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E46 (1999 - 2006)
The fourth generation 3 Series (E46 chassis) was introduced in 1999 and set the standard for engineering and performance during it's years of production including being named to Car & Driver's 10 best list every one of those years! ! -- View the E46 Wiki

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Old 04-29-2013, 11:08 AM
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1300 isnt bad for a clutch job. if they are replacing the flywheel as well.
Our clutches cost 280, our flywheels are 400. so 680+ 620 in labor seems like a fair price for a 10 hour job. every body's gotta eat.

You could replace a clutch an flywheel at work after hours. but ur boss might not like seeing ur cars entrails infront of his place of buiness. I say you tow it home and fix it yourself.
10 hour job?. Takes like 4 hours if that
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:15 AM
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10 hour job?. Takes like 4 hours if that
Yeah but the book is probably gonna quote the job at 10 hours. Thats pretty typical. AWD cars is like 20 hrs
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my car is AWD.. so i guess 9.5 hours on a clutch is a good price?
I'm not sure if the clutch job does the flywheel too.. He said he would get the clutch kit which would be 391.. and he would get it for 280... showed me his price...
so maybe that doesnt' include the flywheel?

I still think it was probably a good idea to do the slave cylinder just to be sure it's not just that.. I just feel like if it was my clutch i would have noticed slipping and smelled some burning... Never have..
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:15 PM
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yeah ask the echanic if the flywheel gets replaced as well at that price. if he says no ten dont use him.
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ok.. thanks 3star...

i'll keep you guys posted as to what this turns out to be.. and if the slave cylinder fixes it
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:32 PM
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ok.. thanks 3star...

i'll keep you guys posted as to what this turns out to be.. and if the slave cylinder fixes it
Sounds good. Let us know!
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got the call.. they're done... and I asked if they replace the flywheel when doing the clutch and they said no... they polish it up and make sure it doesn't have any uneven spots... If it's broken they'll replace it and probably charge me more..

going to pick it up now... hoping it is all better.
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got the call.. they're done... and I asked if they replace the flywheel when doing the clutch and they said no... they polish it up and make sure it doesn't have any uneven spots... If it's broken they'll replace it and probably charge me more..

going to pick it up now... hoping it is all better.
you can get a clutch and flywheel for under $450
http://gripforce.com/f1-stage-1-clut...-5l-2-8l-3-0l/

oem is overpriced. That's if you need a clutch/flywheel. But report back and let us know how it is with the new slave cylinder. And ask to have your old one so you can inspect it.
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Old 04-29-2013, 01:52 PM
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id recommend the sachkit its cheap enough and if u fix it right u don have to tough it for 6 years or so
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That wasn't it.. still doing the same thing... pedal is still mushy... and still hard to push the stick into the gears.. and there's some (very little) vibration when holding my foot on the clutch but not putting any pressure on it..

guess i'll schedule the 1300 clutch job... F#$K
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yea.. they use the sach kit.. all done for 1300.. and he'd deduct the hour of labor spent on the slave cylinder on the price.. to help me out..
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That wasn't it.. still doing the same thing... pedal is still mushy... and still hard to push the stick into the gears.. and there's some (very little) vibration when holding my foot on the clutch but not putting any pressure on it..

guess i'll schedule the 1300 clutch job... F#$K
1300 is far to much without having a new clutch, flywheel and pressure plate. I just linked you an entire kit that cost under $450 for all the parts.
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well.. they're quoting 1300 for the whole job.. 300 or so for the sach clutch kit... then 89/hour for labor at 9.5 hours... then plus taxes and shop fees... comes out to a little less than 1300
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well.. they're quoting 1300 for the whole job.. 300 or so for the sach clutch kit... then 89/hour for labor at 9.5 hours... then plus taxes and shop fees... comes out to a little less than 1300
Ah ok so it does come with the clutch, flywheel and pressure plate?. Well then 1300 isn't to bad I suppose.
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sach kit only has clutch and pressure plate for 300.. they're going to check the flywheel all out for me and "polish it up" for me and ensure it doesn't have any uneven surfaces..

