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Old 06-13-2013, 05:21 PM
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Run flat repair or replace the $500 question.

Today I herd a tapping sound coming from one of my rear tires, when I took a closer look I found screw in the center of the tire tread. I tried to remove it and when I start to pull it out I herd air starting to leak out, so I stopped. The TPS shows everything as ok.

The car has less then 1000 miles on it so the tires are new. The dealer states the tire has to be replaced at the cost of $500. I have had run flats on a BMW before but never had to cross this bridge. So the question is can I patch this tire and not be warred about it compromising the tire.
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Old 06-13-2013, 05:35 PM
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Run flat repair or replace the $500 question.

Lol, in jersey our roads sucks I was forced to purchase the tire insurance from the dealer, so far had 2 flats in a year which made it justifiable.

In your case, if the damage is near the side walls, it's better to replace, otherwise without pictures it really depends on your good judgement. Also your tire is still new, it's better also to get a new tire to have uniform wear.


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Old 06-13-2013, 06:47 PM
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I'd repair - I have done so before with a run-flat and would do so again without hesitation. As for tire wear, the tire on the car is better-matched wear-wise to the other wheel than a new unworn tire would be.

Unless you've run on the tire for a distance without air, I'd have zero hesitation at all in repairing a run flat where the breach is in the center of the tire. I'd only replace if I were planning to track the car and/or run at very high speeds for an extended period. Absent either of those two, and you can't do the latter in the US anyway, I'd repair that tire in a heartbeat.
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:16 PM
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Find a place that can patch them. Unless the screw is in the shoulder or side-wall, you can get it fixed. No reason to drop $500
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Old 06-13-2013, 08:05 PM
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Run flat repair or replace the $500 question.

Just had a flat myself... Dealer price was $524 in So. FL. Thank god I had the tire/wheel insurance. No deductible, paid $1000 for 3 years. One more flat and the insurance paid for itself!


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Old 06-14-2013, 06:35 AM
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If the sidewall is not compromised, a runflat is no different from a normal tire. I dont replace my non-flat tires everytime I get a flat and the same hold true for runflat tires as well.
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Old 06-14-2013, 05:31 PM
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I found someone to do the repair, let me tell you it was not easy! Called over 6 shops. The only bad thing is that they chewed up the rim reinstalling the tire. So I'm off to the dealer anyway for a rim repair on their dime. What an incoveanice, most shops really don't have the right equipment or training to deal with the stiffness of the run flats.
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Old 06-14-2013, 11:05 PM
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I found someone to do the repair, let me tell you it was not easy! Called over 6 shops. The only bad thing is that they chewed up the rim reinstalling the tire. So I'm off to the dealer anyway for a rim repair on their dime. What an incoveanice, most shops really don't have the right equipment or training to deal with the stiffness of the run flats.
You may be able to get a replacement tire for free from the manufacturer directly since the tire is still essentially new. GL
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Goodyear will replace tire free of charge less installation within first year. After first yer it's prorated. Not sureif getting a nail is considered road hazard. It's in you manual.
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Old 06-15-2013, 05:45 AM
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Replace......them all! RFTs totally suck and you will not be sorry once you notice the difference in ride and handling with a quality non-RFT, such as Michelin PSS.
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Old 06-15-2013, 06:30 AM
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Replace......them all! RFTs totally suck and you will not be sorry once you notice the difference in ride and handling with a quality non-RFT, such as Michelin PSS.
This is very true. It will transform the car.
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Old 06-15-2013, 10:40 AM
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li never attempt to remove screws or nails
the tire can be patched.

contact good year for warranty info.
since its now the weekend you should be able to read the warranty on the web site if you dont have a copy with your owners manual.

my tire shop charges $20. for a patch ,although i have yet to have them patch a runflat.
if good year covers it,you will have to go to a good year tire center
for 20 bucks you might prefer to go to a tire shop of your choice,that might be more conveinant.
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Old 06-15-2013, 05:51 PM
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Thank for all the input guys
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Goodyear will replace tire free of charge less installation within first year. After first yer it's prorated. Not sure if getting a nail is considered road hazard. It's in you manual.
+1, every new car has an OEM warranty on their tires for the 1st year (from the tire manufacture), it's on the CD that came with the car, it includes road hazard, and *should* be replaced for free....

After that 1st year, get all your tires *warrantied* by Americas Tire (or whoever you have out there), for about $250.00 for all 4... Much cheaper than the warranty through BMW (unless of course you go through multiple sets of tires...)
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This is right from the Goodyear site it states that punctures is not covered.


What is not covered by this warranty?

