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Old 02-23-2013, 08:17 PM
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The boats that carry our cars

If you are ever curious about the boats that carry our cars, check out this ~5minute video. I noticed that the BMW's shown in around minute 3 have a matt finish to them. Does that mean they get painted state side?

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Old 02-23-2013, 08:41 PM
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Great video, although I had to go to YouTube to make it work. BMW's made in Germany are painted in Germany. The matte look you eluded to in your post is condensation from the ship at sea. Take another look and you will notice that the windows are wet as well.

Thanks for sharing. May I suggest you post this in the European Delivery forum? If you don't, I would like to. Many of us who did Europen Delivery spent weeks tracking Willenius Wilhelmsen ships across the Atlantic.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:06 PM
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[QUOTE=Elmanzah;7400783 I noticed that the BMW's shown in around minute 3 have a matt finish to them[/QUOTE]

It might be wax?

"The 7-Series, 5-Series, and 3-Series are all shipped with a thick waxy coating. This coating is removed with a very hot power car wash. The wax is then recovered and separated from the water, and then it is used to fuel the burners that heat the water for the car wash. These cars are waiting to be cleaned."

http://www.northamericanmotoring.com...on-center.html

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Old 02-23-2013, 09:30 PM
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Great video, although I had to go to YouTube to make it work. BMW's made in Germany are painted in Germany. The matte look you eluded to in your post is condensation from the ship at sea. Take another look and you will notice that the windows are wet as well.

Thanks for sharing. May I suggest you post this in the European Delivery forum? If you don't, I would like to. Many of us who did Europen Delivery spent weeks tracking Willenius Wilhelmsen ships across the Atlantic.
Having it in the European Delivery forum sounds like a great idea! Kindly repost :-)

I think like the other post said, the matte finish is the wax the cars come with. I found it interesting how they secure the cars so they don't slam into each other. Just goes to show how violent the Atlantic can be.
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Old 02-24-2013, 12:17 AM
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sounds like the ship then takes off for Asia after the US? Interesting to know the route. I thought different ships were used for destinations half way around the world.
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Old 02-24-2013, 01:16 AM
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sounds like the ship then takes off for Asia after the US? Interesting to know the route. I thought different ships were used for destinations half way around the world.
Interesting article.

"dealer Jun Kubota: His showroom in central Tokyo had its best April in at least three years"

" Kubota wasn't alone. Across the country, as Japanese carmakers reeled from output disruptions following the quake, BMW deliveries surged 56 percent in April,"

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...tput-cars.html

The spots the unloaded BMWs used on the ship are filled with vehicles exported from North American manufacturing plants bound for Asia.

http://www.vcstar.com/news/2012/dec/...se-at-port-of/

On the return trip they will be bring cars from Japan & South Korea headed to the US and Europe.

After dropping off some of those cars for the US market, they will fill those spots with cars built in North Americia bound for Europe.

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Nice find. The cars have protective coating.
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:07 AM
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Nice find. The cars have protective coating.
Thanks.

The protective coating is realy needed as it protects the cars from both the sea air and the ships engine exhausts.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ars-world.html

Sadly! no wax coating on European Re-Delivery cars

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Manon has just left the NY Port after unloading my BMW. I will take delivery on Wed. Finally!
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Manon has just left the NY Port after unloading my BMW. I will take delivery on Wed. Finally!
That's great!!! How do you know it will be Wednesday?
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That's great!!! How do you know it will be Wednesday?
My CA did not even know that the cars were being unloaded or even arrived in NJ. I was checking the WW website and since I live very close to the port, once I saw that the ship was there online, I went there to make sure that it was. lol.
Then I called the dealership and arranged a Wednesday pick-up.
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:22 PM
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I was checking the WW website and since I live very close to the port, once I saw that the ship was there online, I went there to make sure that it was. lol.
That is hilarious! Lol! Congrats. Let us know your driving impressions and please post pics. :-)
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That is hilarious! Lol! Congrats. Let us know your driving impressions and please post pics. :-)
Thanks. Will do. Get ready to see probably the only 535 w/o Xdrive in North East.
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Thanks. Will do. Get ready to see probably the only 535 w/o Xdrive in North East.
Welcome to the club! I'm in the only RWD 550 you'll find around.
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Welcome to the club! I'm in the only RWD 550 you'll find around.
Coolness. Every sales person was amazed when I was getting quotes for a RWD 535 in NJ. They were like "you can't drive in the winter with a RWD here, you HAVE to have an Xdrive!". lol
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Coolness. Every sales person was amazed when I was getting quotes for a RWD 535 in NJ. They were like "you can't drive in the winter with a RWD here, you HAVE to have an Xdrive!". lol
RWD here as well
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Coolness. Every sales person was amazed when I was getting quotes for a RWD 535 in NJ. They were like "you can't drive in the winter with a RWD here, you HAVE to have an Xdrive!". lol
same here.. they told me, "you will have to give a custom order and wait for 2 months coz you are not gonna find an RWD F10 in this part of the country" i said, sure.
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same here.. they told me, "you will have to give a custom order and wait for 2 months coz you are not gonna find an RWD F10 in this part of the country" i said, sure.
According to the dealers, you should not be able to drive in the winter with a RWD. How do you manage that in Cleveland? lol
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RWD here as well
Nice to have a fellow RWD 535 driver in NJ.
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According to the dealers, you should not be able to drive in the winter with a RWD. How do you manage that in Cleveland? lol
i know! its the same question that a few colleagues asked me and i replied, "basic rule is, when it snows, go slow so that you can stop faster"

braking wise, both AWD and RWD behave the same way.. and as far as accelerating goes, I dont have any hills in my commute.
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i know! its the same question that a few colleagues asked me and i replied, "basic rule is, when it snows, go slow so that you can stop faster"

braking wise, both AWD and RWD behave the same way.. and as far as accelerating goes, I dont have any hills in my commute.
Exactly. They are also selling lots of RWD cars and yet they still try to sell you and Xdrive, So if my 535 is impossible to drive in winter, how do you justify the M3, M5, etc? besides, all the cars I owned in germany and rest of Europe were RWD and with dedicated winter tires never had any problems. I might have gone with the XDrive (my Merc and Infiniti are both 4WD) but the "marketing buzz" about 4WD just annoyed me to death.
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Thanks. Lol. Tomorrow I'll be driving her.
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