H&R RACE Springs

Originally Posted by chivas

left is sport, right is race
both for E39

Wrong!

50464 is what I have and they are definitely sport springs, NOT race. Dark, metallic blue, same model #, etc.

Originally Posted by RedButtedMonkey

Wrong!

50464 is what I have and they are definitely sport springs, NOT race. Dark, metallic blue, same model #, etc.

then what's the one on the left????? eh??? confused

Well I'll be damned!!!! OK, for a second, try to ignore the fact that everyone thinks a sport/no sport application are the same when it comes to aftermarket springs.

It appears that there is some confusion afoot (on my part and others)!

When you go to the H&R website and you look up springs for the 540i sport application, they list the 50464 springs (what I purchased). In fact, it says this:

Stage - Sport Spring
Chassis / Drivetrain - E39
Notes - not touring
Approx. Front Lowering - .75"
Approx. Rear Lowering - .6"
Part Number - 50464

Now, here's where it gets interesting. When you look up a 540i (non-sport), here's what you get:

Stage - Sport Spring
Chassis / Drivetrain - E39
Notes - no sport sus
Approx. Front Lowering - 1.3"
Approx. Rear Lowering - .75"
Part Number - 29764

Stage - Race Spring
Chassis / Drivetrain - E39
Notes - not touring, no sport sus
Approx. Front Lowering - 1.7"
Approx. Rear Lowering - 1.2"
Part Number - 50464-88


Mine don't say -88. I wouldn't even wonder about that if the fact that the Sport springs for the 'non sport 540' weren't listed as 29764 and the pics show an obvious height difference (thanks for the pics btw).

Judging by your pics Dan, I'm inclined to think that there really is a difference between springs for the sport and non-sport applications. Chris with understeer thinks so too. Sorry to get your panties in a wad Franka - I know you're getting ready to blast me.

Originally Posted by RedButtedMonkey

Well I'll be damned!!!! OK, for a second, try to ignore the fact that everyone thinks a sport/no sport application are the same when it comes to aftermarket springs.

It appears that there is some confusion afoot (on my part and others)!

When you go to the H&R website and you look up springs for the 540i sport application, they list the 50464 springs (what I purchased). In fact, it says this:

Stage - Sport Spring
Chassis / Drivetrain - E39
Notes - not touring
Approx. Front Lowering - .75"
Approx. Rear Lowering - .6"
Part Number - 50464

Now, here's where it gets interesting. When you look up a 540i (non-sport), here's what you get:

Stage - Sport Spring
Chassis / Drivetrain - E39
Notes - no sport sus
Approx. Front Lowering - 1.3"
Approx. Rear Lowering - .75"
Part Number - 29764

Stage - Race Spring
Chassis / Drivetrain - E39
Notes - not touring, no sport sus
Approx. Front Lowering - 1.7"
Approx. Rear Lowering - 1.2"
Part Number - 50464-88


Mine don't say -88. I wouldn't even wonder about that if the fact that the Sport springs for the 'non sport 540' weren't listed as 29764 and the pics show an obvious height difference (thanks for the pics btw).

Judging by your pics Dan, I'm inclined to think that there really is a difference between springs for the sport and non-sport applications. Chris with understeer thinks so too. Sorry to get your panties in a wad Franka - I know you're getting ready to blast me.

Basically what I want to know is which ones do i buy. I have 2002 BMW 540i with sport package. Therefore I have the sport suspension from BMW and a bit of a lower drop then the standard 540i. So do i buy the sport suspension 50464 (the first one listed) or the race which some people said has the same drop as the sport for the sport models... if that makes any sense. Help would be appreciated. Thanks

Originally Posted by G-Moussa

Basically what I want to know is which ones do i buy. I have 2002 BMW 540i with sport package. Therefore I have the sport suspension from BMW and a bit of a lower drop then the standard 540i. So do i buy the sport suspension 50464 (the first one listed) or the race which some people said has the same drop as the sport for the sport models... if that makes any sense. Help would be appreciated. Thanks

You definitely want the 50464. It'll sit perfect.

I also have the blue one on my 528i, and I am happy with the drop and ride. With non sport shock.

Originally Posted by G-Moussa

Basically what I want to know is which ones do i buy. I have 2002 BMW 540i with sport package. Therefore I have the sport suspension from BMW and a bit of a lower drop then the standard 540i. So do i buy the sport suspension 50464 (the first one listed) or the race which some people said has the same drop as the sport for the sport models... if that makes any sense. Help would be appreciated. Thanks

Here's my '00 540 sport with the 50464 springs. The front drop is more than what H&R has listed on their literature. The front drops about 1.5" and the rear about 1/4". I'm using Koni FSD's.
The fender arch is at the top of the tire on the front and rear. They are about 15% stiffer than the OEM sport springs, the ride is not jarring at all.

Originally Posted by RedButtedMonkey

You definitely want the 50464. It'll sit perfect.

Amazing thank you, I just wanted to know if this was the one for a 540i already with stock sport suspension. Also you think these will work on my sport 540i with 19" wheels? Hopefully it won't rub my fender

Originally Posted by JimLev

Here's my '00 540 sport with the 50464 springs. The front drop is more than what H&R has listed on their literature. The front drops about 1.5" and the rear about 1/4". I'm using Koni FSD's.
The fender arch is at the top of the tire on the front and rear. They are about 15% stiffer than the OEM sport springs, the ride is not jarring at all.

That looks sick. Just what I'm looking for. I want a nice low stance and something that will handle on turns better. I also want to make sure these will work with my 19" wheels in my signature. Hopefully it won't be too much of a drop

Originally Posted by JimLev

i think it looks lower in person

Originally Posted by G-Moussa

That looks sick. Just what I'm looking for. I want a nice low stance and something that will handle on turns better. I also want to make sure these will work with my 19" wheels in my signature. Hopefully it won't be too much of a drop

The fit will depend on the aspect ratio of your tires. My tires are ~25.3" in diameter.
Your sidwalls should be shorter than mine so your diameter should be close to mine.
My tires are PS2's, fronts 235/45/zr17, rears 265/40/zr17.

Originally Posted by NoWayJose

i think it looks lower in person

Hi Jose, see you changed your sig.

My sports were gray. H&R sport with OEM non-sport shocks.

I did the complete suspension front and back on my 01 Sport. Went with the H&R Sport when I did it. Since I did everything at once I really can't say what kind of diff the springs made in regards to stiffness. The back dropped about a 1/2 inch compared to the original sport spring. The front dropped a little over an inch. It accomplished what I wanted which was dropping the front to match the back.

Here's a side by side comparison of the H&R(L) & OEM(R). Scared me at first.

Got my bills sport today, put them in with the h&r, not much of a drop.

Originally Posted by jbonly21

Got my bills sport today, put them in with the h&r, not much of a drop.

let them settle for about two days, if not check install

Originally Posted by JimLev

Hi Jose, see you changed your sig.

to match my license plate

Just installed My H&R Race Springs today an I love the way it sits now! Perfect and as of right now haven't noticed much of a ride difference! Love them!!!!

Love the drop I am running the stock non sport shock up front, and bills sports in the rear.