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X5 E70 (2007 - 2013)
E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 04-23-2013, 09:17 AM
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At a stop light with the family and the 22 foot ski boat behind the X5M, some kid pulls up in his Civic and revs his engine, slap the M in launch control, light turns green and rocket away, with the freaking boat attached...


Time to go test drive an X5M, but bring my boat along so that I can try that..
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Old 04-23-2013, 12:56 PM
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While we are at it, what are 0-60 numbers with loaded trailer?
Ha! That I don't know, but my DAQ shows me I've pulled 4.2-4.4 0-60s (with nothing in tow!)
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Old 04-25-2013, 05:04 AM
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"Here are a few things I have towed with my X5 35D. Never had a problem. I used a hitch from Europe because I did not want to cut up the bumper. That diesel just loves to tow on the highway! I don't have the third row seat option, but the car came stock with the rear air suspension."

KaKalika,

I'm in the same boat as you, no third row but have air suspension and, I am also using a european hitch.


Video of my European Hitch opening and closing.


http://s1087.photobucket.com/user/ex...video.mp4.html


Here are a few pictures of the trailer.

Heading to the track.


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At the track


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Truck and trailer at track


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I love how well the X5 tows.


I'm not quite sure how link the hitch open/close video without it opening photbucket. It also seems as if the video quality suffers from opening the video this way, but, you get the point.

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Old 04-25-2013, 07:34 AM
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WOW!! That is so cool! Love it.
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:36 AM
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Video of my European Hitch opening and closing.
That hitch is awesome. Love the harness outlet on the side of it too.
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:40 AM
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the automated hitch it indeed awesome, but too bad it only offers the ball thingy, which means no bike rack potential
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:56 AM
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"Here are a few things I have towed with my X5 35D. Never had a problem. I used a hitch from Europe because I did not want to cut up the bumper. That diesel just loves to tow on the highway! I don't have the third row seat option, but the car came stock with the rear air suspension."

KaKalika,

I'm in the same boat as you, no third row but have air suspension and, I am also using a european hitch.

Video of my European Hitch opening and closing.

http://s1087.photobucket.com/user/ex...video.mp4.html

Here are a few pictures of the trailer.
Heading to the track.


I love how well the X5 tows.


I'm not quite sure how link the hitch open/close video without it opening photbucket. It also seems as if the video quality suffers from opening the video this way, but, you get the point.
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the automated hitch it indeed awesome, but too bad it only offers the ball thingy, which means no bike rack potential



Exactly... I find the Euro hitches ugly and completely impractical. I go to Europe every few years and cars with those things on the back look horrible.

Some things are better in EU, but I gotta say that our N.A. square hitch receiver concept beats the Euro ball in a heartbeat. Both from the aesthetic's standpoint and practicality.

You can plug just about anything into a square receiver, you can add extensions and splitters and when you're done, you simply disconnect your hitch and cover the hole making it sometimes completely invisible. It looks sweet and has endless abilities. Funny how Europeans (which I am personally) won't learn from us on this side of the pond. But then, they probably don't tow nearly as much as we do over here.... All this "green" stuff, expensive gas and 1.5l engines....

How could this be done with a Euro hitch is beyond me.





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Old 04-25-2013, 11:53 AM
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Some of the European/North-American differences in towing equipment are probably cultural. For instance, in my experience you would rarely find anyone "over there" who actually has a need or a desire to tow what you pictured. Lifestyles are generally different.

In fairness however, the differences between European and North American hitches are primarily driven by two very different regulatory environments. In Europe, a hitch must pass dynamic testing that involves approximately 2 million cycles of forward/aft and side/side forces with the full-rated load attached. The U.S. requires one-time static load testing only. To the best of my knowledge, a U.S.-style sliding square-tube receiver has never passed the Euro dynamic test because there is necessarily a substantial amount of play in a sliding square-tube receiver. The play causes it to blow up under heavy, repetitive cycling. An argument could be made that the Europeans are over regulating by requiring dynamic load tests, but metal fatigue is very real. Not coincidentally, the European tow rating for a vehicle is often 20% higher than the North American tow rating for the same vehicle.

We try to provide the best of both worlds by passing the Euro dynamic load tests with a zero-play ball mount for towing, while also offering a classic U.S. square-tube connector for attaching racks. Even then, we occasionally get dinged for not supporting both towing and rack attachment simultaneously, as is shown in your picture. Perhaps that will be next year's project.

