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Old 01-22-2011, 10:20 AM
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Upgrade 328i hi-fi audio system

I would like some advice on some small simple things I can do to upgrade the audio system in my new ride. Replace front speakers? What?

Really not trying to spend $1k or anything.
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Old 01-22-2011, 11:10 AM
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Old 01-22-2011, 11:28 AM
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Thanks you Technic.
Once I've got that done, what would you do next rear or subs? Just wondering for later.
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Old 01-22-2011, 12:21 PM
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Thanks you Technic.
Once I've got that done, what would you do next rear or subs? Just wondering for later.
Woofers could be next, but I think that you will like what you will hear with this new amp.
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Old 01-23-2011, 12:57 PM
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Woofers could be next, but I think that you will like what you will hear with this new amp.
Excuse my ignorance, I'm not a car audio person.

So this amp will power all of my speakers in the car (including subs)?
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Old 01-23-2011, 03:45 PM
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Excuse my ignorance, I'm not a car audio person.

So this amp will power all of my speakers in the car (including subs)?
Yes, 6-channels -front (2), rear (2) and underseat woofers (2). No OEM wires to cut.
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sorry to pull an old thread this one came up when i was searching. i blew my passenger door speaker. so i figured its time to upgrade. those speakers posted are discontinued anyone have any other suggestions for speakers and an amp. I am a sound quality person that likes to listen to my music louder than most. thanks!
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sorry to pull an old thread this one came up when i was searching. i blew my passenger door speaker. so i figured its time to upgrade. those speakers posted are discontinued anyone have any other suggestions for speakers and an amp. I am a sound quality person that likes to listen to my music louder than most. thanks!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DLS-ULTIMATE...4a2f22&vxp=mtr
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Old 04-12-2013, 11:10 AM
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excellent! thanks Technic
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Old 04-30-2013, 03:14 PM
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Total "newbie" here. :-)

Forgive my ignorance regarding stereos, etc. Basically, I dont' have a problem with my HiFi stereo setup. Reading a number of threads here (and other places), it seems not a lot can be done with the stereo system without a major over-haul. That being said, reading the thread here (and especially thanks to posts by Technic), it seems some "simple solutions" can be done improving the over all sound quality.

Ostensibly, it seems the XD600/6 - JL Audio 600W 6-Channel Class D Amplifier and speakers are the easiest to work with as a start.

For me, the most important is to add an equalizer. I would be quite happy if I can add an EQ system for the CD player/FM stereo. Is there anyway to do it without too many complications?

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Old 04-30-2013, 06:07 PM
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Wondering if this would help as well or if enough control from the amp will work just as well.

Also, sounds like a good choice from Technic for the front speakers, how about under the seat and rear?
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Old 05-02-2013, 11:05 PM
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if you guys need some speakers and subs let me know
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Old 07-07-2013, 04:38 AM
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speakers and subs

Hi Dude, im after 4inch for the rear. Not sure what goes in door panel
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Old 07-07-2013, 11:08 PM
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Neither do I unfortunately.... Sorry!

There are certainly tons of more people on the board who know much more than I do!
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:20 AM
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Definately going to check out that amp.
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Old 01-12-2015, 12:46 PM
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OK, so I'm in the same boat here. Just got the 2014 328i and the sound system is less than luxury.

I don't want to rattle the trunk or anything but is it possible to get a nice sound system installed, using the installed control system? Everyone I've asked recommends putting in navigation with dvd players and all of that- which i'm not interested in.

I don't mind paying good money for good quality- which is the reason I got this car in the first place.

What do you recommend to bring it up a notch. I saw that some of the previous recommended components aren't being sold- so please help!
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Old 01-18-2015, 11:57 PM
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essentially noone can really recommened a speaker to you since speakers sound different and you need to choose something that you like. Can absolutely point you in a direction but alot of it comes down to costs and how far you want to go in to installing it.
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Old 01-20-2015, 10:08 PM
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As far as I'm concerned, the most important is to add an equalizer.
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Old 02-04-2015, 01:19 PM
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OK, so I'm in the same boat here. Just got the 2014 328i and the sound system is less than luxury.

I don't want to rattle the trunk or anything but is it possible to get a nice sound system installed, using the installed control system? Everyone I've asked recommends putting in navigation with dvd players and all of that- which i'm not interested in.

I don't mind paying good money for good quality- which is the reason I got this car in the first place.