it is what it is.. 1300 gone.. FML
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sach kit only has clutch and pressure plate for 300.. they're going to check the flywheel all out for me and "polish it up" for me and ensure it doesn't have any uneven surfaces..

it is what it is.. 1300 gone.. FML
It isn't is what it is bro. Do some more research before throwing away 1300 so quickly. Ask them how much they'd charge for labor if you provided the parts? might be cheaper. And or call other shops and see what they charge also. 1300 is to high for not replacing the flywheel as well.
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sach kit only has clutch and pressure plate for 300.. they're going to check the flywheel all out for me and "polish it up" for me and ensure it doesn't have any uneven surfaces..

it is what it is.. 1300 gone.. FML
It ain`t over `til The Fat Lady sings, and I haven`t heard her yet....If I were you, I would tell them to hold up on the job until you can get a Gripforce Stage II kit (around $500, it includes a nice, new billet-steel flywheel....a good deal for sure). I believe Mal provided a link several messages back.
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sach kit only has clutch and pressure plate for 300.. they're going to check the flywheel all out for me and "polish it up" for me and ensure it doesn't have any uneven surfaces..

it is what it is.. 1300 gone.. FML
1300 is too much for that job. The BMW uses a dual mass flywheel most shops cant or will refuse to resurcae it, some will.

THe mechanic might not be aware of that and will discover that later.

In any case 1300 is way too much money. 300. for a sach kit and 60.00 for a shop to resurface it or 400 for a oe replacement flywheel.

they are charging u about 100/hr for labor which is unreasonable
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I suggest you do it yourself.
Assuming u have no tools here is what it will cost you
100- Hydraulic jack
Jack stands
Torque Wrench 20 - 100ftlbs 3/8 drive 80.00 at home depot
Huskey Ratchet wrench set, complete kit 100.00 (Worth it)
Screw drivers
a set of E reverse torx sockets - 20
Tool costs 300-400

Parts:
300 - Sach kit
400 - OE replacement flywheel
=700 in parts

Tow truck to bring the car home - 150.00
Your insurance company may tow it for a cheaper rate. The guide to changing the clutch can be found on the pelican parts website. It will take you a weekend assuming you have 0 mechanical experience.

So the choice is yours pay 1300 and learn nothing or pay 1100-1200 learn alot, and have tools so you can repair your car yourself in the future plus pocket the extra 100 before taxes.

One more note whatever you do DO NOT drop a torque wrench that will damage it and make it unreliable

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Its always a good idea to buy a flywheel and replace it when you change the clutch reason why is you cant predict the condition of the flywheel on the car. And you dont want to drop the gearbox and discover the flywheel is badly heat cracked or bdly worn and cant be resurfaced. THEN have to wait a couple days to get the flywheel.

Its better to spend the extra money and plan the repair before turning a bolt.

Be patient and ask a friend to help you you can do it
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Here is a good DIY link and some good product info....

http://blog.bavauto.com/11939/bmw-di...nstall-how-to/
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Thanks guys... I just pulled the trigger on the repair and shot the **** with the guy for a while.. talked about weed.. and I think he'll treat me right.. :-)

I dont have time to work on the car.. take time off. etc.. etc.. plus i dont even have a garage.. so .. wtf.. i'll just deal..

I run a porn site with my off hours.. and that, and my 1 year old baby boy take up all my time..


thanks guys.. this was super informative.. and i really appreciate you guys diving in and responding to me...
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Remember, if it is an E36/E46, you have a clutch master cylinder on the clutch pedal also. Could be that.
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If i had the time.. and could do without the car for more than a day.. I would do everything you guys suggested.. I would.. I'd probably grab my buddy who knows lots about cars and has rebuilt engines and do the job myself.. but i just need it to function again.. that's where i'm at at this point.. i'm not saying it's the best price.. but they treated me like i knew what i was talking about.. took my suggestions.. did the job and proved to me it wasn't the slave cylinder.. and then told me that they'd charge me just the cost of the part if i did the clutch which is really what it needs.. I talked at length with the owner.. and he seems legit... straight forward.. no bull****..

It's unfortunate that I dont have the time to shop around and wait a bit to really gather the options.. call some more shops.. etc.. unfortunately i just dont.. :-(
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