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Old 03-19-2013, 08:36 PM
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E34 Drifting - set up's , mod's , parts, strategy & video's..

I have been doing a little drifting lately and am looking to taylor the car to it a bit more..

My 95 540i /6 - I've done a few mod's, extra wheels/tires and have plenty of power, got a decent size steering wheel and am hunting down an LSD so i can really hold/combine my drifts without going super fast!

Idk How to adjust my hand brake if any one wants to chime in..

Who else drifts there e34, what have you done to make it better? what do you like?


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Old 03-20-2013, 01:30 AM
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I have been doing a little drifting lately and am looking to taylor the car to it a bit more..

My 95 540i /6 - I've done a few mod's, extra wheels/tires and have plenty of power, got a decent size steering wheel and am hunting down an LSD so i can really hold/combine my drifts without going super fast!

Idk How to adjust my hand brake if any one wants to chime in..

Who else drifts there e34, what have you done to make it better? what do you like?


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i thought all 540i had an LSD standard.

E34 is a heavy car to take drifting, but they are very easy to control. but i dont know that the V8 will have enough power to hold it long enough, i think you would find it easier if it was supercharged
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Old 03-20-2013, 06:10 AM
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i thought all 540i had an LSD standard.

E34 is a heavy car to take drifting, but they are very easy to control. but i dont know that the V8 will have enough power to hold it long enough, i think you would find it easier if it was supercharged
540i did not come with LSD. Mine has one from a 750i (3.10) Wife might make me sell my e34 if so I'll be looking to sell my LSD. I guess she'll be deciding in a few days I'll keep you posted
Now that I think about it a 3.10 might not be the best ratio for drifting
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Old 03-20-2013, 06:18 AM
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Practice practice practice. thats the first thing you need to do. I dont know your skill level but a driver who is has very high levels of car control can drift anything built in any fashion. Once you drift the car as it is now seemlessly, then you can build to perform better
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:05 AM
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540i did not come with LSD. Mine has one from a 750i (3.10) Wife might make me sell my e34/ if so I'll be looking to sell my LSD. I guess she'll be deciding in a few days I'll keep you posted
Now that I think about it a 3.10 might not be the best ratio for drifting
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what you have is the s3.15 LSD.. very common upgrade fir manual 540i.. i was unlucky enough to end up with a 540i /6 built in 9/95 without ASC or LSD..

i had one lined up 200$ but the guy screwed me..

im looking for the more rare 3.46 LSD from the e32 750 now.. ideal is about 3.25/3.38 and i like being a little overboard!

I can drift my car fine as is.. i do it in the rain currently to not murder my car to much.. makes me really happy when it rains,haha

i can hold drifts, switch, combine them its just low speed drift's and low angle drift/switchbacks one tire will hook between drifts even if its only for a second..

this ruins the feeling of one continuous drift.. even if it looked like one.. GAY


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Old 03-20-2013, 12:13 PM
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VIDEO'S - MY FAVORITE E34 / DRIFT VIDS

#1 THIS MAN IS JUST CRAZY! LOT OF SKILL, NO REGARD FOR OTHER PEOPLES SAFTY..

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#2 MOST POWERFUL E34 IVE SEEN - 1200HP TURBO S38


#3 FUN DRIFTING E34'S ON THE TRACK




what do you guys like to watch?


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Old 03-20-2013, 04:39 PM
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Facepalm again! THAT GUY IN RUSSIA IS A FREAKING IDIOT! I think I can speak for everyone when I ask that you take that off this forum.
We've got 15yr old members and they don't need to see stupidity like that.
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Old 03-21-2013, 06:52 AM
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+1 those ilegal drifting vids aren't good to post.

This is one of my favorites. Not because its an M5, but because this guy has some of the best car control i've seen.


If you want to discuss technique we can do that. When i used to drift i used my Z so its a little different (weight, power, wheelbase, etc) but never in any of my drifitng days did i ever "rip the e" (pulled up on the emergency brake to initiate a slide.

I always used a "power over" style. I would drive forward into a the area i wanted to drift and flick the wheel to transfer the weight over and, in a while being at high revs, not high speed, punch the gas to throw the end out. The weight rolling to one side and the power increase at once allowed for a very easy drift.
Then i would hold the angle and feather the throttle just enough to keep wheels loose and maintain steering control. if it starts to go too far out, just back off the gas slightly, do NOT brake or let off the gas entirely as this will cause the car to snap back.

