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Old 04-04-2013, 12:21 AM
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offsets help

hi all im having a bit of trouble of understanding offsets from what i can see this should fit with no spacers possibly no guard rolling pending how low i go

but this has been a weakness of my car knowledge area

i have coil overs and i have 19" rims to fit to my e36 prior machining the the hub centers i just want to confirm fitment

old bore center 65mm obviously needs to be machined to fit the bmw hub they are holden rims

225 x 35 x 19 new tyre size

my new rims
SIZE: 19 x 8
PCD: 5 / 120
OFFSET: + 48


old rims

BMW Wheels
Size: 15x7 front and 15x7 rear
Bolt Pattern:5 x 120
Offset:47mm front and 47mm rear

i know most people will argue 17s are the best but when you get 19s for free why not? aye otherwise 18s would of been my preferred size

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Old 04-04-2013, 12:49 AM
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48mm offset is too high, you'll need spacers, like 10mm at least. And likely a good fender roll. I don't believe 48 is correct for that OEM spec, but if so, it would work because it's a narrower wheel. The extra inch width combined with the high offset will having you rubbing the hell out of the shocks and struts.


You're not really getting the wheels for free. You have to pay to have them machined, roll and pull your fenders, get spacers, and extended lugs. At that point, you may as well take the wheels and sell them, and if you add the cash you made from selling them with the cash you'd have spent to make them fit you could get some wheels that will actually look good. 19's will look absolutely atrocious on an E36 unless you like the matchbox car look.
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:14 AM
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so 47mm offset (bmw)rims to a 48mm (holden)rims offset will cause a need to warrant 10mm spacers how? excuse my ignorance this is where i dont understand sorry why im asking online for help !!

doesnt really give an answer question just slamming me with your opinions i feel

expected this with asking about bmw with wheels over 17" although i seen many with much larger wheels on here and around would love to here from there opinion on fitment

i admit some look like crap with large rims and some look good everyones opinions and likings are different if we could stay on topic please about fitment not personal opinions

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Old 04-04-2013, 01:28 AM
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so 47mm offset (bmw)rims to a 48mm (holden)rims offset will cause a need to warrant 10mm spacers how? excuse my ignorance this is where i dont understand sorry why im asking online for help !!
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I don't believe 48 is correct for that OEM spec, but if so, it would work because it's a narrower wheel. The extra inch width combined with the high offset will having you rubbing the hell out of the shocks and struts.
To recap:
A) I don't believe the spec you have quoted for the BMW wheel is correct. OEM spec should be right about +40
B) The extra inch of width causes your wheel to be even closer to the shock/strut.
C) 19's mean you're closer to the spring perch and the tire may end up rubbing it even at +40 total offset.

48mm with a 10mm spacer puts you at about +38 total offset, which is closer to the OEM specs and puts you further from the shocks and suspension bits. Y

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doesnt really give an answer question just slamming me with your opinions i feel

expected this with asking about bmw with wheels over 17" although i seen many with much larger wheels on here and around would love to here from there opinion on fitment

i admit some look like crap with large rims and some look good everyones opinions and likings are different if we could stay on topic please about fitment not personal opinions

thanks
There's not much opinion in my post, most of it was simply the facts. A bit of opinion, but you have to expect that.


Edit, if you're not familiar with the concept of offset, check out the Wheel & Tyre Bible, tons of great info.
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Old 04-04-2013, 02:07 AM
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that was the information i got from a seller selling the exact rims i have already on the car stock 15"

my ride bmw 320i 1992 e36

if this helps

sorry i felt being attacked still trying to get used to public forums lol its hard trying to interrupt what one says from a keyboard compared to in person my apologies again

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Old 04-04-2013, 02:42 AM
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here is a pic of my rim if im reading this correct

its 7 inch wide, 15 inch in diamter, and 47 offset is this correct
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Old 04-04-2013, 11:07 AM
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Yes, that's correct. The problem lies with adding 4" in diameter and 1" in width when trying to fit your 19" x 8" Holden wheels. That puts the tire closer (MUCH closer) to the strut and spring perch. It's gonna rub, if you can even get them bolted up.

How 'bout some pictures of these wheels? We may like them so well we tell you to go ahead and do what's need to fit them. Or not.
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Old 04-04-2013, 11:12 AM
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I don't believe the spec you have quoted for the BMW wheel is correct. OEM spec should be right about +40
I believe Those are style 6's, and the OEM specs on 7 x 15 style 6 is 47 offset.
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so 47mm offset (bmw)rims to a 48mm (holden)rims offset will cause a need to warrant 10mm spacers how? excuse my ignorance this is where i dont understand sorry why im asking online for help !!

doesnt really give an answer question just slamming me with your opinions i feel

expected this with asking about bmw with wheels over 17" although i seen many with much larger wheels on here and around would love to here from there opinion on fitment

i admit some look like crap with large rims and some look good everyones opinions and likings are different if we could stay on topic please about fitment not personal opinions

thanks
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that was the information i got from a seller selling the exact rims i have already on the car stock 15"

my ride bmw 320i 1992 e36

if this helps

sorry i felt being attacked still trying to get used to public forums lol its hard trying to interrupt what one says from a keyboard compared to in person my apologies again
Thank goodness we can't interrupt each other here. Nothing would ever get done!

Chad gave you a nice chunk of truth. The experienced gang lurking here in the E36 subforum are highly skeptical to you fitting the 19x8 wheels to your E36. Nothing is impossible, but some things are a waste of time and money. I think Chad's advice (opinion!) to sell the 19s and get BMW wheels that fit the car is good advice.

That's just it, though, advice. Take it or leave it.

That being said, why not just try to put them on the car? Show us all wrong. This could be the first of many 19x8 wheel threads in this subforum, and you'd be a pioneer!

Oh, and read this.

Good luck, either way.
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Old 04-04-2013, 03:22 PM
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here is a pic of the wheels imo i think there actaully not bad for a factory rim

i done a semi test fit to see if everything clears on the rear touch wood everything has
i just wanted to know before i got the centers bored out to 72.6mm

im still waiting for my d2 coilovers to arrive so i can semi test fit the front
it only just touches the bottom of the strut thats on there atm (bilsteins) but in saying that the tyres are still 245 40 19 not the intended 225 35 19 this would make a difference to the overal height

just want to ensure im 110% right before i proceed i like the wheels them selves and would love to get them to fit im not one who likes 30 spoke rims or big dish these rim suits my taste

thanks to everyone who have replied
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It's a risk, but I think it looks good.

I wouldn't give my stamp of approval on this unless you can get them machined out for free. Even then, that might make them useless to the Holden world, so it's a risk. It depends on how adventurous you're feeling.
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thanks mate $20 per wheel i can get them done for still keen to proceed just wish they had of been 18s though
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