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E36 (1991 - 1999)
The E36 chassis 3-Series BMW was a huge hit among driving enthusiasts from the first moment the car hit the pavement. The E36 won numerous awards over the years it was produced and is still a favorite of many BMW enthusiasts to this day! -- View the E36 Wiki

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Old 04-15-2013, 01:52 PM
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Jon, you'll have a far easier time of it than Ken will. Coupe's are easy to get the headliner into and out of compared to sedans. The Bimmer gods frown on those who get things into and out of their cars too easily on a regular basis.
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Looks pretty good to me, nice work Ken.
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:24 PM
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Looks fine from here, but it's hard to see any imperfections unless you're up close. Nice work!
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Looks pretty good. I need to man up and do this also. Wooozaaahhh
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Amber just did her headliner today too.
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Not until you finish the moonroof and pillars!
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Old 04-15-2013, 04:40 PM
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So for posterity I'm going to make a quick run down of how I did it for future DIYers.

step one: start by removing the "oh sh!t" handles, sun visors, sun visor clips, map lights, and the A & C pillars.

Step two: remove the gasket from the sunroof panel and the headliner should pretty much drop down at this point, from here you'll want to disconnect any electrical that may be left attached.

step three: removal of the headliner. grab or trick a buddy into coming down to check out what you're doing and then quickly tell them to hold onto the back half of the headliner. slide the front seats all the way back as far as they'll go (this is assuming we're working on a sedan which is the harder of the two)
now what you want to do is rotate the the headliner in such a way that the "front of it is point towards the passenger front door. Have your buddy take the back half and rotate it over the drivers seat and down between it and the B pillar. You're going to have to squish and pull on the headliner at this point, but it shouldn't break or crease, pull on the front through the passenger door diagonally (its the only way it'll fit ) for some extra room you can put the gear selector in 2nd or 4th gear so that the headliner will clear past it.

Step four: congrats if you're working on a sedan, you've just did the toughest part of taking it out. Now pull that nasty old upholstery off of the fiberboard. Once complete take your choice of a scotch brite cleaning pad or some 120 grit sand paper and start removing all of the old foam backing and adhesive, this step will take a wile, so get a drink, and a sandwich and get crackin'

step five: now that you're prepped and ready to go lay out your new material and size it up, make sure you have enough material excess on all 4 sides to pull tight and overlap on the other side. Once you're squared up, starting from the rear of the headliner and working from the middle out to the sides, begin to apply the adhesive and smooth/pull the material onto it and then let it tack up and dry. I found that going in sections was the best method here, i went from the rear to the opening of the sunroof, then from the sunroof to the front control panel, and then finished it off.

step six: now that your headliner is already looking a million times better than it did, lay down a sheet, flip it over and then secure all the excess on all 4 sides with adhesive. Be sure that you don't wrinkle or twist the material on the sides. After you've let it dry, take a razor knife and cut "X"s into all the blanks where the lights, handles, visors, sunroof ect are supposed to go. Then one at time secure the triangles down with adhesive. Once you're done drying you're ready to reinstall.

step seven: putting this beast back in without wrecking all of your hard work. Quite simply you're going to put it in, in reverse. The rear will enter through the pass. front, and then rotating and twisting it until you're back in. Now from here everything is easy, if your buddy isn't pissed at you for conning him into this project hand him a screw driver and get to putting everything back on.

Step eight: admire your work, clean up the huge mess you made in the livingroom/driveway/garage/porch, put your tools away, take some pictures, go inside and relax because you're fricken done.

let the pictures in this thread supplement all 8 steps.
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Not until you finish the moonroof and pillars!
i have to buy all new pillars, the tabs are broken off of all them from the BMW $tealer in Springfield MO, "Reliable BMW" mofckers.


I didn't feel like tackling the sunroof cassete today. or ever.
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Looking really good Kenny! Nice job!
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Looking really good Kenny! Nice job!
thanks you guys. it was surely something I don't want to do more than once. My next e36 will either have a new headliner, or have one that's been reupholstered because im not doing it
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I've done a couple in other cars and sanding the old foam and glue off just totally sucks. Good on you for hanging in there and getting it done!
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fortunately cadence's headliner is in good shape. the sunroof portion?? not so much....

but i am in the process of doing my a pillars and door panel inserts. i posted some 'before' pics of the disassembly. the old material simply pulls off the pillars.

if the tabs break off, though, they can be glues back on. just need to use the proper glue, as well as the proper amount...

i've seen too many people use the hot glue gun for this and it simply will not work. testors model glue will work, as will many 2 part epoxy based glues. the stuff we had at the dealership came in little self contained cups. awesome stuff. haven't been able to locate it on the outside, though....

let's just say there are many, *many* 'fixes' to brand new off the lot warranty repairs with this stuff....


anyway, good job kenny. it's not easy. the contours are always the toughtest part, regardless of the headliner or door inserts....

pics of my stuff will be coming soon. need to go check on how the curing has taken....



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You know, instead of recovering it... why not just paint it?
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painting doesn't make it stop sagging and blowing foam everywhere
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Why not just paint the fiberglass backing instead of using fabric material, genius. AFTER you clean everything off.
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Why not just paint the fiberglass backing instead of using fabric material, genius. AFTER you clean everything off.
meh, because it's fiberglass and fiberglass is sh!tty. one could argue why even put the liner back in at all if that's the case.
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meh, because it's fiberglass and fiberglass is sh!tty. one could argue why even put the liner back in at all if that's the case.
Because racecar.

Nah, I think because some people don't like seeing the wiring and the sunroof cassette. I am just restoring my cars back to their showroom condition, minus the rail dust and doodoo that came with them when they arrived from where ever they ported from.

I am just a bit anxious on pulling out the M3's headliner because I still can't figure out how I am going to pull it out of the car without FUBAR'ing it. I wish someone would make a youtube video of it, let alone how to remove the metal panel from the E36 sunroof so I can yank out the bottom plate so I can re-upholster that thing too. I'm thinking Alcantara roof and pillars, sunroof panel, and alcantara armrest. Then alcantara steering wheel wrap with M color stitching, then buy the shift boot and ebrake boot with the m-stitching from eBay. Then paint the yellow centering mark on the steering wheel because racecar.
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