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Old 05-12-2013, 12:54 PM
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Need help fast! 404 dme what pin is 66????

just drove 185 miles to buy a 404 dme to swap out my 484 so i can run a dinan chip.. I need to do the ews bipass by cutting a wire or pin.. #66 i believe, witch one is that?

I did search for a diagram and could not find one for a 404 or 484 DME.. I wanna have it running in under an hour so a fast response would be GREAT!

IF ANYONE FOR SURE KNOWS WHAT TO DO HERE PLEASE HELP!



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Old 05-12-2013, 02:05 PM
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Any one? A lot of people have done this before.. Every link to a diagram is to old and died..


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Old 05-12-2013, 03:05 PM
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Please see dme clamp wiring diagram here :

http://qcwo.com/technicaldomain/ews-deletion-chip

It should be no different for your car.

Cut the wire in the bundle just behind the clampe, and not the metal pin itself on the clamp. This way you can restore youre ews system if you like.
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Old 05-12-2013, 03:08 PM
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Theres a very good chance the dinan chip is ews deleted already. They cant code it for your car specifically on a mass produced product. So you dont need to cut pin or wire 66. Could you try that first.

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Old 05-12-2013, 03:09 PM
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An 413 e36 m50 6 cyl DME is gonna have the same lay out as my v8 404 dme? REALLY?



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Old 05-12-2013, 03:12 PM
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I have the ecu with stock tune i got for 40$ i wanted to install and start before adding the chip..

Should i do the chip install w/o the wire cut and check? Dinan 404 chip in 404 dme on 484 car..



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Old 05-12-2013, 03:27 PM
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i just looked at my dme. and then that 413 diagram.. the diagram shows it being 11 pins in to the left from the bottom right corner..

I looked carefully and counted 11 pins in from the right on the same row of my 404 dme, it was green. i cut it, it worked!!!!

I am happy now. thanks guys

Time 4 the chip!




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Old 05-12-2013, 03:36 PM
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An 413 e36 m50 6 cyl DME is gonna have the same lay out as my v8 404 dme? REALLY?
Terminating clamps designations are usually the same. What each pin does for that particular engine, of course, is usually different. IN this case since #66's function is a public fact for the M60 engine. And it is the same #66 for the M50 engine too, so....its a sure bet.

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Old 05-12-2013, 05:47 PM
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Terminating clamps designations are usually the same. What each pin does for that particular engine, of course, is usually different. IN this case since #66's function is a public fact for the M60 engine. And it is the same #66 for the M50 engine too, so....its a sure bet.
I stated earlier that it was not the same, it was the opposite of the M50, as if it were in a mirror.. 11 pins in on the same row, but counting in from the other end..

The M50's spot for #66 on my car is yellow.. not green

The resin i would have been surprised is because the 404/484 are 2 boards stacked. Top chip has 1 row of pins, bottoms got 2 row's of pins on it, and 413 is a single board. just pop the cover and swap the chip.. no splitting the boards to get to it!


Any ways! How do other like there chip.. to me it feels strange.. my GF says it feels faster, im not so sure.. passenger perspective is so subjective. I did not disconnect the battery until now so idk if that will reset anything more than pulling the DME out to put n the chip but im trying that right now..

Also, its quieter.. DO NOT LIKE THAT ! KINDA WIERD

I feel like the rpm's fall slowly wondering if i got a auto chip.

I may also have some 89 still in the tank, that can make it slow..


Over all i think its just got a lot of learning to do.. Any thoughts.?






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Old 05-12-2013, 08:13 PM
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i just looked at my dme. and then that 413 diagram.. the diagram shows it being 11 pins in to the left from the bottom right corner..

I looked carefully and counted 11 pins in from the right on the same row of my 404 dme, it was green. i cut it, it worked!!!!

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I stated earlier that it was not the same, it was the opposite of the M50, as if it were in a mirror.. 11 pins in on the same row, but counting in from the other end..
Could you be reading the diagram in inverted form ?

Ok, lets ignore the middle row, common to both m50 and m60 dme clamps.

There are two rows to the left and right of that middle row. One row would have 33 pins, and the other row would have 27 pins.

According to the diagram, the row with the 33 pins would be the one with EWS pin #66, and it would be the 11th pin in from one end of that row. This way, there's not ambiguity.

Could you check ?

And please check if your Dinan chip works without #66 cut. It probably would, if not they'd have to ask you to send in your dme first before they send you the chip and your old dme back...
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Old 05-12-2013, 08:20 PM
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could you be reading the diagram in inverted form ?

Ok, lets ignore the middle row, common to both m50 and m60 dme clamps.

There are two rows to the left and right of that middle row. One row would have 33 pins, and the other row would have 27 pins.

According to the diagram, the row with the 33 pins would be the one with ews pin #66, and it would be the 11th pin in from one end of that row. This way, there's not ambiguity.

Could you check ?

And please check if your dinan chip works without #66 cut. It probably would, if not they'd have to ask you to send in your dme first before they send you the chip and your old dme back...
on my 404 dme with dinan 404 chip, i cut #78 on that diagram. It was green.. #66 in the diagram is yellow with a tiny green stripe on my 484 harness car..

Count 11 in from the beginning of the row, if its solid neon green. Cut it!

Should be #66 for 484 people.. it made my car start

And after 10 miles reset, temps dropped from 90 to 75 or so.. burnt a lil 91... And Woaa.. no shes movin for me, acting right.. some more time it really dial itself in..!




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Old 05-12-2013, 08:23 PM
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Or you can check these out :

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Old 05-12-2013, 08:31 PM
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holly crap! but it says what the pins do, did not see a diagram for location.. thanks for making me look for nothing though



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