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E30 (1982 - 1993)
God's Chariot. The E30 was produced primarily from 1982 through 1991. The cabriolet was the one exception which was produced through 1993.

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Old 04-19-2013, 05:31 PM
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Car having trouble starting

A little lengthy, but I should be as specific as possible.

Last year around June, I bought a 1985 BMW 325e manual 6 cylinder. Before now, it's had starting problems and would need to charge over night. After about a month of this, I replaced the alternator and everything seemed to work. About February of this year, the problems started again. A month later I got a new battery because it would start and die a few minutes later. Everything seemed to be working. When I installed my amp and subs, the same problem happened again. It did this same thing for a week or so until it would refuse to start. I looked online and removed fuse number 27 and everything worked again for a couple days. It would turn over once and nothing. Now it just stops when I turn the are off and won't start. I jumped the battery, smacked the starter, and charged it over night. It would randomly start sometimes only after about an hour of waiting and cussing. I was going to get the starter tested, but while I was getting it out, I saw that a black and yellow wire was not connected. I thought I found the problem, but now it does not turn over. It clicks and makes a hum. I'm stumped now.
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Old 04-19-2013, 06:51 PM
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You still need to get the starter tested. And the battery. And the "new" alternator. Start there. One or more of them is bad.
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Old 04-19-2013, 07:32 PM
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also try running a 0 gauge wire from the the block somewhere to the body and clean the negative wire where it attaches to the body
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Old 04-19-2013, 07:48 PM
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+1 on the ground. I forgot about that. Had exactly that problem on my 633, and a #0 ground wire from the negative battery post to the starter mounting bolt cured the problem. I didn't figure it out. An old timer BMW tech did. Yes, even older than me.
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Old 04-20-2013, 03:07 PM
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Was looking at my ground wire and it looks like it's connected to a little plastic tab. From the side, it looks like an "L". The left side is metal where the cable is screwed in and looks glued to the inside of the car. Is this normal?
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Old 04-20-2013, 06:04 PM
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Car having trouble starting

Glued inside the car? That doesnt seem normal to me.


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Old 04-20-2013, 10:50 PM
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i would start there by running a bolt through it to the body
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Old 04-23-2013, 06:55 PM
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After doing chores and doing schoolwork, I remember a couple more detail about the car. When it was working, it would have trouble starting up and run fine. I was at a gas station when it decided to die on me one time. It would turn over once and then click click click.

Also, I'm having trouble taking the starter out. Today when I was able to work on my car again, I took out all the bolt I needed to. I was told that there are two bolts connecting the starter and the bell housing. is this right?
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:41 PM
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in that case your battery/alternator are going bad. remove and get tested.
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:08 PM
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So after a week of procrastination I decided to get back to working on my car. I got the top bolt, the bottom bolt, and the other wires but it will not come out.
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:36 AM
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Did you take the brace loose on the far end? (may or may not have one)
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Old 05-04-2013, 03:22 PM
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Old 05-04-2013, 04:03 PM
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I see a brace where it looks like it might have been connected to the bottom bolt I removed.
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:21 AM
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Old 05-19-2013, 11:13 AM
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I had to get help from my dad and had to wait until pay day to get a new starter. My alternator and battery are good, so now we are going to check the ignition switch. The starter makes no noise whatsoever, so that is where I am going to start.
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Old 05-19-2013, 12:11 PM
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Re: Car having trouble starting

Have you considered checking your ignition coil ? Cheaper than a starter and much more accessable too.

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Old 05-19-2013, 06:43 PM
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Alright, before I start buying anything else, I need to know that I did my wiring right. Three wire, thickest is black, he next thickest is a red wire with a smaller red wire attached to it. and a smaller black and yellow wire. The black and yellow wire go on the vertical prong(?) and the two thicker wire go on the starter with the longer bolt. Correct?
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Old 05-24-2013, 02:52 PM
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GOT IT!!!! It was a relay. I think it was the main relay, four pronged little bugger. Thank you every one and thank you for tolerating me
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