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Old 04-25-2013, 03:28 PM
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the automated hitch it indeed awesome, but too bad it only offers the ball thingy, which means no bike rack potential
I've never looked for a bike rack that could mount to this style hitch because I mount the bikes on a roof rack (old school I know). I guess you could always use this rack sold by BMW and still use the hitch. Although I'm not sure if there would be any clearance problems with bikes mounted


http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...rack-pics.html

Although what yogi799 is using looks like it works just fine. I prefer not having the receiver style hitch and the hole you must cut into the bumper cover. What I like most about this option is you don't see it when not in use, I don't have to remove and store the ball when done towing. I just push a button and the hitch disappears until I need it again.

To each their own, I can see where this hitch may not have some useful features and is somewhat limited but it fits my needs perfectly
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:52 PM
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That Honda/Acura thingy looks like it is ready to snap in half. Yuck.
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:36 PM
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That Honda/Acura thingy looks like it is ready to snap in half. Yuck.
Nah, wasn't too bad but this is precisely why the next ride is either a used E70 or the new F15....
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Old 04-26-2013, 05:57 AM
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Nah, wasn't too bad but this is precisely why the next ride is either a used E70 or the new F15....
Nice. With air sus and AD, an X5 is one heck of a tow vehicle.
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:21 AM
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Nice. With air sus and AD, an X5 is one heck of a tow vehicle.
Yeah, I know but the MDX just doesn't want to die! ( ?)

Oppps... Now I've probbaly jinxed it.... I really can't afford another 80k expense at this time...
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:51 AM
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^^ Don't worry Chris, two long tows with your new boat, and I'm sure your tranny will give you what you want
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Old 04-26-2013, 12:31 PM
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^^ Don't worry Chris, two long tows with your new boat, and I'm sure your tranny will give you what you want


The problem is... I can rebuild it for less than $2k.
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Old 04-26-2013, 12:37 PM
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^^ I'm doing Electrical over Hydraulic brakes, basically getting rid of my surge brakes. I have to replace the actuator with a fixed one, and I'm going to use Titan Brakerite II
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Old 05-18-2013, 02:23 PM
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Just got an Invisihitch. Now I can tow this bad boy with a 2 5/16 coupler.

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Old 05-18-2013, 04:40 PM
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Nice trailer. If I could go enclosed I'd go for something exactly like that. I bet that low roof line makes a real difference in fuel economy. What are you hauling in it?
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Old 05-18-2013, 05:46 PM
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As far as I understand, unless you specifically ordered option code 220 when building your car:
- Up to 2009, if you ordered the spare wheel or 3rd row seats you automatically got load-leveling.
- From 2010 on, you only got load-leveling if you ordered 3rd row seats.
I have a 07' with 3rd row and have self leveling.
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:50 PM
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we want to see what' inside the box cool low profile trailer, very nice.
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Old 05-19-2013, 12:13 AM
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I did a bit of towing this past week with the diesel.

First trip out on the boat for the year.


Moved some furniture 80miles.
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Old 05-19-2013, 06:28 AM
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Nice boat Is it a Four Winns? Isn't it cool to be able to tow a big trailer any time you want. You never know when you will need it.
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Old 05-19-2013, 05:56 PM
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I love towing things. Replaced an 08 Silverado with the X5D. Had the 6.0 in it, and tuned it up with headers and exhaust. Thing would tow a LOT of weight.

X5D isn't QUITE as capable towards that limit, but for this boat and anything under it in size, it tows very nicely. Sometimes I noticed it lags at stop lights if i really need to get on it. Have to wait for the turbo to spool and then it takes off. Just a little different than an NA motor, but still very capable.

And yep. 07 Four Winns Horizon 210 SS. Very fun boat!
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:08 AM
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Planning on towing my 25 ft Cobalt about 600 mi to a new location. My X has dealer installed OE hitch with back up camera features.

Trailer is a Venture aluminum, dual axle trailer with disc surge brakes, leaf springs. Bought new in 2011, currently has 1K mi on it. Brake fluid has never been flushed. Standard non-radial, bias ply 15" tires, inflated to 50psi. Wheel bearings have not been re-greased.

Any suggestions before I undertake this journey next month?
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:24 AM
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Check brake fluid reservoir. Check tire inflation pressure for the load you are carrying (50 PSI seems low, I'm running 80 PSI in my load range E tires, and the same size boat). Check your hub seals on the inside of the wheel, if necessary, regrease bearings (or use bearing buddies). Use an IR thermometer to monitor the temperature of the hubs at rest stops. If one is abnormally high, you have a problem. The one thing I didn't see on your trailer is a spare tire. You might want to buy a spare tire and carrier.
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