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Old 05-03-2013, 04:27 PM
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'95 525i Transmission braking and turning issues

OK, I will try to explain this the best way I can.

Start the car, let it idle for second or so, back out the garage. Put it in drive, half a beat then (shift) drive car away. No problem

Stop at the stop sign on the corner... stopped for a few seconds, car will shift into gear while foot is on brake (no problem)

BUT

If I try to "California stop" i.e. roll though it... transmission stays in neutral for a second, engine revs then it drops into gear... sometimes hard depending on how much gas I gave it.
This is the same as stopping at a red light that changes before coming to a complete stop, braking for someone taking their sweet ass time to turn out of the roadway etc...

Ok that's annoying, It worries me but if I am aware of it I can adjust my driving style to compensate for it.

It will also "throw" itself out of gear (into neutral for lack of better nomenclature) when cornering at speed (i.e. turning onto my street without coming to a stop) I have to take the turn and wait a few beats for the tranny to drop back into gear before hitting the gas otherwise high revving blah blah blah...

Likewise... annoying but I can work around it.

Sudden stopping, also referred to as a "panic stop"... engine stalls (will start up immediately on ignition switch cycling)

It acts like I slammed on the brakes in manual without engaging the clutch (as I'm sure is actually the case. The clutch most likely didn't have time to engage)

This one is a bit more that annoying because it happens more often that I like, someone hits brakes too fast, cuts me off, last second light changes... I'm sure you can imagine circumstances in which you have to stop suddenly. Then I am dead and have to restart my car which is really embarrassing.

What it feels like to me is the AT clutch is slow, sticky or just not firing properly. I have read several threads on this board and other from people that have similar descriptions but everything I have found is at least a decade old and no positive affirmations on what the cures for the problem was.

Well, more specifically not for this model car. There's some thing about holding down gas pedal with key in a position but that appears to be for later model cars (and it didn't work anyways) also there was a thread that talked about disconnecting the battery and touching the leads together to clear the computer memory, followed by a few more threads that said to NEVER reset the AT computer unless you service it or upgrade it.

Several more suggested checking/filling the AT fluid. I just had the car serviced and they told me the AT fluid was fine.

One thread was from a member that took his car to 4 different mechanic and the fourth one was able to hook up the vehicle to a computer and do a reset and clear a stuck solenoid.

My problem (as I am sure is the same as many other members) is I don't have unlimited funds to sink into the beast... (if I did I would have bought a new one) and I know that transmission service is massively and prohibitively expensive.

I don't have the time or money to drag it from shop to shop just to get this bastard diagnosed.

Anyone else have this issue and get a resolution to it?

Any help appreciated.
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:03 PM
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In reading your post, it sounds like low fluid level. But, you said that was checked. I hope the person that checked it is aware of the special procedure for checking the level.

The other issue of it stalling, sounds like your torque converter may have given up the ghost. Not sure on this though.
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Old 05-04-2013, 05:48 PM
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Re: '95 525i Transmission braking and turning issues

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In reading your post, it sounds like low fluid level. But, you said that was checked. I hope the person that checked it is aware of the special procedure for checking the level.
^ this + 1
The other issue of it stalling, sounds like your torque converter may have given up the ghost. Not sure on this though.


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Old 05-05-2013, 06:58 PM
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'95 525i Transmission braking and turning issues

Have a friend that owns an AAMCO (convenient I know) told me he would check it out for me and let me know.

Will post up the results.


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Old 05-05-2013, 07:30 PM
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Check your error codes both thru the stomp tesr and at a transmission shop to read your trabny's codes.

And clean your throttle position sensor and connector with cobtact cleaner and toothbrush. 5 minute job might help.
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Old 05-07-2013, 03:28 PM
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'95 525i Transmission braking and turning issues

It was the fluid... Flushed and filled and good as new.

Thanks for the advice guys.


