, about every topic ever brought up... but who's comparing my X1 28i to the F30 328i, the X1 35i or any of your past cars?? I could care less to take a 328i out for a drive, or that the 35i has more torque (which is a given). I could use the same argument about my M Coupe, or the fact that your 335i would have a definite 'struggle' keeping up to my old 500hp SRT-8... but it's completely irrelevant.

I'm talking specifically about the X1 28i with the N20 having lots of headroom as far as the engine is concerned. For what it is - an SUV - it's an extremely capable ride, that doesn't leave me wanting. IMO, it's certainly not "working too hard", especially with the 8spd tranny working things out perfectly.

A conservative BMS piggyback and you're at 5 seconds to 60mph, so that should speak for itself.

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Old 02-17-2013, 12:03 PM
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I know you like to comment on every thread, about every topic ever brought up... but who's comparing my X1 28i to the F30 328i, the X1 35i or any of your past cars?? I could care less to take a 328i out for a drive, or that the 35i has more torque (which is a given). I could use the same argument about my M Coupe, or the fact that your 335i would have a definite 'struggle' keeping up to my old 500hp SRT-8... but it's completely irrelevant.

I'm talking specifically about the X1 28i with the N20 having lots of headroom as far as the engine is concerned. For what it is - an SUV - it's an extremely capable ride, that doesn't leave me wanting. IMO, it's certainly not "working too hard", especially with the 8spd tranny working things out perfectly.

A conservative BMS piggyback and you're at 5 seconds to 60mph, so that should speak for itself.
I agree with you. I have owned three 335i Xdrives, including my present 2013, but for the X1, I have chosen a 2014 Xdrive 28i for a May ED. I have test driven both the 28 & 35 X1s and am totally confident the the 28i will have adequate power. I live in Vermont where we have many two lane roads, and what is critical for me is passing acceleration. The X1 may have to downshift a little more often, but it has plenty of power.
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:23 AM
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Where did you get this? I asked when I was at the dealership. The salesman read out the VIN and told me it was built in Leipzig, Germany.
my X1 was built in Leipzig, Germany,
well assembled, no rattles so far (30000km).
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