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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 03-17-2013, 02:42 PM
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I'm looking to replace both headlight assembly due to the lense being so cloudy even after trying wet sanding and polishing product like the 3m kit. Since I have the facelift ones lense are harder to replace then preface lift. I'm looking for the European headlight styles oem with amber reflector eliminated similar to the ones below. Anyone know a place where to purchase them?
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Old 03-17-2013, 03:59 PM
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I haven't done the work but people have replaced just the lenses ...
- Replacing just the headlight lens (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7)
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Old 03-18-2013, 09:15 PM
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OEM headlights= big money each light 600.00 I may just consider going after market instead, what are there pros and cons on these aftermarket ones? Are the AE bulbs and lights similar to oem or not?
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OEM headlights= big money each light 600.00 I may just consider going after market instead, what are there pros and cons on these aftermarket ones? Are the AE bulbs and lights similar to oem or not?
With replacement lights you pretty much get what you pay for. OEM lights are crazy expensive and yeah the technology is a little dated. But keep in mind if you want aftermarket lights with good AEs and good projectors you are going to spend a good amount of money too. I am not saying buy OEM or buy really expensive aftermarket lights. But don't expect to spend a ton less money and get good quality lights and excellent light output.

There are a ton of threads on lights that will give you all the information you need on pros and cons of various aftermarket light combos. But here is a little info to get you started.

DJ autos seems to be the preferred aftermarket light, but I believe their AE quality/or brightness is not so great and I have heard the projectors are not that great.

Upgrades to the DJ auto AEs and projectors are available. You can buy parts and DIY or buy from Umnitza who will do the work for you.

If you have OEM xenon lights you should be able sell them on ebay or the forums to help offset the cost of new lights. Provided your lights are the ones that can be opened with heat(oven or heat gun) you should be able to get a couple hundred for them. Chances are someone else will swap out the lens' or use the lights for parts. Do a search to see what people have sold lights for/ value lights at in the past. If you have halogens you can still probably sell them just for less than the xenons.

If you do decide to go with OEM use http://www.furiousmethod.com/ to get the best price. IIRC you may be able to get the price down to $900-$1,000.
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I'm looking to replace both headlight assembly due to the lense being so cloudy even after trying wet sanding and polishing product like the 3m kit.
If they are still cloudy, you didn't sand them enough. It's your money and I don't want to tell you what to do with it but those headlamps are still good. You need to start with a 220 or 400 grit to remove the pits. And you need to apply pressure. The sanding motion should be in one direction only. Then work your way up, one grit at a time to 4000. There should be at least six grits. Then polish. Each headlamp should take you 3-4 hours to complete. If your arm isn't about to fall off, then you aren't sanding long enough. In your case, you might be able to redo the process using a higher grit (800?). Or you can spend $1,200 on new headlamps and save some work. Your choice.
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Old 03-19-2013, 05:57 AM
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Headlights were sanded with the 3m kit twice and I still didn't see not change could be light lense are to old. Spend quit a while sanding still seem like it won't get better
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Headlights were sanded with the 3m kit twice and I still didn't see not change could be light lense are to old. Spend quit a while sanding still seem like it won't get better
Just out of curiosity did you use the hand sanding kit or the power drill kit? The power drill kit is quicker but if your lights are very scratched and pitted the little discs can get clogged up/worn out somewhat quickly.

Are your lens' remaining hazy like pic 2 or do they look more like pic 1?

If you have a hand sand kit the polish phase can be tough/take a very long time. The drill kit makes the polish step much quicker. Also the 3M Trizact disc makes the transition from sanding to polishing much easier. My lights looked clear (with very tiny micro scratches) after the Trizact disc versus being hazy with scratched after the sanding phases. Much closer to the 1st pic than the 2nd pic.

Also several people have gotten their lights clear coated as a final step. They claim their lights come out crystal clear as the clear coat fills int he scratches. I forget what the correct steps are prior to the clear coat, but if you search you should find it. Might be something to think about if you have some pesky deep scratches

Also in case you are unaware you can get new euro style clear corner lens'. Schmiedmann is one source and Umnitza also has them from time to time [from what I understand they are just DJ auto lens']. I only brought this up because you mentioned the lens' are hard to change so if you were not bothering with changing the lens' b/c they are somewhat time consuming plus you want clear corners and could not find them.
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In what year were the euro xenon angle lights oem ones first introduce? And last year they were available for the e39 model
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Euro xenon headlights have been around since 1998, but 2001 they came with AE.
We've been selling Euro xenons since 2002.
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