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X5 E70 (2007 - 2013)
E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 03-24-2013, 11:05 PM
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Can someone post pics of the underbody below the engine/front bumper (front hitch)

Hey guys, I might be looking to get the E70 not far from now. Will need this custom-designed front-mounted hitch for a bike rack to be possible on the X5....

Can someone do me a favour and post some pics of the underbody below the front bumper (unless it is all covered up with protective shields)? Are there any appropriate solid metal parts that could do the job? A heads-up on the work I will have to perform would be nice.

Check this out to get the idea of what I am talking about***********:

http://www.mdxers.org/forums/73-2001...bike-rack.html
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Old 03-25-2013, 01:08 AM
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Odd. Not legal in the us.

Amazed if it is legal in ca.

The underside of the x is clad with plastic panels, butvill bet between parts drawing (realoem, etc) you can get an idea...
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:11 AM
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What happened to the plans to get the MY '14 X5?
Just had a look at the pictures, no way that is legal. I look forward to reading your stories of your OPP encounter
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:32 AM
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Legal in many US states. Still plans for the X5, as stated above. Not for two years though.

Some guys I have read about in fact went to the state troopers to double check and were told that as long as driver's view is not obstructed, it's perfectly fine.
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:41 AM
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Legal in many US states. Still plans for the X5, as stated above. Not for two years though.

Some guys I have read about in fact went to the state troopers to double check and were told that as long as driver's view is not obstructed, it's perfectly fine.
HTA Section 62.7 http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/sta...08_e.htm#BK116

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Attachment that affects lamps prohibited

(7) No person shall drive upon a highway a motor vehicle if either or both of the lamps that are required on the front of the vehicle by subsections (1), (2) and (3),

(a) are coated or covered with a coloured material; or

(b) have been modified by the attachment to the lamps or the motor vehicle of any device that reduces the effective area of the lenses or the intensity of the beam of the lamps. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 19 (1).
In addition, section 11.3

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Obstruction prohibited

(3) The number plates shall not be obstructed by any device that prevents the entire number plates including the numbers from being accurately photographed using a photo-radar system. 1993, c. 31, s. 2 (5).

Same

(3.0.1) The number plates shall not be obstructed by any device that prevents the entire number plates including the numbers from being accurately photographed using a red light camera system. 1998, c. 38, s. 2 (1).

Same

(3.1) The number plates shall not be obstructed by any device or material that prevents the entire number plates including the numbers from being identified by an electronic toll system. 1996, c. 1, Sched. E, s. 2 (1).

Offence

(4) Every person who contravenes subsection (2), (3), (3.0.1) or (3.1) is guilty of an offence. 1993, c. 31, s. 2 (5); 1996, c. 1, Sched. E, s. 2 (2); 1998, c. 38, s. 2 (2).
I will say that carrying bikes in front violates both of those. Because one cop is okay with something doesn't mean you won't get cited by another. You know the OPP's reputation
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Old 03-25-2013, 08:45 AM
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OK, thanks. I already know of two ways to make good on the aforementioned legal requirements.

If there's anyone who can post the pics of the underbody, pls shoot. Not pun intended LOL
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:08 AM
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Probably not going to give you the view you need but it's a start
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...iage-pics.html
Try searching for DIY oil change, maybe someone posted pics with a better view of the front.
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:22 AM
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Why not rear mounted?
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:39 AM
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^^ He's towing a very big boat,
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Old 03-25-2013, 10:17 AM
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Some guys I have read about in fact went to the state troopers to double check and were told that as long as driver's view is not obstructed, it's perfectly fine.
Duh.

Unless you mount the bikes UNDER the drivers TOTAL vision, they in fact will obstruct the view. AND anthing obstructing headlights or running lights is also illegal.

The pictures of your mdx (member over there since 2001...) show an install that DOES obstruct the drivers view.

Why not put them on the boat????
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Old 03-25-2013, 11:06 AM
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Probably not going to give you the view you need but it's a start
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...iage-pics.html
Try searching for DIY oil change, maybe someone posted pics with a better view of the front.
Clever idea, thanks!
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Old 03-25-2013, 11:24 AM
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Why not rear mounted?
Tongue weight?
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Looks like front mount hitch is pretty common. You can do a quick hitch lookup on this trailer manufacturer site, lists several makes that take a front hitch. My example is for a Toyota 4Runner. Learn something new everyday....

http://www.curtmfg.com/HitchLookup/f...+Trail+Edition
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:47 PM
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If you must have it in the front, why not utilize the two tow fitings in the front. You can buy two extra tow rings from the dealer, cut off the rings and fabricate a rack to hold your bikes, that attaches using the thread in bolts/fittings you just made out of the tow rings. Best part, it would be easily removable without any mods to the car.
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Old 03-25-2013, 08:32 PM
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got a picture of those tow fittings?
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:48 PM
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Looks like front mount hitch is pretty common. You can do a quick hitch lookup on this trailer manufacturer site, lists several makes that take a front hitch. My example is for a Toyota 4Runner. Learn something new everyday....

http://www.curtmfg.com/HitchLookup/f...+Trail+Edition
I've seen a front hitch used for moving trailers around, boat loading, carrying a generator down low or a winch.... Yes, folks will put stuff there. But the issue of blocking vision, lights, signals is unavoidable with bikes.

"not getting ticketed" is different that 'is it legal'. And while a hitch per se may be legal, the question to ask police is 'will driving around with 5 bikes stacked in front of my license plate, turn signals and headlights- as well as obscuring my view of the 12 feet in front of me- result in me getting cited?'

Airflow is another question- will it impact engine and trans cooling? Especially in a towing situation? I suppose one could say "I'll monitor the temp gauge"..but...oh.
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Old 03-25-2013, 10:14 PM
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All good questions... The plate will go on the front-most bike. Additional headlamps will be installed too, like these: http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...0093_200590093

The view is really not obstructed at all. I know it's hard to tell from the pics, but visibility is excellent. No impact on safety unless some cop wants to be a major ass of course (and prevent me from finishing my relatively short 3-hr trip... it's not like I'd be driving like this 365 days a year around town for no good reason).

Funny how this thread turned into a legal discussion. It's good to secure as many bases as possible so I suppose there is some benefit to that, too. And in the end... I will most likely miss out on the E70 anyway so my original question is moot to begin with... I will probably end up with the F15 in about 2 yrs time.
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