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E82 / E88 1 Series (2008 - 2013)
BMWs throw back to the iconic 2002, with a renewed form and function. The smallest car in BMW's line up but still packs a punch. Available in coupe or convertible, powered by either an inline 6 in the 128 or the twin turbo rocket sled 135.

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Old 04-02-2013, 08:04 AM
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Considering a 2013 128i but have a few questions..

My wife and I test drove a 128i and felt it was the right size car for us (Mainly her car though.. I will drive my current ride during work days..)

I then started researching on the car and came to know of this forum. Below are some questions I hope fellow members can help answer. (Thanks in advance!)

1) it seems like the 1 series is getting canned for the 2 series soon? Is that true?
2) If 1 is true, does that affect resale value of the 1 series
3) We are not interested in ED and would like to get the car soon, but none in my region fit the requirements we have. Is it easy to buy from neighboring state and drive it back?
4) Is DCT going to be a lot better than an straight up auto car?

Just to add, I don't mind a used or a CPO one but the car has to have comfort access which is turning out harder to find...

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Old 04-02-2013, 08:34 AM
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The 2 series is identical to current one with minor cosmetic changes plus the new 128i would have the new 4 cyl engine, can't answer on the resale value of the vehicle and don't think 128i comes with DCT option, this option only available on 135i & 135is. DCT tranny is much smoother and quicker than current 6 spds.Have you look at Steve Thomas BMW for inventories?
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Old 04-02-2013, 09:25 AM
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My wife and I test drove a 128i and felt it was the right size car for us (Mainly her car though.. I will drive my current ride during work days..)

I then started researching on the car and came to know of this forum. Below are some questions I hope fellow members can help answer. (Thanks in advance!)

1) it seems like the 1 series is getting canned for the 2 series soon? Is that true?
2) If 1 is true, does that affect resale value of the 1 series
3) We are not interested in ED and would like to get the car soon, but none in my region fit the requirements we have. Is it easy to buy from neighboring state and drive it back?
4) Is DCT going to be a lot better than an straight up auto car?

Just to add, I don't mind a used or a CPO one but the car has to have comfort access which is turning out harder to find...
1.yes
2.it should in a good way i would think
3. i wouldn't say easy but depends on how good the dealer you buy it from is.it isn't impossible just takes planning
4.no it doesn't
yea its hard finding these cars with options outside of the standard crap they have on these cars unfortunately
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Old 04-02-2013, 09:52 AM
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Thanks for inputs guys! is the new 128 with turbo 4 going to be better (or more performant) than the current engine?
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Old 04-02-2013, 11:49 AM
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My stable includes a '13 328ix with the 2L turbo four and a '13 128i with the 3L N/A six, so I can offer a fairly direct comparison.

In short, I would say that most drivers would find the 2L turbo four faster than the 3L N/A six. A quick check found 0-60 mph figures of 5.5 for the 328i and 6.1 for the 128i, even though the 328i weighs about 125 lb.s more.

Beyoned the numbers, there is the character of the power. Being turbocharged, and the turbocharging designed for a broad power range (rated torque occurs at only 1250 RPM), the turbo four feels like it has power everywhere (which it does). The naturally aspirated six, on the other hand, while having good low and mid-range torque, needs to rev to get into its power band. Many like the revvy nature of the six, but in normal driving, when you apply the accelerator, the turbo four will feel and be faster.
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:29 PM
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A few more details-
-The 1 series isn't being "Canned" per se. It will exist in the rest of the world as a hatchback. BMW is changing their naming strategy so that odd numbers mean wagons/sedans/hatches and even numbers mean coupes or "gran coupes".
-The 2 series will be based on the F20 1 series which is currently availbale in the rest of the world. You can get a good idea of what to expect in terms of performance, interior, etc by taking a look at reviews for the M135i and 125i (close, slightly detuned version of the turbo 4 engine we get in the f30 328i)
-Suffice to say, it's a complete redesign that has more in common with the current f30 3 series than it does with the current e82 1 series. Expect little if anything to carry over.
-the 2 biggest wildcards in my opinion are the steering (it will be electric instead of the much beloved hydraulic in the current 1 series coupe) and the styling (could be better or worse--though the f20).
-If the idea of turbo cars appeals to you, and you like the tuning possibilities and can wait it coudn't hurt. My strategy is to wait to see the officual unveiling which will likely still be before the current 1 series goes out of production in november. If I hate it, i may snap up one of the last e82s.

