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Old 04-15-2013, 09:51 PM
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Best oil? I was thinking of using a full synthetic mobile 1 5w 40?
Who sells good aftermarket suspension parts?
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Old 04-16-2013, 01:19 AM
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I am looking for good aftermarket suspension and steering parts also. Hopefully within a reasonable price range.
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Old 04-16-2013, 05:53 AM
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Best oil? I was thinking of using a full synthetic mobile 1 5w 40?
Who sells good aftermarket suspension parts?
I would suggest that you discover what kind of oil the PO was using, as well as the mileage.
If the engine has over 100k miles on it, and
has been on a diet of non-synthetic oil all its life, you run the risk of blowing a seal or leaks if you now feed it synthetic oil.
Over time a high mileage engine in otherwise good condition tends to have seals that are hardened.
They seal ok with the conventional oil, but are not good at containing synthetic oil.
If you switch oil type, you'll have be keep a very close eye on the floor for leakage. I'd also worry about a blown seal if the synthetic oil is used on an engine with old seals and possible excessive crankcase pressure .

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Old 04-16-2013, 08:25 AM
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Myths about Synthetic Oils

The most often cited myth concerning synthetic oil is that it will wear down the seals in your engine and cause leaks. That just isn't true. Well, for the most part, anyway.

Like many myths, this one is based in fact. Early synthetics were made of esters, which were harder on seals, especially those made of neoprene. However, synthetic oils have come a long way since the early 1970s, and they're much nicer to delicate seals. But while synthetic oil won't create a leak, it will find one. Its streamlined molecular structure has no mercy for cracked or otherwise marginal seals. The oil and its additives may even clean deposits from the engine, which is good -- unless those deposits are acting like spackle on questionable seals.

Related to this is the myth that if you started with mineral oil in your car, you can't switch to synthetic oil. As long as your engine's seals are in decent shape, you can switch back and forth to your heart's content.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/switch...hetic-oil1.htm
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Old 04-16-2013, 12:51 PM
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Im not sure what the previous owner had used, i use mobile 1 in all my cars and thats what i usually switch too... i like where the climate is below freezing one day and 70 the next...
What oil do you use? i just like synthetic because it seems to be a better formula than mineral based

Also what parts are interchangable with the m3? 325, 318? what about 5 series?
Im looking to get some upgrades like rotors and steering parts soon
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Old 04-16-2013, 12:58 PM
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I use Mobile 1. I just bought my '98 M3 last month with 118k miles. I changed brakes, tires, shocks, struts. Now I need to change control arms, tie rod ends, and stabilizer end links. It doesn't look like the previous owner changed them...ever
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Old 04-16-2013, 01:05 PM
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I dont think youll get much difference going aftermarket unless its for camber, the m3 suspension seems beefy enough already so i am going to get a poly bushing set for now.. im lowered to on 18 asa wheels and dont seem to have any probelms
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Play around on this site (enter the last 7 digits of your VIN) and find the parts for your car. Then you can cross reference and see where else the parts are used.
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Old 04-16-2013, 01:18 PM
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I have lowering springs from the previous owner but there are a lot of issues I am feeling in the steering. I also just changed my valve cover gasket because of oil in one of my plug sockets. Gonna do a compression check this weekend. Fun cars to work on though I am really looking forward to getting the car up to top shape.
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Old 04-16-2013, 01:21 PM
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steering is stiff but nothing unusuall for a lowered car.. what have you dont so far?
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:09 PM
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Someone give me some info on what oil is best for these cars! it has 120k and is the euro version with a true m series engine
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:31 AM
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Someone give me some info on what oil is best for these cars! it has 120k and is the euro version with a true m series engine

Get under the car and look at the front of the oil pan, the front subframe , the engine/transmission join.
Any oil? Examine the oil. Is it engine oil or power steering oil. Check the hoses running to the power steering reservoir. Are they oily?
If there is a leak stain down the front of the oil pan, but no oil stain above the crank pulley, then the front main seal may be leaking. The seal is hard.

If you pop a seal, you'll lose the rod bearings in a second.

If it is dry at the front seal and dry at the join between the engine and trans and does not look like someone has power washed the engine, then there's more comfort that the seals are good enough to contain the synthetic oil.

In my experience, I don't use synthetic in any engines with mileage if they leak at the crank seals.
If the leaks are not at the crank seals, I'll use synthetic and reseal the leaks in quick fashion.

I use Mobil 1 15/50 gold top in good sealing engines.

Otherwise, take the car to a shop and have them look for engine oil leaks.

