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F22 / F23 2 Series (2014 - Current)
The 2 Series coupe is the replacement for the E82/E88 1 series coupe. Production starts in November 2013 on the 228i (N20) and M235i (N55) coupes. Look for them in dealerships in February 2014. The convertible F23 2 series will follow in the fall of 2014.

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Old 04-04-2013, 07:56 PM
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Looks even stranger when you write it down and worse when you add in M235 = turbo 6 so really the sub brand of M will have a better performer motor than the M 2 if the M2 goes 4 cylinder........I think it's time for a revolution if it goes 4 cylinder
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:09 PM
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Who cares how many cylinders it has? A light weight turbo 4 cylinder high output sounds like the perfect engine for the M1 and M2. I just drove the 3 cylinder and it felt more lively in the F20 1 series then N20 does in the F30. Don't judge an engine by it cylinders -

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Old 04-04-2013, 08:27 PM
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I hear what you are saying....
I've had 3 6 cylinder and 1 4 cylinder bimmers and the only disappointment is the 4 cylinder........maybe the performance figures may change me.
Still doesn't make sense that the M235 is a 6 though........all speculation isn't it though
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Old 04-06-2013, 03:59 PM
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A 350bhp 4-cylinder turbo engine with a 9000 RPM redline would be quite suitable for a more edgy (and hopefully lighter) M2.
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I wouldn't be too surprised to see a high-output four-cylinder in an M2 for a couple of reasons:

- As already noted, the original M3 sported a four-cylinder motor. If they go nuts with it, they could again build a lighter, more powerful 4-cylinder than the contemporary sixes.

- Remember that BMW's working with a turbocharged inline 3-cylinder. 4 cylinders would be a step up from one of those.

That said, I also wouldn't be surprised if the low-end car, analogous to the current 128i had that 1.5L three-cylinder, the high-end, analogous to the current 135i sported a 2L four cylinder turbo, and the bonkers M2 would get the 3L inline-6. I suspect that'd be easier to sell, even if they could do a wicked-fast and notably lighter version of the turbocharged I4.
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I wouldn't be too surprised to see a high-output four-cylinder in an M2 for a couple of reasons:

- As already noted, the original M3 sported a four-cylinder motor. If they go nuts with it, they could again build a lighter, more powerful 4-cylinder than the contemporary sixes.

- Remember that BMW's working with a turbocharged inline 3-cylinder. 4 cylinders would be a step up from one of those.

That said, I also wouldn't be surprised if the low-end car, analogous to the current 128i had that 1.5L three-cylinder, the high-end, analogous to the current 135i sported a 2L four cylinder turbo, and the bonkers M2 would get the 3L inline-6. I suspect that'd be easier to sell, even if they could do a wicked-fast and notably lighter version of the turbocharged I4.
The M235i is just the M135i in coupe form, which is already a 3.0L six turbo, so no need to speculate on it.
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The M235i is just the M135i in coupe form, which is already a 3.0L six turbo, so no need to speculate on it.
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And a trunk instead of a hatch- but yeah. And hopefullly better headlights
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Given that the AMG CLA45 will be sporting a 350 hp/295 ft/lbs i4 turbo, I'd say a M2 series i4 turbo, at 340 - 360 hp, 270 - 290 ft/lbs is feasible and would slot nicely in the M line up (340-360 hp (300 ft/lbs) - 1M/M2, 430-460 hp (400 ft/lbs) - M3/4, 560 hp (500 ft/lbs) - M5/6). That and as long as each engine hits whatever BMW prescribes for power/weight ratio (which is probably more important that just engine output) and they'll have a winner.
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I'd personally take an M235i over a turbo-four M2. But that's cause I don't track my cars anymore, so I'd rather take the better sound of the inline six over the better handling of the turbo four.

engines and handling considerations aside, i was wondering if the transmission choices for those 2 models might affect your decision; that is; the m235 suppposedly will offer the manual and auto whereas the m2 will have the manual and dct. if you're going manual, well then it doesn't matter, but if not, is auto vs dct a factor?
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engines and handling considerations aside, i was wondering if the transmission choices for those 2 models might affect your decision; that is; the m235 suppposedly will offer the manual and auto whereas the m2 will have the manual and dct. if you're going manual, well then it doesn't matter, but if not, is auto vs dct a factor?
I hate autos so it would be DCT or manual for me.
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