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E63 / E64 6 Series (2003 - 2013)
The E63/E64 BMW 6 Series builds on BMW's sporty heritage with aggressive lines and an incredible motor to back the design up. Available in coupe and convertible trims with a standard 4.8 liter engine producing 360 horsepower and 360 lb-ft of torque, the 6-series is a popular choice that exceeds expectations.

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Old 06-26-2013, 08:38 AM
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Engine Jerks and Transmission Fault latches

Hello All...I have seen the many threads on this topic, with very good suggestions on what the root cause might be...Typically, Battery and then Alternator are considered to be the prime items to check for this issue...

I went to my Indie and they were able to identify all the codes, of which there were more than 25 ranging from minor codes such as HUD, Telephone, to the DSC, DME/DDE and CAS...The DME/DDE had all the favorites though, fuel injector 1, 2, 3, and 4...Map thermostat, Vanos inlet/exhaust, cranshaft sensor, Air mass sensor and power manement vehicle electrical system...I also have more frequently been a victim of the engine stalling and then not being able to restart when pushing the start button...Can take up to 30 secs before it wants to engage the starter...frequency of above occurences are increasing from months down to weeks and now days.

The Indie recommended going to the Dealership as they would have better tools to do deep dive diagnose for the actual problem...Urrgh...so I decided to go online and use, "JustAnswers"...The on-line BMW specialist went through a series of questions to better understand the conditions and all the actual codes recorded...This went on for around 2 hours...His diagnosis is that the IVM...Integrated Voltage Supply Module is the root cause to all these conditions...http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...=12&fg=35&hl=1

So, based on his feedback and reviewing the strings on this forum, I think the $120 gamble on the IVM is worth it...

Is there anything else to be considered?

Battery test shows measure volts 12.28V, 1031 CCA, battery rating is 720 CCA
Start test...volts dropped to 10.99V...
Charging test 14.2V

I get the IVM this Friday...hoping this will be the cheap fix
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Old 06-26-2013, 05:01 PM
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Your alternator readings looks to be ok, but was the battery load tested? Do you know what kind test equipment your Indy used? With that many codes, it does look like it is an electrical problem. I am not sure if the IVM would cause that many codes? I think that when they have problems, that it is starting related? Have you had the recall done for the battery IBS, that could cause similar problems? I think that the IVM might have to be coded, when you install it in the car. This will most likely cost you another 100.00 or so.

Good Luck!
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Old 06-27-2013, 04:11 AM
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Hello HerbP...I am not sure of the equipment used to do the battery load test, I just assumed that these folks dealing with nothing but BMW's would have appropriate equipment...The battery is relatively New...Bought last December...It's an Interstate Mega Tron 49 H8...720CCA and $175 price Tag...
What is the battery IBS recall?
The good news about the IVM is that it is a plug and play module, so just need to remove the Micro Filter Box on the passenger side and I will have direct access...
Thanks for the comment...
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Old 06-27-2013, 06:54 AM
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Just checked on the recall for the IBC...Positive Battery Cable and the Insulated Bulkhead Connector and can confirm it was performed during the warranty period
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Old 06-28-2013, 11:24 AM
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The New IVM is now installed...It's the unknown waiting game now...I think once it gets past 1 month I can declare, FIXED" :-)
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Old 06-28-2013, 05:31 PM
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The New IVM is now installed...It's the unknown waiting game now...I think once it gets past 1 month I can declare, FIXED" :-)
Did you have to code the module?
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Old 06-28-2013, 06:31 PM
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I had a similar problem with a 650i I was working on, every code set had a common denominator to those componants that the codes were for, they were supplied power from one relay in the integrated voltage module or fusebox, as well once the tranny loses a crank signal, it goes into limp mode, and will not come out untill code is cleared.
A new fuse box (ivm) fixed it, from Auto Camping, cheaper than the dealer, and comes with fuses. No coding neccesary.
Justin
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Old 07-01-2013, 04:23 AM
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I concur with Justin...Simple 30 min replace and install module...I have driven ~380 miles since installation and performed about 25 start/stops...So far things are looking up...
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Old 07-05-2013, 10:25 AM
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Similar problem happened with my 650i - I did a tranny reset for the first time in at least a year on Monday morning, then started her up and within 5 miles she threw scary warning codes (DBC error, drive moderately, etc.), the tranny went into limp mode and the engine started vibrating hard like it wanted to stall. I pulled over, shut her off for a few minutes, started her up and she ran normally as I proceeded straight to the dealer (CPO and extended service plan). Global managed to find me a loaner car with no notice, even if it was a stripped but new 3 series.

SA called today and said they had diagnosed it as a failed IVSM - they are installing a new one this afternoon and said they would need to code it as well (to answer Herb's question above). Hope to get my baby back today but it might be Monday.
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Old 07-05-2013, 04:00 PM
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Won't get her back until Monday and I'm a little bummed ... 7 days seems like a long time to change out the IVSM, even though it included a holiday.


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Old 07-07-2013, 06:23 PM
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I agree that 7 days is a long time...Took a couple of days for the ordered IVM to show up and less than 30 mins to install...Mine has been working well since the install...
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Old 07-08-2013, 04:39 AM
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Good to hear - I should get my car back today.


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