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X3 F25 (2011 - current)
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:21 PM
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Originally my order was going to be for a 28i which among other options was to have PDC and Rear View Cam. I didn't want the Driver Assist Package with top view cam. In discussing 28i vs 35i we said price diff between 28i and 35i was $2,500. The next day I called and we changed the order to a 35i yet when the pricing was being worked up the car was coming up about $2,700- $2,800 more for car with same options (obviously my 35i would include some standard stuff that was extra on 28i) and I could not figure out why. We did this by phone and he sent me a list of the options being ordered on the car and it was only with RVC and PDC.

On the tracking site I now see the car shows the Driver Assistance Package with top view cam. So now I know why the price diff.

Question, this is my 4th car with the sales guy and I think he gave me a good deal at about $500 over invoice so I am hesitant to say anything, but I know I could. I don't want to mess up a nice relationship. Is the top view cam useful as I didn't think I needed it or wanted it. If you guys think it is then I will just keep quiet. If it is just fluff then I suppose I could save $200.

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Old 05-01-2013, 07:30 PM
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Originally my order was going to be for a 28i which among other options was to have PDC and Rear View Cam. I didn't want the Driver Assist Package with top view cam. In discussing 28i vs 35i we said price diff between 28i and 35i was $2,500. The next day I called and we changed the order to a 35i yet when the pricing was being worked up the car was coming up about $2,700- $2,800 more for car with same options (obviously my 35i would include some standard stuff that was extra on 28i) and I could not figure out why. We did this by phone and he sent me a list of the options being ordered on the car and it was only with RVC and PDC.

On the tracking site I now see the car shows the Driver Assistance Package with top view cam. So now I know why the price diff.

Question, this is my 4th car with the sales guy and I think he gave me a good deal at about $500 over invoice so I am hesitant to say anything, but I know I could. I don't want to mess up a nice relationship. Is the top view cam useful as I didn't think I needed it or wanted it. If you guys think it is then I will just keep quiet. If it is just fluff then I suppose I could save $200.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Steve
How did you find it out from the tracking website? I ordered driver assistance package without topview camera but the website still lists it. I think it is just that the website technicians did not code the webpage correctly and simply listed out all the available options under driver assistance package.

In my case, I can see both "Rear-view camera" and "Rear View Camera with Top View" are listed while they are actually mutually exclusive.
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:40 PM
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Personally I love the top view camera and use it everyday. Definitely worth $200 in my mind.
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:50 PM
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TopView is well worth $200 and I use it every day. It is great for parking and avoiding nasty curb rash.The sales guy did you a huge favor.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:05 PM
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TopView is well worth $200 and I use it every day. It is great for parking and avoiding nasty curb rash.The sales guy did you a huge favor.
I agree, it is well worth it. Using it in combination with the rear view camera you can park your car anywhere without hitting anything.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:17 PM
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Thank you for your recommendations. I have RVC and PDC on my 2013 535xi so I didn't think I (my wife) would need more than that, so ultimately will see if the car has it on delivery.
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Old 05-02-2013, 04:31 AM
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I just picked up my car yesterday and mine listed top view camera on the tracking site too. But it will not be in your car.. I think it is something that shows up by default but will not be in the car unless you pay for it


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Old 05-02-2013, 08:04 AM
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As a NYC driver constantly dealing with parking in marked space lots and curb spaces, top view is the single most important option. DHP is the second most important for its value in coping with bad road surfaces and speed bumps.
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:35 AM
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Top View Camera Added by Dealer by Mistake

Top view is a must have when it comes to curbside parking or parking in narrow marked lanes. Very happy with it and use it every day.


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Old 05-02-2013, 09:14 AM
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In other words, you need it and you're not getting it.
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Old 05-02-2013, 11:03 AM
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TopView is well worth $200 and I use it every day. It is great for parking and avoiding nasty curb rash.The sales guy did you a huge favor.
+1, topview is one of my favorite features.
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Old 05-02-2013, 11:33 AM
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If you have average parking skill or better, you do not need top view. We had our car for almost 2 month and actually used the top view once and found it not too helpful.
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Old 05-02-2013, 11:34 AM
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I wouldn't get too excited about what the web site shows. Lots of experience by myself and others indicates that it is frequently inaccurate. The order submitted by your dealer is a much more reliable source than the web site.
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Old 05-02-2013, 11:34 AM
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Yeah. I had the top view showing as well. The car per my order didn't com with it.


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Old 05-02-2013, 12:34 PM
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If you have average parking skill or better, you do not need top view. We had our car for almost 2 month and actually used the top view once and found it not too helpful.
You don't need a BMW, cruise control, heated seats, sunroof, radio, navigation, etc..., either but for some people its still nice to have and doesn't say anything about their ability to park their vehicle.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:57 PM
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You don't need a BMW, cruise control, heated seats, sunroof, radio, navigation, etc..., either but for some people its still nice to have and doesn't say anything about their ability to park their vehicle.
All I am saying is that out of the three parking tools offered by BMW, rear view camera, parking sensor and top view camera, the top view is the least useful. You are correct that I do not need heated seats, sunroof, radio, navigation, etc, but I do use those options very often, which makes them worth the money. If you need the top view camera to park a car, it is a very useful tool. Too bad BMW doesnt offer a self park option.
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Old 05-02-2013, 01:54 PM
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Keep the camera. It is worth it the money! I enjoy this feature everyday!!
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Old 05-02-2013, 04:59 PM
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Trust me, The top view camera is very useful especially in parallel parking saving alot of bumps and dents to you and other cars, helps navigate away from getting any crub rashes to your rims.
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Old 05-02-2013, 05:15 PM
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TopView is well worth $200 and I use it every day. It is great for parking and avoiding nasty curb rash.The sales guy did you a huge favor.
I agree. I love it.
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Old 05-02-2013, 05:27 PM
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At this point I will just have to see how the car comes in. But, if as most believe, the dealer's order paperwork controls and not what is listed on the website it will not be on the car.

I will just have to hope that the Mrs. avoids curb rash!
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Old 05-02-2013, 05:33 PM
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Hey wait a minute...below is an excerpt from what the CA sent me, so now I am all confused. the order shows ZDA but makes no mention of top view. The BMW tracking page includes top view. I am sure one of you knows the answer.


ZDA Driver Assistance Package 950.00

3AG Rear-view camera N/C

508 Park Distance Control N/C
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Old 05-02-2013, 05:51 PM
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Hey wait a minute...below is an excerpt from what the CA sent me, so now I am all confused. the order shows ZDA but makes no mention of top view. The BMW tracking page includes top view. I am sure one of you knows the answer.


ZDA Driver Assistance Package 950.00

3AG Rear-view camera N/C

508 Park Distance Control N/C
I think it does not contain the top-view option. It is an extra $350 on the top of the $950. If you added it, you should not have "3AG Rear-view camera N/C".

As it shows, you only ordered rear-view camera indicated by "3AG Rear-view camera N/C"
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:57 PM
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Top-view is option 3AH.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:11 AM
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My X3 is in production now too and even thought I didn't order the top view camera (just the rear one) it is listed on there - so I think it is just a mistake on the website.
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Trust me, The top view camera is very useful especially in parallel parking saving alot of bumps and dents to you and other cars, helps navigate away from getting any crub rashes to your rims.
I agree. It has saved me several times from curb rash.


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