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Old 05-12-2013, 09:01 PM
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:01 PM
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thank yall very much i really appreciate it..... because i couldnt find anything wrong with bushing thrust arms etc.... i sucked it up and took it to a shop and they checked everything again brakes, sway bar, suspension, thrust arms and anything known to deal with wobbling and the result was basically the about same result as when i did it nothing wrong EXCEPT the fact i need new tires :/ and they said 99.99% sure that will fix the prob i knew i needed new tires soon but from what i hear, BMW's are tempermental when it comes to that kind of thing.... ANY suggestions on what type of tires i should get... i live in the city and travel a lot.... and i want to know if 206-65-15 are the correct size tires that should be on their
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:43 PM
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Guess the regulars were wrong.

Have you tried rotating your wheels around front to back. If you have unbalanced wheels on the front, moving them to the rear will change it up. Will help you to confirm the problem without spending a lot up front.

And the stock tire size "I believe" is 205/65 R15

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Old 05-14-2013, 11:27 PM
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Old 05-15-2013, 02:23 AM
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Guess the regulars were wrong.
not an entirely fair comment.

one assumes you would know the condition of your tyres, and would be checking very basic things like this before posting on a forum

we could point out all the different possibilities, but, on an E34, 95% of the time its the thrust arms, and it is assumed here that members do have a small degree of knowledge before posting.
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Old 05-15-2013, 04:53 AM
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Besides the fact that the tires have not yet been replaced and the problem has not yet been cured.

Does this mean that when the shop is wrong about it being tires that they then "got it wrong"? How about the fact that the shop can actually SEE the vehicles and we are trying to help from a great distance. If you do not like the help you get, do not ask for help As mentioned, those of us with experience have tried to suggest the most likely failure points. I find it highly unlikely that most small shops have any experience with the particular failings of this model. On the other hand, the regulars here have been there and done that.
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Old 05-15-2013, 06:08 AM
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besides the fact that the tires have not yet been replaced and the problem has not yet been cured.

Does this mean that when the shop is wrong about it being tires that they then "got it wrong"? How about the fact that the shop can actually see the vehicles and we are trying to help from a great distance. If you do not like the help you get, do not ask for help as mentioned, those of us with experience have tried to suggest the most likely failure points. I find it highly unlikely that most small shops have any experience with the particular failings of this model. On the other hand, the regulars here have been there and done that.
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:22 AM
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Guess the regulars were wrong....

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Umm ....

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not an entirely fair comment.

one assumes you would know the condition of your tyres, and would be checking very basic things like this before posting on a forum

we could point out all the different possibilities, but, on an E34, 95% of the time its the thrust arms, and it is assumed here that members do have a small degree of knowledge before posting.
Well put Andy

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Besides the fact that the tires have not yet been replaced and the problem has not yet been cured.

Does this mean that when the shop is wrong about it being tires that they then "got it wrong"? How about the fact that the shop can actually SEE the vehicles and we are trying to help from a great distance. If you do not like the help you get, do not ask for help As mentioned, those of us with experience have tried to suggest the most likely failure points. I find it highly unlikely that most small shops have any experience with the particular failings of this model. On the other hand, the regulars here have been there and done that.
Agreed. OP still has not said that the problem is fixed.


I don't usually do multiple quotes, but I, for one, think your your attitude sucks Chuck. Your remark was totally uncalled for. Nowhere has anyone here been harsh with OP or anything like that. We "regulars" are here because we love the E34 just like you do. We've just had ours for a long enough time to learn a lot about them; sometimes from bad decisions we made. We learn and assist others from our experience where we can. Heck, I'm glad to be wrong if the possibility that I espouse is an expensive repair.

Having said that, it's good to have you here if you can contribute and be positive. If not, then perhaps you should find another forum.
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:25 AM
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Guess the regulars were wrong.

Have you tried rotating your wheels around front to back. If you have unbalanced wheels on the front, moving them to the rear will change it up. Will help you to confirm the problem without spending a lot up front.

And the stock tire size "I believe" is 205/65 R15

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Wheel rotation and wheel balancing will not cure the 55mph shimmy. As will getting new tires. Provided the shimmy there is caused by the upper arm bushes.

