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Old 03-06-2013, 01:49 PM
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"cowbell" in rim

hey guys..new here and have to say love the car thus far...last night as i was pulling in my driveway i heard a sound as best described as a "cowbell" in the rim...did some research and what i found was anything from a rock in the caliper to brake shield bent...well i brought into dealer where my friends brother is service manager... he took right in and came out to tell me that they heard the sound....but it is something to do with how the rear hub/rim is torqued ...meaning that they had a service bulletin on this and that they have to drop rear axle and reinstall some super lube and re torque the rear hub (specific torque measurement) takes about 3-4 hours...so because i did not have appointment and he told me to just come in they rented me a chrysler 200 from enterprise ...i'm good as this storm in northeast rather use rental than my m3...so just be aware of this service bulletin if you hear your car calling you for dinner with a "cowbell"..when i get the work receipt i will post the actual work bulletin and what was performed...as well as let you know if the sound is gone..
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:10 AM
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Question Similar Noises!

Thank You for this post.

I have the same issue, comes and goes. Also, I had a noise that sounds like the rock in the brake caliper as well. It also comes and goes. I don't know if these are separate issues, or related to one another.
I will be interested to hear of your results. I just bought my 2011 M3, used CPO, and the salesman told me that in order to certify the car, that they had checked for any service bulletins and recalls. All was supposed to be performed.

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Old 03-07-2013, 12:27 PM
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i willpost a reply tomorrow or when i get the car back...aas to what was actually performed...will aslo see if i can get the actual bulletin number to post...no rush to get car bck here weather sucks and want this three day storm to go away...love the chrysler 200 they rented from enterprise for me....lol
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:34 PM
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Thanks.... Good Luck with the storm!
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Old 03-12-2013, 02:41 PM
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so my story continues...my car was ready on friday and when i showed up at dealer in the snowstorm my service rep. told me to keep the car till saturday so as not to dry the car in the bad weather..but he assured me that i was all set and the work was complete...
return on saturday and weather was 180 degrees different(actually put top down)...looked at service bill of which they said they performed SIB330408..cofirming noise coming from rear differential...removed and replaced rear diff seal,lubricated input flange in accordance with SIB330408...in defense they did not road test due to weather..although the sound is present as soon as you roll forward...got home and as i pulled into driveway the "cowbell" returned.. so i actually videotaped the sound and texted it to my service rep...who contacted me on sunday and asked if that was same sound from before and i said yes...now he said it is the emergency brake...that it has a spring inside the caliper and they break and when you pull away at low speed it rubs...and clanks...he says known to happen..(why he did not fix it then)...he said needs the car for overnight and has to do both sides...so tomorrow back to dealership,,,so stay tuned......
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:26 PM
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Gees! The scenario sounds like the Chevy dealer I used for my 07`vette (I sold it)
Also, the same as the BMW dealer, when I had trouble with my 335i! HPFP had it replaced twice. Had to use posts from this forum to get it straight.
It appears that the service managers are just story tellers, to make up for poor tech's., or BMW procedures.
I will be taking my car in (when I can get an appointment:-)
Good luck!
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Old 03-15-2013, 04:58 AM
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the saga continues...car has been there since wednesday..the valet as he was pulling car out of staging area noticed sound and told my service writer about it and he said that is why the car is here...now the service tech takes car and cant reproduce sound so now my service writer and the shop forman drive car and guess what they cannot produce sound...luckily my service writer has the video i sent to him demonstrating the obvious sound...(i dont know how to post it here otherwise i would)....needless to say got a text from my wife yesterday saying how much she like this brand new taurus they rented for me with a less than 1500 on odometer...limited model no less...go figure....stay tuned supposed to hear form them today to see if i can get my car back by saturday...i know the service writer is doing his best as i am his moms surgeon and i noticed on top of my paper work he hand wrote in big letter "VIP" did not ask and have no idea what that means...the fact that he wrote it bothers me that they treat customers differently...guess my work modo did not transfer there.."treat everyone as you would treat your family"...guess that is why i am successful and they still have my car...

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There is a rock stuck between the heat shield and the disc.
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Old 03-17-2013, 06:59 AM
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i have told them that when i first brought the car in... they did the service bulletin like described in my 2 response above...something with rear differential...now the shop foreman with my permission took car home and drove back the next day to see if he can reproduce sound....he was able to finally reproduce and thinks it is in the brakes but has to do with the "floating rotor" system used in these high performance cars? explained that the rotor floats and as the car and the brakes and surrounding metal heats up(as you get on the car) the metal expands and they get locked in place....but as the metal cools it should become floating again and not binding like mine is causing the clank??? they replaced the whole rear brake system and are lubing it all up (not sure if they are just lubing me up) and want the car thru monday if ok to leave over night as it is still real cold here in northeast and see what happens....meanwhile enjoying my taurus limited they rented me...stay tuned
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:03 AM
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so i picked up the car yesterday..said to see my taurus limited go back...they said they replaced the rear brakes rotors and pads and lubricated the whole system....as it was explained to me as the brakes heat up the metal expands and causes the rotors to lock into place...mine were not releasing when they cooled down thus causing the cowbell sound...have not been able to drive the car so aggressive since i picked up...the weather here in newyork is horrible...rain sleet wet snow you name it...but so far noo sound....so fingers are crossed and either way got new rrear brakes...
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Old 04-16-2013, 11:13 AM
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I have had this problem 2 times since buying my M3. It is 100% the rock between the heat shield and brake. I am having the rear diff service this Friday, (my BMW specialist says this will fix the issue) I'll report back.
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:00 AM
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I know you're not going to believe this as I didn't either but: IT IS ROCKS!

They replaced to complete rear ends, breaks, rims, tires, etc, etc, etc. Had a new rear end brought in from Germany, had a BMW Engineer come in to work on it and could not find the issue. The problem happened one day in a customer's parking lot so I stopped immediately. They dispatched people to the site and began dismantling the rear end in the parking lot. Low and behold out pops a small granular size of gravel from the right rear tire.

It's a design flaw and nothing else they can do about it in this model. They even custom made some shields to try and stop it and it still gets in there.

If you look back a couple of years ago at my post you will see the issue. Tell your dealer to call Ricky @ Flow BMW in Winston Salem, NC as he is very familiar with the issue and resolution.
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2013 X5 5.0 M (White/Sand) - Ordered
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2011 M3 Vert (Alpine/Beige) - Gone
2008 550i (Space Grey/Grey) - Gone
2006 M3 Vert (Imola Red/Imola Red) - Gone

2005 X5 (Grey/Black) - Son driving it now
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