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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki |
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Fixed your leaking vapor barrier? Don't forget to lift the carpet.
BMW uses a high-density foam backing that is bonded to the E39 carpet. It's a great noise insulator, but it also acts as a giant diaper when the vapor barriers leak.
So, if your rear carpet feels damp to the touch, it's actually saturated with a shocking amount of water that is held within the foam. Once water gets absorbed into the foam, it's impossible to dry without lifting the carpet. There are several bundles of electrical wires under the carpet, so I think it's beneficial to thoroughly dry the foam backing. Start by removing the back seat. Then the rocker trim. It uses a 10mm bolt with 2 push-in fasteners (be gentle.. this piece is brittle) Then I popped off the bottom of the B pillar cover. This allows the carpet to be folded back and lifted up. I've spent over 2 weeks placing absorbent ShamWow towels (made in Germany. You know the Germans make good stuff) under the carpet overnight, wringing the excess water, letting the towels dry, and repeating the process again and again. I've pulled out so much water that it makes me wonder how many electrical problems could be attributed to wet carpets. |
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I think you are right, mine leak and are on my list to fix. I put a piece of aluminum foil on the door jam so it extends inside 3" and under the door 3" then close. I have towels on the floor and they dont appear to get wet any more. I put a dehumidifier in my car overnight on high and in the AM, things are pretty dried out inside... now I need to jump on these, driving me crazy. Did you use the weatherstrip "bead" or 3M Weatherstrip Adhesive (Yellow) approach?
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I purchased a roll of Butyl adhesive (that's what the factory uses) from a local auto body supply company. It sticks like crazy on the door, but I had issues getting a secure bond on some smaller areas of the vapor barrier. I think that the process of removing the barrier, and the old Butyl, slightly delaminated the surface of the barrier. If I ever need to do this again, I'll order new vapor barriers (about $35 each) to insure clean bonding surface.
PS: A quick way to check your vapor barrier is to remove the Puddle Light and stick your finger inside. The panel will be wet in that location if the barrier is leaking. Last edited by Johnny Canada; 06-05-2010 at 07:33 AM. |
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Two things:
1. The Vapor Barrier: I think you can use any thick plastic barrier at hardware store. This is the same stuff people lay on the basement gravel before pouring concrete floor. Make sure you get the thicker plastic type. 2. The butyl roll: I got a roll from a local Auto Glass Repair shop: 15-foot roll for $15. The roll is the same size as the pencil (about 3/16" in diameter). Go to any local Auto Glass Repair shop and ask for it. This butyl stuff was used in American cars from 1970s and 1980s Chevy etc. It looks like this: |
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wowwww..great advice on the vapor barrier,i had the same problem...now i will try this...i will let you guys know how it came out.......2002 530i......
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I usually take the carpet completely out, pressure wash it to remove the odor, and dry it in a paint booth oven. Always works like a charm.
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The E46 crowd is having trouble finding the right sealant according to this post today:
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Anyone tried this:
I heard really good things about it. Seems like the windows shop have it. (3M 08609) I also found it on Amazon
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Why not just use regular old silicone caulking?
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Silicone makes a more permanent bond and you want to avoid that in order to reuse the vapor barrier.
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