The shimmy also feels different from the vibrations you get from unbalanced wheels and worn tires. It is a shimmy, and not vibration.
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Old 05-16-2013, 05:12 AM
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Wheel rotation and wheel balancing will not cure the 55mph shimmy. As will getting new tires. Provided the shimmy there is caused by the upper arm bushes.

The shimmy also feels different from the vibrations you get from unbalanced wheels and worn tires. It is a shimmy, and not vibration.

Wrong again bobby. The 55mph shimmy feels the same if it where unbalanced tires, worn suspension components or warped brake rotors, ANY of those could cause this problem.

I am amazed that you have tried to draw a line between a shimmy and a vibration.... You must have a highly tuned posterior
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Old 05-16-2013, 07:23 AM
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I can't remember which or if both. When you replace the Thrust arms and/ or CAs you have to do it underload to prevent premature wear.
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Old 05-16-2013, 07:30 AM
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I can't remember which or if both. When you replace the Thrust arms and/ or CAs you have to do it underload to prevent premature wear.
Both.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:07 AM
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hold up people.... im not trying to trash anyone, i really appreciate yalls input for sure...... my previous car basically had racing slicks on it lol but when i had bought this car it was mentioned to me that if balancing, tires, etc are very tempermental on this ride and if they are not to code or whatever it can cause tricky issues.... my tires are getting worn but i didnt think it was that big of an issue that why i was asking yall about it and i took yalls input into high consideration when talking with mechanics.. and it wasnt just some lil shop it was an actual BMW shop in reno, nv .... again i thank yall for your input i respect evryones opinion
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:22 AM
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Ok so you're looking for tires?!?
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Old 05-16-2013, 12:50 PM
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hold up people.... im not trying to trash anyone, i really appreciate yalls input for sure...... my previous car basically had racing slicks on it lol but when i had bought this car it was mentioned to me that if balancing, tires, etc are very tempermental on this ride and if they are not to code or whatever it can cause tricky issues.... my tires are getting worn but i didnt think it was that big of an issue that why i was asking yall about it and i took yalls input into high consideration when talking with mechanics.. and it wasnt just some lil shop it was an actual BMW shop in reno, nv .... again i thank yall for your input i respect evryones opinion

Is the problem cured????
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Old 05-21-2013, 03:23 PM
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check ur wheels i bet there not oem fit
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:09 AM
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I am trying to order a set of Front Shocks, Lemforder Control arms with ball joints and Lemforder bushings to be seperately pressed in.

Quote from a well known seller in USA (name not being disclosed obviously):

PART# QTY PRODUCT PRICE TOTAL
31121141097L 1 BMW Control Arm Front Left Upper - Lemforder (OEM) 31121141097L $104.95 $104.95
31121141098L 1 BMW Control Arm Front Right Upper - Lemforder (OEM) 31121141098L $104.95 $104.95
31121136605 2 BMW Control Arm Bushing Front - Lemforder (OEM) 31121136605 $23.95 $47.90
31121139987L 1 BMW Control Arm Left Lower (E28 E24 E32 E34) - Lemforder 31121139987L $127.95 $127.95
31121139988L 1 BMW Control Arm Right Lower (E28 E24 E32 E34) - Lemforder 31121139988L $127.95 $127.95
312-254 2 BMW Suspension Strut Cartridge (525i E34) - Sachs OEM 312-254 $118.95 $237.90
71054 1 BMW Fuel Filter - Bosch 13321270038 $7.95 $7.95
The above excludes Shipping.

I almost finalized the order before processing and just double checked with the sales person if all the Lemforder and Sachs stuff would be obviously 'Made in Germany', to which he very innocently declined saying that he cannot guarantee country of manufacture. It could be from Asia, Europe or wherever. I was not expecting this.
So now I am here seeking the Experts/Pros advise as to what my options could be when I am waiting for months to develop and stretch out on a budget for the OEM stuff that should rather be 'Made in Germany' which my meagerly run E34 deserves from its hometown.
If it is not for the OEM German stuff to die and vouch for I could easily order them at practically half the pricing from other non standard companies manufacturing elsewhere.
I am trying to keep my E34 low run as it is a rare piece today with 14K miles but do not want to compromise on genuine parts and maintenance.

Awaiting your professional comments.
Thanks guys.
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Old 10-07-2013, 10:09 PM
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For what it's worth, I finally got the coin together to get my worn out struts replaced and my shudder went away completely. Like driving a new car again and yes I'm still running the spacers on my e-36 wheels.


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