Donuts are not drifts btw. You should be able to keep a car going around a wide circle at a steady angle. Then you can work in tranferring corners.
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:42 PM
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#2 MOST POWERFUL E34 IVE SEEN - 1200HP TURBO S38
he's selling his car on bf.c


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#3 FUN DRIFTING E34'S ON THE TRACK

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what do you guys like to watch?
Thought you'd never ask.


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The proper way to do innercity drifting.
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:53 PM
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Yess Ken Block is so sick! I get goosebumps everytime I watch that.
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:56 PM
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Yess Ken Block is so sick! I get goosebumps everytime I watch that.
Yessir. Even though I'm not a fan of the badge. That lil' car has some for that arse.
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:19 PM
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Im not convinced that is the best gymkohona thought.. What about the other's?
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:57 PM
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:13 PM
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What not the best? Have you ever been to S.F?
That part on the barge was so damn boss. No room for error, one false move and ken's in the bottom of the very cold bay.
Also the part where he jumps side ways and powers out of slamming into the curb.
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Old 03-22-2013, 02:15 AM
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Yeah that slide/jump/turn/slide about 5:50 in is awesome.. Oh to be a millionaire and be able to close a city down so you can play..!! If I had his money I'd still be in an E34.. Only it would be a 1 of a kind 3.8 M5, built from scratch!!

Amazing that as good a pilot Block is, when he's put against world champions like Sebastian Loeb he can't even place in a rally.. Just goes to show how good Loeb is... Even tho I hate the frog!!

Was always a McRae man myself..

Watch McRae v Pastrana in the x-games before he died, f**kin' awesome..!!
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Old 03-24-2013, 04:39 PM
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The question no one is asking is how serious are you about drifting. Is this a weekend thing or do you want to compete. In either case drifting is about steering angle maximising rear end grip and of course power, so those are the things you need to improve. Chassis stifness is also a significant concern as is power to weight. Starting with 3400lbs puts you at a disadvantage but these cars aren't Honda they are BMW.

If your serious do the following
Drivertrain: spool or welded diff. One BMW has don't have enough torque biasing to be competitive. There are companies that can modify the diff to make it look up more but that mod is pretty expensive.

Tires you need em wide and grippy with minimum compliance (ie how much they flex when loaded. 18s would e where I'd start. 8-9 inch rims get the biggest your budget can afford

Suspension: drifting is all about steering angle. Cut your wheel wells. You'll probably need to fabricate your own tie rods since I don't know any company that makes a set for extra angle. Camber plates are of course a must.or go straight to kW coilovers.

Power you don't have enough and with drifting u never have enough lol

Chassis rigidity and setup. Get a proper rollcage, check your class rules to see if you can tie the suspension pick up points in with the cage. Some classes won't allow that.

If you are doing this for the weekend.
Suspension: swaybars, camber plates, fcp gorton suspension control arms kit, and some blistein shocks with hr springs. For rims don't go over 18s more compliance will give you a more comfortable ride.

Power wise the stock engine is enough. Get a stronger clutch and light flywheel.

Drive train, get a BMW LSD that setup should be all u need

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Old 03-24-2013, 05:15 PM
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Oh one more thing notice I was purposely vague on power mods that's because those decisions re power band and delivery are based on what the driver wants. Its hard to recommend a setup that will work for u everyone is different. Me for example in a light car I like high reving engines. In a chassis like the e34 a lower reving v8 would be where I'd go. If i did a Turbo conversion I'd run a mhi td0620g that Turbo is considered punny for most people but it would give me the power band I like. I.e. instant and broad.

Anyway what ever route u go make sure it includes a dry sump conversion. That's an absolute must in any serious race car. And yes competative drifting is racing.

Final and most importantly even if you're just doing this as a hobby make sure you have a relaible back up car. It doesnt matter what it is get a cheap 1000.00 car off craigslist. this car will be to get you to work on monday WHEN you wreck your car or break some parts. with any form of motorsports this isnt a question of if but when. its just a fact of racing or enthusiastic driving, you need to be prepared to lose your car/ life at anytime if you really want to win.

It took me years to come to that realiization and thousands of dollars down the drain. not to mention time wasted waiting for the bus to get to work,and jobs lost for getting to work late, due to buses not showing up on time, or miles walked when i missed the bus altogether or when they decide to change the schedule without notice. dont make my mistake of trying to build a "fast daily driver" with no back up car

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