What do you recommend to bring it up a notch. I saw that some of the previous recommended components aren't being sold- so please help!
I just finished installing a JL Audio XD800/8v2 amp in my 2014 328i with the harness provided by Technic and I must say it is quite the improvement even though I am still using the stock speakers. I have it wired as an 8 channel amp with Y connectors for the RCA's. The fronts are Y'ed into inputs 1 and 3, and the rears into 2 and 4. I am using 1 for the fronts with the HP filter set to 200, 2 for the rears with same HP settings, 3 for the under seat woofers set the same as the others, and 4 bridged at 2 ohms with the LP filter set to around 200 for a ported Kicker sub in the trunk. I still have fader control and balance works properly. Other than tweaking the levels a bit to get the proper mix I am happy for now. Once I beat the **** out of the stock speakers and save up some money I will probably go with the Focal IFBWM-S for the fronts and Focal IFBMW-C for the rears. Until then I am quite happy with the upgrade since I only paid 595.00 for the XD800 and I already had the sub from a previous car. On that note I was actually surprised that a ported box works in the trunk without having to cut holes into the main cabin.

Ok I finished tuning it and it sounds like I nailed it with the factory speakers. I have a nice all around sound with no frequency holes in the music. That being said I think I can go with the Bavsound speakers instead of the Focals when I finally upgrade. Any thoughts on whether I should go with Focals or the less expensive Bavsound set?
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Old 02-18-2015, 12:54 AM
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I just finished installing a JL Audio XD800/8v2 amp in my 2014 328i with the harness provided by Technic and I must say it is quite the improvement even though I am still using the stock speakers. I have it wired as an 8 channel amp with Y connectors for the RCA's. The fronts are Y'ed into inputs 1 and 3, and the rears into 2 and 4. I am using 1 for the fronts with the HP filter set to 200, 2 for the rears with same HP settings, 3 for the under seat woofers set the same as the others, and 4 bridged at 2 ohms with the LP filter set to around 200 for a ported Kicker sub in the trunk. I still have fader control and balance works properly. Other than tweaking the levels a bit to get the proper mix I am happy for now. Once I beat the **** out of the stock speakers and save up some money I will probably go with the Focal IFBWM-S for the fronts and Focal IFBMW-C for the rears. Until then I am quite happy with the upgrade since I only paid 595.00 for the XD800 and I already had the sub from a previous car. On that note I was actually surprised that a ported box works in the trunk without having to cut holes into the main cabin.

Ok I finished tuning it and it sounds like I nailed it with the factory speakers. I have a nice all around sound with no frequency holes in the music. That being said I think I can go with the Bavsound speakers instead of the Focals when I finally upgrade. Any thoughts on whether I should go with Focals or the less expensive Bavsound set?
Sounds lioke you are on teh right track with the stock speakers.
The factory speakers are very capable with the proper processing. Most people jump in and swap the oem speakers out first and then need to do alot of processing later when they add an amp. If you need more sound, add a good amp or a couple of amps and if you still need more (which you have done), look into upgrading the speakers. I personally had great luck with stock Logic 7 speakers, they take a great deal of power and sound superb doing it!
(The Logic 7 Speakers are Harman Kardon/JBL anyways, makers of some unbelievable audio gear)
I think most people upgrade to BAV sound because they "see the difference" in the BAV sound speakers and the stockers because the BAV sound woofers have bigger motors. Bigger motors do not always mean stronger motors. In some speakers a smaller motor may be more efficient. Try comparing a Gladen set to the stock speakers, the Gladen motor is about half the size of the basic bmw motor but a fourth the size of the Logic 7 motor but still put out some great sound! Everyone has a different opinion of good sound and the only real way to determine a drivers capability is a RTA and proper power and install.
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Old 02-18-2015, 02:26 PM
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Sounds lioke you are on teh right track with the stock speakers.
The factory speakers are very capable with the proper processing. Most people jump in and swap the oem speakers out first and then need to do alot of processing later when they add an amp. If you need more sound, add a good amp or a couple of amps and if you still need more (which you have done), look into upgrading the speakers. I personally had great luck with stock Logic 7 speakers, they take a great deal of power and sound superb doing it!
(The Logic 7 Speakers are Harman Kardon/JBL anyways, makers of some unbelievable audio gear)
I think most people upgrade to BAV sound because they "see the difference" in the BAV sound speakers and the stockers because the BAV sound woofers have bigger motors. Bigger motors do not always mean stronger motors. In some speakers a smaller motor may be more efficient. Try comparing a Gladen set to the stock speakers, the Gladen motor is about half the size of the basic bmw motor but a fourth the size of the Logic 7 motor but still put out some great sound! Everyone has a different opinion of good sound and the only real way to determine a drivers capability is a RTA and proper power and install.
Thanks for the input. I have spent my time adjusting and tweaking the sound and I have it sounding better than when I started. I am actually running the under seat woofers on low pass and they complement the door speakers well which are both crossed over at about 200 on high pass. I have listened to a jazz cd and a Madonna cd, both which were recorded "DDD" and they are very close to perfect. I am hearing the muffled frequencies and it is a little trying on the hearing after awhile. My Stage 1 setup arrived yesterday and I will be installing them tomorrow so that should improve the frequency response and clean up the muffled sound. I am hoping not to have to tweak it anymore but we shall see. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Can you elaborate on your setup of the xd800 a bit more? Also why did you not go with a xd600?