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Old 04-17-2013, 07:33 AM
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Did you read the link I posted at the beginning of this thread? You still don't want to make your own decision?

OK, then...

Get 7 quarts of Mobil 1 5w-30 and change the oil. You'll also want a nice filter (comes with o-rings and crush washers) and magnetic oil drain plug.

You'll need to put in 6 quarts of the oil (don't forget to put oil on the filter), then wait for a while, maybe an hour, and check the level on the dipstick. If it's still a bit low, well that's what the 7th quart is for.

If you really have the S50B32, then you might need different parts. That engine was not built for the US and if you have it in your car, someone has gone through a huge effort to get it there. Please take care of it.
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I used Rotella T6 5w-40 or Mobil 1 0w-40 for winter/colder months. I'm going to use Mobil 1 15w-40 for this summer. I'm not sure which suspension components you are asking about but if you want coilovers; TCKline, TRM, JRZ, or Ground Control are all good coils. Bushings and mounts; if you want poly go for AKG Motorsport, use marine grease so they don't squeak, and make sure you have reinforcements plates welded onto the RTAB pockets! If you're going with OE rubber, check out Turner Motorsport and ECS Tuning because they have packages for just about every rear bushing and ball joints. Front end overhaul, Bimmerworld has a kit for that too.

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-16...e36e36-m3.aspx
http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E36-M3-...its/ES2226194/
http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E36-M3-...its/ES2497497/
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Someone give me some info on what oil is best for these cars! it has 120k and is the euro version with a true m series engine
Euro spec car nice! It should be running the S50b32 in 1998 (noted as it requires different oil specs than the US motor). Motul 300V 10w40 (LINK) is one of our more popular oils for your motor with track guys and warm weather guys alike. I have a group who prefer the 5w40 weight Quartz (LINK) as well as the Lubro Moly 0w-40 (LINK) for daily driving with the S50b32.

All that being said the BMW recommended oil for that motor is Castrol Edge Professional TWS 10w60 (LINK) which is a fantastic oil! It does take a bit of time to come up to temp in cold weather but as long as you pay attention to the oil temp gauge you'll be fine!

The Euro motor does use the same oil filter as the US spec S52 (S54 and S50), it's BMW part number 11427833769 (LINK)

Please note because you have the Euro version of the E36 M3 5w-30 is NOT the recommended oil for your vehicle.




For suspension what all are you looking for? Coilovers, camber plates, sway bars, etc? or just quality stock replacement parts? I have both avaible HERE. If you need help with parts shoot me a PM I'd be glad to assist!
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I used Rotella T6 5w-40 or Mobil 1 0w-40 for winter/colder months. I'm going to use Mobil 1 15w-40 for this summer. I'm not sure which suspension components you are asking about but if you want coilovers; TCKline, TRM, JRZ, or Ground Control are all good coils. Bushings and mounts; if you want poly go for AKG Motorsport, use marine grease so they don't squeak, and make sure you have reinforcements plates welded onto the RTAB pockets! If you're going with OE rubber, check out Turner Motorsport and ECS Tuning because they have packages for just about every rear bushing and ball joints. Front end overhaul, Bimmerworld has a kit for that too.

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-16...e36e36-m3.aspx
http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E36-M3-...its/ES2226194/
http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E36-M3-...its/ES2497497/
This +1. Used both, both work well. I tend to stick with Mobil1 0-40 these days just because I can stop and get a quart for top offs anywhere, but the T6 isn't sold in quarts in most places, only gallons, as it is marketed primarily as a diesel oil.
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Thank you, i think ill try 10w40 semi-synthetic or mineral oil..
im thinking of just putting new bushings in for now, probably buy a poly set
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Thank you, i think ill try 10w40 semi-synthetic or mineral oil..
im thinking of just putting new bushings in for now, probably buy a poly set
10-40 is not recommended at all for the US motors, only 0-40 or 5-40, 10-40 is going to be too heavy and will not help you at all and may cause long term damage, but being a Euro motor perhaps a 10-40 is okay? I would go with a thinner oil myself.

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okay okay, ill just do 0w40..
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I went ahead and used 0w40 euro mix by mobile 1... So far the cars been running great with no leaks but I had a problem with the oil filters... Can't find any good ones In stock and got a wix at oriellys but it didn't fit and I checked the part number which was right... I ended up using a pos fram for now but want to order some good filters in
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Filters are cheap.

I also recommend this, especially as our engines age. Last oil change I did had a nice glop of stuff I was able to remove.
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Woooo, thats a great price... probably buy a box of those since noone stocks them nearby
What can i get as far as front suspension bushing kits?
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