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Old 04-27-2013, 03:49 PM
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dodgy vin # ?

I am trying to source parts for a friend's 1997 Z3 1.9l 5 speed. The compliance plate on the mudguard above the RH front wheel shows vin # LD95573. Real OEM, BMW TIS and vin decoder all register it as invalid. What gives ?
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Old 04-27-2013, 04:31 PM
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... 1997 Z3 1.9l 5 speed. The compliance plate on the mudguard above the RH front wheel shows vin # LD95573. Real OEM, BMW TIS and vin decoder all register it as invalid. What gives...
I am not familiar with the terms compliance plate and mudguard, but I have the same car and my VIN is noted on various plates as 4USCH7327VLB77787. Look for something like that. Your car was probably built in Germany rather than the USA, but the number you gave seems too short to be a VIN.

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Old 04-28-2013, 10:36 PM
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The compliance plate I believe is a requirement of the Australian Government to verify that the car complies with their standards for safety, emissions etc. Mudguard = fender. The full vin number is there, I just quoted the last 7 digits as required by realoem and bmw tis. I am wondering why the number is invalid?
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Old 04-29-2013, 04:48 AM
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Any chance it's an 8 that looks like a 9?
LD85573 comes up as:

" 07/1998 Z3 Z3 1.9 Roadster M44 Europe Right hand drive N
Production Code: CH72 "
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Old 04-29-2013, 04:54 AM
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The compliance plate I believe is a requirement of the Australian Government to verify that the car complies with their standards for safety, emissions etc. ... The full vin number is there, I just quoted the last 7 digits as required by realoem and bmw tis. I am wondering why the number is invalid?
My car has a VIN plate on the dashboard at the windshield, and VIN stickers on the driver door jamb, on the bottom of each door, on the hood, on each front fender, and I did not even look in the trunk.

Do all those factory plates and stickers on your car show the same invalid VIN that is on the Australian compliance sticker? Or is it a case of the Australian sticker alone that has the invalid number? If so, that would be a local error.

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I am not familiar with the terms compliance plate and mudguard, but I have the same car and my VIN is noted on various plates as 4USCH7327VLB77787. Look for something like that. Your car was probably built in Germany rather than the USA, but the number you gave seems too short to be a VIN.
ALL Z3's were built @ plant Spartanburg in South Carolina, USA.
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:17 AM
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ALL Z3's were built @ plant Spartanburg in South Carolina, USA.
I was confused by seeing statements like...
"Outside of North America, the 1.9 L 4-cylinder was replaced with a 2.0 L straight-6 in 1999... for 2000... The range consisted of the 2.2 L M54B22 (available outside North America)..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_Z3_(E36/4)
So Spartanburg built some different engines for the North American and overseas markets, and even right-hand drive cars for the UK.
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I was confused by seeing statements like...
"Outside of North America, the 1.9 L 4-cylinder was replaced with a 2.0 L straight-6 in 1999... for 2000... The range consisted of the 2.2 L M54B22 (available outside North America)..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_Z3_(E36/4)
So Spartanburg built some different engines for the North American and overseas markets, and even right-hand drive cars for the UK.
Well, see thats actually wrong too. The 1.9L went on till the end of the range in most markets, except for the USA where in 1999MY it was replaced by the 2.3 badged car with a 2.5L engine.
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:47 PM
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vintage 42 - I cannot see any other VIN plates or stickers.
Bob 2.8 - Sounds possible, I will check next time I see the car.
Thank you all.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:46 AM
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I am trying to source parts for a friend's 1997 Z3 1.9l 5 speed. The compliance plate on the mudguard above the RH front wheel shows vin # LD95573. Real OEM, BMW TIS and vin decoder all register it as invalid. What gives ?
Assuming the "digit" before the L is a V, then is it possible that the "D" (after the L and before the 95) is in fact a "0" (zero)? that would be a valid VIN for a '97 built in Spartanburg SC... the first 7 digits should be 4USCH73.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:57 AM
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vintage 42 - I cannot see any other VIN plates or stickers...
Are you saying that the only evidence of a VIN number on the whole car is a sticker applied to indicate the car complies with Australian requirements? No factory metal dash tag? No factory stickers on the door jamb, doors, fenders?
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Old 05-01-2013, 03:52 PM
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Bob 2.8 - I think you are correct. The number you suggested lists specifications that match the car.
vintage 42 - I cannot see any other VIN stickers. There is a tyre pressure sticker on the RH door jamb, and under the hood the Australian compliance plate, air con sticker and emission sticker and a little sticker with the paint colour. I looked through the windscreen to the dash, but saw nothing.
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