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I just finished installing a JL Audio XD800/8v2 amp in my 2014 328i with the harness provided by Technic and I must say it is quite the improvement even though I am still using the stock speakers. I have it wired as an 8 channel amp with Y connectors for the RCA's. The fronts are Y'ed into inputs 1 and 3, and the rears into 2 and 4. I am using 1 for the fronts with the HP filter set to 200, 2 for the rears with same HP settings, 3 for the under seat woofers set the same as the others, and 4 bridged at 2 ohms with the LP filter set to around 200 for a ported Kicker sub in the trunk. I still have fader control and balance works properly. Other than tweaking the levels a bit to get the proper mix I am happy for now. Once I beat the **** out of the stock speakers and save up some money I will probably go with the Focal IFBWM-S for the fronts and Focal IFBMW-C for the rears. Until then I am quite happy with the upgrade since I only paid 595.00 for the XD800 and I already had the sub from a previous car. On that note I was actually surprised that a ported box works in the trunk without having to cut holes into the main cabin.

Ok I finished tuning it and it sounds like I nailed it with the factory speakers. I have a nice all around sound with no frequency holes in the music. That being said I think I can go with the Bavsound speakers instead of the Focals when I finally upgrade. Any thoughts on whether I should go with Focals or the less expensive Bavsound set?
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Can you elaborate on your setup of the xd800 a bit more? Also why did you not go with a xd600?

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Stew, I went with the XD800/8v2 because I wanted to run a subwoofer also. The 600 would have only fed the in cabin speakers. I took technics harness and 4 RCA Y cables and distributed as follows. The front channel RCA cable feeds the fronts and under seat woofers. The rear RCA feeds the rears and the sub in the trunk. That way I get a proper sound field with my fader. The fronts are crossed over as high pass at about 170hz and the under seat woofers are crossed as low pass at around 100hz. This turns the front speakers and woofers into a 3 way speaker. The rears are crossed as high pass at about 170 and the sub is crossed at around 170 as a low pass. I also have the Bavsound upgrade and the amp allows me to tweak the crossovers to my liking. If you want PM me and we can talk about any questions you have. The other reason I went with the 800 is because it fits in the space of the OEM amp like the 600 and does everything I need in that small space.
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OK,

I'm loving this thread-- there's so much detail in it, thank you all so much.

From what I'm reading, I want to add an amp and a 12" sub to the trunk. I like to play my music LOUD when I'm flying down the road and the stock setup obviously doesn't allow that. Before this car, I had a V6 Camry with a JBL stock system and it was amazing. I've never had to upgrade my system before so please forgive me for these questions.

If I were to add a sub and an amp, what brand is preferable, and easiest to work with regarding the stock speakers?

Also, has anyone added a 4" speaker to the center of the dashboard (the missing speaker on the hi-fi) system? What about upgrading the rear 4" speakers to add tweeters to them?

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Based on a lot of people's reviews, I've just ordered the Bavsound speakers for my F30, which are basically plug and play for the BMW. So I'd say they would fall into the easiest to work with, but I am certain others will chime in here on that comment :-) The center channel speaker in the front dash is functioning so not certain what you're getting at there. No comment on tweeters for the year, undoubedtly possible but I'd think it would involved some mods of the door panel.

Amp I am considering is the JL xd600/6v2 or possibly the JL xd800/8v2. Both seem popular and easy to install.

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