This limited warranty does not cover:

Tires submitted for ride disturbance that are worn beyond the first 2/32 in. (.16 cm) tread depth or tires submitted for ride disturbance due to damaged wheels, or any vehicle condition.
Goodyear does not warrant or give credit in any adjustment transaction for any kind of material added to a tire (e.g., tire fillers, sealants, balancing substances) after the tire leaves a factory producing Goodyear tires, nor will it adjust any tire that has failed as a result of adding such material
Irregular wear or damage due to mechanical condition of the vehicle, improper inflation, overloading, high-speed spin-up, misapplication, misuse, negligence, racing, use of tire chains, improper mounting or demounting, improper repair, wreck, collision, or fire
Road hazards (includes, but not limited to, punctures, cuts, snags, impact breaks, etc.)
Any tire that, after leaving a factory producing Goodyear tires, has been intentionally altered to change its appearance (e.g., white inlay on a black tire, or re-grooved)
Tires removed from service due to improper repairs
Tires with weather-cracking that were purchased more than four (4) years prior to presentation for adjustment or, if purchase date cannot be verified, manufactured more than four years prior to presentation for adjustment
Loss of time, inconvenience, loss of vehicle use, or incidental or consequential damages
Cosmetic weather checking
Low tire pressure-monitoring system refer to vehicle manufacturer's warranty
Temporary spare tires used on vehicles used in racing and on passenger cars in special applications such as police pursuit service.
Goodyear Unisteel Commercial Radial Light Truck tires.
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this is an embarrassing issue, I'm disappointed with Bmw. so much for the m sport package with 19 inch wheel and tires.
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does anyone know if the dealer will install a Michelin or bridge stone when ordering a new car? or do they stick with the good year.
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this is an embarrassing issue, I'm disappointed with Bmw. so much for the m sport package with 19 inch wheel and tires.
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does anyone know if the dealer will install a Michelin or bridge stone when ordering a new car? or do they stick with the good year.
I think you really need to do more homework before claiming the m-sport package is the culprit. Sure 19's don't help, but it is more about the stiffness of the RF's than the "m-sport" package. 19" wheels are the way to go with the F10, 18" wheels look too small. As for getting BMW to put non-OEM tires on it, not gonna happen. The F10 might not be the car for you.
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For a $75000.00 car to not get their S**T straight and Plus charge you a tire/wheel insurance so that I can spend my time at the dealer instead of having a leisurely drive elsewhere is kinda of asinine of BMW.

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I think you really need to do more homework before claiming the m-sport package is the culprit. Sure 19's don't help, but it is more about the stiffness of the RF's than the "m-sport" package. 19" wheels are the way to go with the F10, 18" wheels look too small. As for getting BMW to put non-OEM tires on it, not gonna happen. The F10 might not be the car for you.
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For a $75000.00 car to not get their S**T straight and Plus charge you a tire/wheel insurance so that I can spend my time at the dealer instead of having a leisurely drive elsewhere is kinda of asinine of BMW.
Doesn't sound like BMW in general is the right car for you. I have paid over $100k for a BMW's and found myself at the dealer more than I would have liked. It comes with the territory. I would suggest a Lexus for you. Are you new to BMW?
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Didn't realize a 100k car spends more time at the shop than on the road? seriously is this a joke.

owned 525xi until it hit 140K a reliable beast, except for pcv and washer pump failure. there was no issue.

With this new car my question simply states why doesn't BMW offer a non-rft (michelin) as well as RFT (the crappy goodyear) and let the customer choose. Do I want to drive the car more often or spend time at the dealer. In your case I guess you have enough time to spend at the dealer.



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Didn't realize a 100k car spends more time at the shop than on the road? seriously is this a joke.

owned 525xi until it hit 140K a reliable beast, except for pcv and washer pump failure. there was no issue.

With this new car my question simply states why doesn't BMW offer a non-rft (michelin) as well as RFT (the crappy goodyear) and let the customer choose. Do I want to drive the car more often or spend time at the dealer. In your case I guess you have enough time to spend at the dealer.
Sell the run flats and buy some non run flat michelins and you will be very happy.
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I have two OEM Rear run flats for sale with less than 100 miles on them if anybody is intrested. I decided to go with Michelins all the way around.
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Didn't realize a 100k car spends more time at the shop than on the road? seriously is this a joke.

owned 525xi until it hit 140K a reliable beast, except for pcv and washer pump failure. there was no issue.

With this new car my question simply states why doesn't BMW offer a non-rft (michelin) as well as RFT (the crappy goodyear) and let the customer choose. Do I want to drive the car more often or spend time at the dealer. In your case I guess you have enough time to spend at the dealer.
He didnt say it spent more time at the dealership than on the road. If you put low-profile, 19" or 20" wheels on ANY car and run them on roads with holes in them you won't be satisfied with the outcome. I choose to take the risk and drive one of the nicest looking cars on this planet. BTW, if you are buying new I can hook you guys up with a tire/wheel warranty for under $500 - that works with zero issues. Wont work for tires already on the road...PM me and I can put you in touch with the guy/dealer.
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Is repair or replace the only options? You forgot the most important one...REMOVE.

Going from Runflats to Pilot Sport A/S was like night and day with cornering ability and ride quality. I personally think it is a crime that BMW marginalizes their cars with horrible rough riding runflats, to save a few pounds and the trunk space that a spare would take up.

Ditch those pieces of junk! (and get a AAA membership in case you do get a flat)
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