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Old 05-07-2013, 04:06 PM
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Sorry to hijack this thread but how do you check it? I have e34 95 540i Auto. Mine seems like it is starting to slip, if i brake then get right back to accelerating, turn and accelerate, or on hills it bucks or jerks a bit the starts moving fine and if still doing what caused it(hills, turn ) it does it till i coast a bit.
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Old 05-07-2013, 10:25 PM
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'95 525i Transmission braking and turning issues

It was the fluid... Flushed and filled and good as new.

Thanks for the advice guys


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Old 05-07-2013, 10:26 PM
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'95 525i Transmission braking and turning issues

Ok, this is good advice...

When a shop "inspects" your vehicle for you while doing maintenance... Make sure they tighten you lug bolts.

My wheel fell off on my way home from the tranny shop.... Needless to say I am absolutely livid.


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Old 05-08-2013, 05:16 AM
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Ok, this is good advice...

When a shop "inspects" your vehicle for you while doing maintenance... Make sure they tighten you lug bolts.

My wheel fell off on my way home from the tranny shop.... Needless to say I am absolutely livid.


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Glad you're okay. Any damage to the disc or anything like that?
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Old 05-10-2013, 01:46 PM
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'95 525i Transmission braking and turning issues

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Holy Cow

Glad you're okay. Any damage to the disc or anything like that?
No damage to the disc other than the dust shield being bent... Luckily it didn't decide to remove itself from the vehicle until i was making a very slow and cautious right hand turn... UNFORTUNATELY, it was into a grocery store parking lot and the driveway was uphill. so, i had to call a tow. also snapped off two of the bolts inside the hub and stripped the threads on a 3rd hole. so when the truck arrived and got the car jacked was only able to attach 2 bolts thankfully i got those on because he said he would have to drag my car onto the truck if i hadn't. yay.

The next day (had to go to work to try and make up the money for the $105 tow bill) I was able to get the broken pieces of the bolts out of the hub and the tire shop was kind enough to re-thread the 3 rd damaged hole. So now I'm at least rolling again.

The spacer was destroyed... Tire shop said the wheel is wrecked but they are a bit picky... All I can see on the wheel is some scratching to the inner wheel alloy. It's a moot point though until I get a new spacer I'm rocking the spare :-/

But aside from a bruised ego and that ugly damn spare... I'm good


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Old 05-10-2013, 03:09 PM
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I hope the shop covers ALL of your costs to bring it back to the condition it was in prior to the incident. That could have been disastrous if that wheel had come off at speed
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1991 735i - Sold
1992 525i - Sold
1995 325is - Sold
2000 528i - Sold

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Old 05-17-2013, 05:15 PM
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It was the fluid... Flushed and filled and good as new.

Thanks for the advice guys


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Did you flush it your self or take it to a shop?
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Old 05-17-2013, 05:42 PM
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'95 525i Transmission braking and turning issues

Took it to aamco


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Old 05-18-2013, 06:36 AM
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Why would a tranny shop have to remove any of the wheels? There is no reason to remove the wheels in order to do a trans flush.
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:54 AM
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Why would a tranny shop have to remove any of the wheels? There is no reason to remove the wheels in order to do a trans flush.
Good point sled. Perhaps they were inspecting his brake pads and rotors. He did note that they "inspected" it.
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1992 525i - Sold
1995 325is - Sold
2000 528i - Sold

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Old 05-18-2013, 09:19 AM
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'95 525i Transmission braking and turning issues

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Good point sled. Perhaps they were inspecting his brake pads and rotors. He did note that they "inspected" it.
Yes... They performed a maintenance inspection, it's all been taken care of now as well, everything is back to normal.




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Old 05-18-2013, 10:42 AM
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Yes... They performed a maintenance inspection, it's all been taken care of now as well, everything is back to normal.




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1991 735i - Sold
1992 525i - Sold
1995 325is - Sold
2000 528i - Sold

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