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Old 04-26-2013, 09:21 PM
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Run flat proved useful tonight

Was out with the wife tonight for dinner and a movie. When we turned on the car, I got the warning: rear right tire pressure low.

So I checked the tire and it looked fine, drove to a Chevron, bought a tire pressure gauge, and sure enough, pressure was at 19 PSI. So I checked the tire and found a screw jammed into it. Bummer.

The temporary solution was to fill it to proper PSI so we could get to Cheesecake Factory for desert. Tomorrow I'll take it to the service department and hopefully they have time to fix it (I'm assuming they can fix this). I have tire insurance so that covers it.

I'm not a fan of how run flats feel on the car. But I am a fan of them when this sort of thing happens, which is not often, but a major bummer if you have to change to the non-existing spare while on a date with the wife.
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:32 PM
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Many will not fix run flats since you're basically damaging / degrading the tire by driving on the run flat bars as soon as you lose pressure.
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Old 04-27-2013, 05:41 AM
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Glad to hear the night wasnt ruined!

You will get a new tire as they won't plug a run flat. Hope they have it in stock. Let us know how it goes.
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Old 04-27-2013, 05:50 AM
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Run flat proved useful tonight

I got mine fixed and 10k miles later still good...


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Old 04-27-2013, 06:05 AM
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Dealers will not fix runflats, as there is simply more profit in replacing the tire.
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Old 04-27-2013, 07:10 AM
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I had a tire plugged at my local Goodyear dealer about 12,000 miles ago and have had no problems. Also had a Goodyear RFT tire plugged on my Corvette. My GY 18" rft have 35,000 miles and still look good, however will need tires by the end of the summer.

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Old 04-27-2013, 07:50 AM
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In this particular case, you would have had the same experience with a non-run flat. A screw through the tread will cause a slow loss of pressure which you can probably fill up until it slowly leaks again. If the tire goes flat and can not be refilled, then the run flat will do its thing and allow you to drive another 50 miles or so.
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Old 04-27-2013, 08:58 AM
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As others have said, RFT's should not be repaired. Of course they can but dealer on does spec work. Since you have insurance don't even think about plugging it. They will out a new one on. If this is your first claim it should be quick. If not the third part insurance will want to come out and inspect and from my experience it 2-3 days before you get it back. Sucks but this is where we are at with these tires. Insurance companies are losing there shirts. I am on four new tires in the last 4 months.


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Old 04-27-2013, 04:48 PM
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This kind of tire damage will become more prevalent as the economy improves. More construction activity equals more sharp or pointy junk in the roads.
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Old 04-27-2013, 08:55 PM
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In this particular case, you would have had the same experience with a non-run flat. A screw through the tread will cause a slow loss of pressure which you can probably fill up until it slowly leaks again. If the tire goes flat and can not be refilled, then the run flat will do its thing and allow you to drive another 50 miles or so.
Was 19 psi when I got to the car. Not sure non RFT's would do 19 to the gas station a few miles away but maybe.
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Old 04-28-2013, 05:48 AM
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Was 19 psi when I got to the car. Not sure non RFT's would do 19 to the gas station a few miles away but maybe.
A run flat doesn't prevent loss of air or reduce the amount of air lost. In those cases when all air is lost for whatever reason, it allows you to drive on the tire without air for 50 or so miles. This is accomplished by incorporating a stiff sidewall that supports the tire until the side wall is destroyed which it probably will be after 50 to 100 miles. A conventional tire provides no such sidewall support and when you lose all of the air you are riding on the rim.

Years ago it was possible to buy self sealing tires that had a layer of sealant under the tread that would prevent loss of air if the tread was punctured by a nail or something. This proved to be a really bad idea because the sealant would shift position and cause vibration after a while.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:39 AM
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Assuming you have wheel and tire insurance(either the factory Road Hazard provided for FREE by Goodyear and some other manufacturers, or a Wheel & Tire insurance plan from BMW or a 3rd party), why would you ever WANT to have a RFT patched?

With the insurance, screw=free tire. On my X5, four Dunlops were replaced under warranty in +/- 25,000 miles of driving. At $500-plus per tire, that's $2,000 of replacement rubber. If I'd taken them to a tire store which had agreed to repair them, I would have been replacing them anyway withing 3 to 6 months, but on my own dime instead of at the insurance company's expense.
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Old 04-28-2013, 12:08 PM
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How long can you expect the RFTs to last normally? (miles)

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Not a big deal. Dealer won't repair run flats. I just go to Pep Boys and buy a plug kit for around $7. I have successfully plugged screw holes without even removing the tire.

Discount tire will also plug the hole for free.

I recommend carrying a plug kit. It is a very simple thing to do. As long as the damage is not on the sidewall plugging is ok.


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Old 04-28-2013, 02:59 PM
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How long can you expect the RFTs to last normally? (miles)

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I've wondered this as well, pricing out non RFTs now. I've gotten up to 22k miles and still have a few thousand miles left on my Michelin RFTs.
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:40 AM
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Thanks to those who gave kind words about our safety.

The car is in for service this morning. As some here suspected, they're outright replacing the tire under wheel/tire insurance.

Do they ever damage wheels when they replace tires because they aren't careful or something? I'm starting to get paranoid about this.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:32 AM
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I've wondered this as well, pricing out non RFTs now. I've gotten up to 22k miles and still have a few thousand miles left on my Michelin RFTs.
Goodyear Excellence are terrible - 15k miles.
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:44 AM
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I've been surprised on the mileage. Use to be run flats gave you 18,000 to 20,000 miles. I have close to 27,000 on my M-Sport LS2's and still have probably another 10,000 miles of tread left. Of course that leaves me with the decision to either get a new set or hope they last until I turn back the car next July.


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Old 04-29-2013, 04:22 PM
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Got the new tire. Covered under warranty. But they damaged the rim slightly. Looks like damage from a clamp or something. It's a nick about 1/4 inch long and wide.

Haven't left the service department yet. Notified them and am sitting in a chair waiting to talk to someone.

Anyone with this experience? Can they repair it?

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Update: Just talked to someone and they said the service manager would contact me in the morning to setup an appointment to have it refinished.

Will it turn out like new?
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Got the new tire. Covered under warranty. But they damaged the rim slightly. Looks like damage from a clamp or something. It's a nick about 1/4 inch long and wide.

Haven't left the service department yet. Notified them and am sitting in a chair waiting to talk to someone.

Anyone with this experience? Can they repair it?

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Update: Just talked to someone and they said the service manager would contact me in the morning to setup an appointment to have it refinished.

Will it turn out like new?
I wouldn't accept it. They will likely call joe schmo wheel repair who will pull up with a conversion van and air brush the wheel. It will have no where near the finish quality of the factory nor the paint thickness. I'd ask for a new wheel.
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Scheduled an appointment to have it fixed. I'll give them a shot at fixing it properly and if they can't figure it out, then I'll ask for a new wheel.
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