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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 04-07-2013, 09:58 AM
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Smile Wil a 2001 530i pass the CA.sniffer test with a bad valve cover gasket?

Hi folks I just moved to California,the car is still on the moving van,and there were a few issues with the car that I could not get to before I moved, one was a valve cover gasket and the other was a power steering hose leak. My Question is will it pass the sniffer test with the valve cover gasket leak?Thanks
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:11 AM
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If the check engine light is on, then no.

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Old 04-07-2013, 03:10 PM
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Yes it will as long as no CEL and no other causes. VCG leaking won't fail a visual, but disconnected or rotted emissions hoses will
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:02 PM
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Yes it will as long as no CEL and no other causes. VCG leaking won't fail a visual, but disconnected or rotted emissions hoses will
Are you selling the car?
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[ In California, by law] ... the buyer must receive from the seller a passed smog test dated no later than 90 days prior to sale, or the state will not issue a cert. The bind comes when the buyer has to get the car smogged after the sale, and before registration. If it fails, he has the privilege to spend whatever it takes to pass the test.
I don't know the answer to the VCG question - but I do know what California uses to pass or fail with respect to the CEL and any pending codes.

It's all in this thread (which the OP should post the final results to):
- What you can expect for California E39 smog emissions test results (1)

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Last week, I had a long talk with Mike McCarthy (m+his-last-name@arb.ca.gov) about OBD codes in California.

Mike manages the CARB OBD program for California (626-771-3614).

He is a very knowledgeable guy who knows the entire history of FTP drive cycles, OBD test requrements, and smog test laws and regulations.

He provided more detail than I could handle (most of which went over my head), but, it's important to note that the legislature voted to allow OBD-only tests in California, but, the infrastructure won't be in place by January next year - and most likely won't be in place for a while.

Mike said 31 states do smog tests but California had to fight the EPA to do decentralized tests. The EPA wanted centralized tests - so California implemented the 'hybrid' system of 'test only' stations and 'test-and-repair stations' to meet the EPA requirements of centralization. For the past year, they have been rating smog test & smog test-and-repair stations, giving each a STAR rating.

Today, every two years you have to get a smog test at either a test-only station or at a test-and-repair station. But, he said, fraud is rampant, so they're going to mail you a note that requires you to go to a station with a high rating. The system isn't in place, but an example would be a five-star rating where in order to register, you can only go to a five-star rated test station. They are doing this to cut down on fraud.

Another thing he told me is that a California dyno smog test cycle is NOT the BMW FTP test, nor the federal FTP-75 test (details at http://dieselnet.com). It's a special shortened California-only version of the drive trace that works well on a dyno.

Mike also mentioned that it takes two cycles for a CEL to go on (first one gives the pending DTC); and it takes 3 complete drive cycles for the CEL to go out.

For more information, Mike suggested I contact smogcheck.ca.gov.

EDIT: For information on the OBD readiness monitors, I called the Department of Consumer affairs 800-952-5210 where you can actually talk to 'former mechanics' who are now 'technical advisors' or 'consumer assistance representatives' for the state of California who will discuss with you your smog test questions.

At the Department of Consumer Affairs, I spoke with "Marvin" who explained that, in California, a 1996 to 2000 vehicle can pass smog with 2 monitors not ready but that a 2001 to current vehicle can have only 1 monitor not ready and still pass smog tests. He said many technicians still fail the car because they want to have high STAR scores.

In addition, Marvin said that new OBD tests will check your air conditioning because they assume if your ac isn't working that you're leaking freon into the atmosphere just like they check your fuel system, again assuming vapors will leak out into the atmosphere. So it's not just engine emissions that are being monitored.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:37 PM
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Thank you for the info Bluebee,I've read some of you're DIY threads (the oil change was entertaining and informative)Do you know of a fair place, I'll be in Hesperia in about a week?
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Old 04-07-2013, 10:40 PM
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Do you know of a fair place, I'll be in Hesperia in about a week?
You're asking the wrong person!

First off, I had to look up on Google maps to find where Hesperia even was; and secondly, I'm in the SF Bay Area, and not in socal (but plenty of folks down there can advise you).

Thirdly, having taken Economics 101 long ago in college, I go to the cheapest place I can find for commodities such as smog inspection; the places I go to barely even have walls!

Up here, that's always a Vietnamese guy either at the smog-only station (every few years we all get those nastigrams in our registration packet), or at the smog-and-fix stations. I ask the one cheapest guy where the other cheapest guy is - and that's my algorithm.

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Old 04-18-2013, 03:49 AM
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I passed the smog test,so thanks for the info.
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Old 04-18-2013, 03:13 PM
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I passed the smog test,so thanks for the info.
Congrats.

Did you post the results to the thread?
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:31 AM
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Not yet but I will.
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not yet but i will.
tia
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