Some quick googling yielded these links that you may want to take a look at:
-F20 125i review:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/1-s...w-125i-m-sport
-F20 m135i review (this is the model that is getting all the jounralists hot and bothered)
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc...5i_review.html
-Latest renderings and spy shots of what the 2 series could look like (shown here in 4 door gran coupe format; this bodystyle is not expected till 2015)
http://content.worldcarfans.co/2013/...7491529786.jpg
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...py-photos-news
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:53 PM
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Thanks for inputs guys! is the new 128 with turbo 4 going to be better (or more performant) than the current engine?
I have some basis for comparison. Currently have a 2012 328i lux package. There is nothing wrong with the 4 engine, though it takes some getting used to. Just ordered a 128 Cabrio for ED and drove a similarly equipped car 2 weeks ago. The in line 6, is just a pure pleasure to drive and the tight feel of the 128 convinced me I long for the days when the 6 (non-turbo) was a choice in the 3 series. I would personally recommend buying now. You'll own one of the last 6 cylinder cars being made.
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Old 04-02-2013, 04:23 PM
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i have some basis for comparison. Currently have a 2012 328i lux package. There is nothing wrong with the 4 engine, though it takes some getting used to. Just ordered a 128 cabrio for ed and drove a similarly equipped car 2 weeks ago. The in line 6, is just a pure pleasure to drive and the tight feel of the 128 convinced me i long for the days when the 6 (non-turbo) was a choice in the 3 series. I would personally recommend buying now. You'll own one of the last 6 cylinder cars being made.
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:48 PM
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Message from Justin in Ask-a -dealer says EOP for 128 is July.

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Old 04-02-2013, 10:04 PM
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Message from Justin in Ask-a -dealer says EOP for 128 is July.

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wow that sucks
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Old 04-03-2013, 05:12 AM
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I ordered my 128i cabrio and while I did not like the wait I think it was the right decision for me. If you need the car because your old one quit or something then ordering from inventory might be better for you. But if you can get by for 6 weeks or so without it, ordering is a viable option and is likely the only way to get exactly what you want.

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1) it seems like the 1 series is getting canned for the 2 series soon? Is that true?
BMW is refreshing all their cars at the moment. The 1 series has been in production worldwide for a decade... that's a pretty damned decent run for any car. However, like the move from E90 to F30 in the 3-series, you might find the new 2'er doesn't suit you. Quite a few 3 series owners have "defected" to other marques because the changes to the F30 aren't to their liking.

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2) If 1 is true, does that affect resale value of the 1 series
Depreciation will continue effectively unchanged. This is a completely normal evolution... and in fact there's a possibility that the 128 might see a bump in value (or at least lower than average depreciation) because enthusiasts like the normally aspirated 6... which will be the last from BMW as they're going "all turbo all the time". This may be particularly true of manual cars.

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3) We are not interested in ED and would like to get the car soon, but none in my region fit the requirements we have. Is it easy to buy from neighboring state and drive it back?
Dead easy. Just find the car you want and contact the dealer. Or order the car before end of production either at your local dealer or a remote dealer. You can do all your paperwork by email and/or fax except for the final delivery paperwork... my girlfriend just did this with an Audi A4 (she went to Maryland for it!)

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4) Is DCT going to be a lot better than an straight up auto car?
DCT is not available on the 128i... it's 135i only. The 128i has a traditional automatic. Both are available with a stick.

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Old 04-04-2013, 09:38 PM
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Ignoring numbers for the moment, one of the purest, most direct driving experiences currently available is a 128 with the classic I6 engine and M6 trans. The turbo 4 is better in every regard on paper, but IMO, does not compare when actually driving.

Get 'em while you can!
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Old 04-07-2013, 10:21 AM
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Ignoring numbers for the moment, one of the purest, most direct driving experiences currently available is a 128 with the classic I6 engine and M6 trans. The turbo 4 is better in every regard on paper, but IMO, does not compare when actually driving.

Get 'em while you can!
I have a 1M and love it but I couldn't agree more. The I6 NA with real manual is the purest experience and you should have one while you can. My son is 10 and in 6 or 7 years I will want to show him the purest experience and we will be looking for 128i MT to show him how it was.

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