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The sixth generation 3 series, chassis code F30. 2013 model year 328i and 335i sedans now in production. Read the F30 frequently asked question thread for all your basic question and dive into all the details in the ultimate F30 information thread.

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Old 05-20-2013, 01:15 PM
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335xi or X1 28i....

I had myself all ready to buy an X1 and then I looked a little closer at the 335...

Background: I'm currently driving a WRX hatch and I like it but I want something more refined and quieter on the highway. My other big requirement is that I store my Miata sideways up against the wall of my garage in the winter, and the X1 is short enough to still fit, but the 335 is not. In fact, the X1 is basically a more refined WRX on stilts (which I might lower...) I also like hatchbacks a lot...

I've test driven the X1 and I like it a lot, but there's something to be said for the 335. What really surprised me was doing a little searching here it looks like people are getting ridiculously good mpgs out of their 335s. The 28xi X1 has a higher drag coefficient but still people are reporting 27mpg in mixed driving, 22mpg city, and 29 or 30 highway. The X1 35xi's mileage is pretty poor and I won't consider it.

My research in threads here shows roughly the same numbers for the 6cyls of the 335 and frankly I'm shocked.

So what's the deal? Nobody makes exactly the car I want so I'm trying to pick which compromises to make. This is the F30 forum so I figure you folks will be pro 335 but I'd like to hear more mileage reports and what's good and bad about the 335. Thanks!
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Old 05-20-2013, 01:55 PM
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F30 wagon?
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Old 05-20-2013, 01:59 PM
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I had myself all ready to buy an X1 and then I looked a little closer at the 335...

Background: I'm currently driving a WRX hatch and I like it but I want something more refined and quieter on the highway. My other big requirement is that I store my Miata sideways up against the wall of my garage in the winter, and the X1 is short enough to still fit, but the 335 is not. In fact, the X1 is basically a more refined WRX on stilts (which I might lower...) I also like hatchbacks a lot...

I've test driven the X1 and I like it a lot, but there's something to be said for the 335. What really surprised me was doing a little searching here it looks like people are getting ridiculously good mpgs out of their 335s. The 28xi X1 has a higher drag coefficient but still people are reporting 27mpg in mixed driving, 22mpg city, and 29 or 30 highway. The X1 35xi's mileage is pretty poor and I won't consider it.

My research in threads here shows roughly the same numbers for the 6cyls of the 335 and frankly I'm shocked.

So what's the deal? Nobody makes exactly the car I want so I'm trying to pick which compromises to make. This is the F30 forum so I figure you folks will be pro 335 but I'd like to hear more mileage reports and what's good and bad about the 335. Thanks!
The X1 is on the older 1 series (basically the E90) chassis which to many is a positive. The xDrive versions also have the older hydraulic steering which is to anyone interested in sporty dynamics a positive. The F30 has a more modern and higher quality interior according to many. It's heavier and has a higher center of gravity but is basically a taller E90 wagon but with the new engine and transmission. I'm interested in the X1 as it's priced very well but if I had the budget I'd prefer the F30 335xi (actually the RWD version) for me.
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Old 05-20-2013, 02:09 PM
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My wife hates the look of the wagon, unfortunately.

Yeah I've done a bunch of research into the X1 and man if it came in a regular height hatchback form I think I'd have trouble saying no. But of course that's something I can change. I've also looked into the bms stage 1 and it sounds great. I read in some other threads that some people don't like the N20 but I think it's a pretty amazing engine, myself.

I knew people were complaining about the 328 being soft but I had figured the 335 would still be sporty. I guess you've talked me into going with the X1. :-) Hey, even optioned out like crazy it's still cheaper.
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Old 05-20-2013, 03:05 PM
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F30 wagon?
The F31 wagon 328xit is around $10K more than an X1 xDrive28i. Less difference for a X1 xDrive35i, of course, but you can't get the N55 in the wagon (in the US).
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Old 05-20-2013, 03:27 PM
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i test drove the X1 but i did not like it, end up getting 328xi, 328i with Msport is still very good car.
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I'll chime in about mileage... If you're conscious about gas, you can drive relatively conservatively and not take any extreme/special measures (like driving in eco pro, not accelerating, etc) and average 25-27 mpg rather painlessly. Spirited driving will take you down into the low 20s (21-23 mpg; perhaps lower depending on your style). If you drive eco pro 100%, don't ever jam the gas pedal, and don't go over 65mph, drive 75% highway, you can probably get 30+mpg.

Also, I'm commenting from a 335 xDrive. The RWD will get even better mpg than what I'm stating here. Add 2-3 mpg per category.
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My wife hates the look of the wagon, unfortunately.

Yeah I've done a bunch of research into the X1 and man if it came in a regular height hatchback form I think I'd have trouble saying no. But of course that's something I can change. I've also looked into the bms stage 1 and it sounds great. I read in some other threads that some people don't like the N20 but I think it's a pretty amazing engine, myself.

I knew people were complaining about the 328 being soft but I had figured the 335 would still be sporty. I guess you've talked me into going with the X1. :-) Hey, even optioned out like crazy it's still cheaper.
Based on what you've said you like I think the X1 is a very good choice. The 28 has the four mated to the new 8AT. The 35 has the N55 I6 and for some reason it is still mated to the 6AT. I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the I6, so that's what I'd choose regardless of the fuel mileage. The N20 is not nearly as refined as BMW's I6 motors, but it is still proving to be a very good motor.
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Old 05-21-2013, 03:16 AM
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I have driven many cars in last 20 years from very good advertised gas milage to poor also, the bmws all of them are best in gas milage with performance, I was getting close to 600 miles per tank on my e90 on highway and in city mix mode 400 miles per tank, my Camry never gave me those gas milage and it was advertised for those gas milage, with bmws u will get close what sticker says. The f30 is even better in gas milage you will save a bit more as compared to e90
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Old 05-21-2013, 04:21 AM
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Yeah I test drove both the 35 and 28 and while the 35 was faaaaaaaaaaast I came to the conclusion that the 28 is 'fast enough' especially if I throw a BMS tuner on it. I also like that it's 200 lbs lighter and has a better weight distribution. Add onto that the difference in fuel economy and the answer was obvious. When it comes to MPG what I like is a car that I can drive gently and coax good numbers from if I want, but but which also can come alive and go fast if I decide to throw petrol to the wind.

Thanks, all. I think you're right and the X1 is the one for me.
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