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X3 F25 (2011 - current)
The latest X3 brings some added style and some new features to the BMW SUV family. Talk about the new F25 now!

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Old 07-11-2013, 11:23 AM
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The 2011 have major engine problems.
Just because Consumer Reports says it doesn't make it so.


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Is the transmission of the 2012 the same as the 2013 and 14?
All US X3s have a ZF 8-speed Automatic Transmission, model GA8HP45Z.
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:12 PM
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The ZF8HP was manufactured in 2009 by ZF Friedrichshafen (not BMW). In 2010 BMW used it on the 7 series and then later, on other vehicles (do not know which and what year). So we can not say that all US X3 have this transmission.

I have been a member of consumer reports for the past 30 years. They have ill's but most of the time are dead right on reliability issues. Can you name another entity that is more trust worthy? Please enlighten us.

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Old 07-11-2013, 12:58 PM
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It would have been more precise if I had written that all US F25 X3s have the GA8HP45Z Transmission, but I didn't think that it was necessary to do so in the F25 forum.

I have great respect for Consumer Reports, I too subscribe to CR, and I refer to their website every month or so. However, I don't believe that they got it right on the 2011 F25 engine.

If there were major engine problems with the 2011 X3 then I would expect to have read about it here or on one of the other BMW forums, not just in Consumer Reports. There is information written here by a number of owners who have or have had steering rack issues, window regulator problems, bad JBE modules, perhaps even one with a bad mechatronic unit, as well as a number of other issues. There is nothing written here that suggests major engine problems.
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:19 PM
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Thank you.
It may be one of their ill's.
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Old 07-11-2013, 05:36 PM
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I believe the customer base (survey) is so much bigger than the participants of this forum. But it's all about statistic, chances of making a mistake at CR is slim but still exist.
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:17 PM
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I have a question for the experts:

Does the 2014 X3 28i with M-sport package come with Sport transmission or Steptronic transmission?
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:31 PM
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You get a sport transmission
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Old 07-12-2013, 01:00 AM
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I spoke with two local dealers about the transmission type. One said Sport and the other said Steptronic.

The Sport transmission has a different shift lever than the Steptronic. I built two x3's side by side equipped with M-sport package, one 35i and the other 28i. I zoomed into the interior picture and found the transmission shift levers are different. I then noticed that the last entry in the M-sport spec for the two engines is different.

The 28i reads: M Sports leather steering wheel with paddle shifters
The 35i reads: Sport automatic transmission with shift paddles

The X3 brochure mentions the 35i only as having the sport transmission with M-sport.

Who knows?

What is the difference between Sport and Steptronic?
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Old 07-12-2013, 04:43 AM
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Checked my brochure... (in the Netherlands). Here the 2.8i and the 35i have the same transmission without the M sport... but indeed the 35i have other software when ordering the M Sport (also the 35d)

(without the M Sport)


(mentioned here for the 35 types....| 2VL & 2TB)
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Old 08-29-2013, 12:02 PM
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Long story short, my new X3 that was ordered on July 6 was cancelled and a new order was put in place on August 19th . A production number was issued on the 22nd and the car entered production on the 27th. No Vin number has been assigned yet according to the website. I have two questions:
1. Will BMW post the VIN number in the website under Track MY BMW? Or should I contact the dealer to obtain the VIN number?
2. The car specification on the website under track my BMW shows the M-sport package having: Dynamic Damper Control and standard suspension. Will the car be configured with dynamic damper control? Or is it a typo?

Thank you all for your help.
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Old 08-29-2013, 03:06 PM
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Just ordered a new 2014 X3 28i, MSRP is 52850 and got a 7% discount.
It has the following options:
Alpine White on Black leather with Fineline wave wood.
Driver Assistance Package
Lighting Package
M Sport Package
Premium Package
Technology Package
Automatic high beams
Premium hi-fi system
Roof rails and exterior trim in Satin Aluminum.

Is this a good deal?

I will be picking up the vehicle at the BMW plant in SC. I was told today that the lead time is over 2 months due to the new X5 production. I am not sure if this is true or not. Please advice.

What brand of tires would I expect on this vehicle?


Thanks a bunch
My dealer told me it's going to take 4 weeks, but after spending almost 4 weeks on this blog, I think it's going to be between 7 to 8 weeks.

Tires:

http://www.shopbmwusa.com/ACCESSORIES/TIRES/RUN-FLAT
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Old 08-31-2013, 07:19 AM
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We have the 2014 X3 and it is awesome. I kind of wish that we would have gotten the larger engine. All in all it is awesome.
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Old 08-31-2013, 10:34 AM
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Long story short, my new X3 that was ordered on July 6 was cancelled and a new order was put in place on August 19th . A production number was issued on the 22nd and the car entered production on the 27th. No Vin number has been assigned yet according to the website. I have two questions:
1. Will BMW post the VIN number in the website under Track MY BMW? Or should I contact the dealer to obtain the VIN number?
2. The car specification on the website under track my BMW shows the M-sport package having: Dynamic Damper Control and standard suspension. Will the car be configured with dynamic damper control? Or is it a typo?

Thank you all for your help.
I picked up my X3 from the dealer about 3 weeks ago and the VIN number never showed up on the website, only the production number.
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Old 09-10-2013, 04:47 PM
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Long story short, my new X3 that was ordered on July 6 was cancelled and a new order was put in place on August 19th . A production number was issued on the 22nd and the car entered production on the 27th. No Vin number has been assigned yet according to the website. I have two questions:
1. Will BMW post the VIN number in the website under Track MY BMW? Or should I contact the dealer to obtain the VIN number?
2. The car specification on the website under track my BMW shows the M-sport package having: Dynamic Damper Control and standard suspension. Will the car be configured with dynamic damper control? Or is it a typo?

Thank you all for your help.
ealeisa,

Did you have to contact the dealer to obtain the VIN number?
Did you get your car on time and was everything as ordered? My dealer had to place a new order as the previous one went into production already. It should arrive in about 4 to 5 weeks. Regards.
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'04 540 i - Sold @ 175,000 miles
'01 330 xi - Sold @ 72,000 miles
'96 318 Ti - Sold @ 157,000 miles
'95 318 Ti - Retired @ 265,000 miles
'84 633 CSi - Sold @ 250,000 kilometers
'74 3.0 CSL - Sold @ 225,000 kilometers
'70 2002 Tii - Sold @ 175,000 kilometers
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Old 09-10-2013, 05:14 PM
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The dealer obtained the VIN in a flash. It is still not reported in the web site under MYBMW. Production finished and I will be going to SC in 2 weeks for PCD. However, the X3 will be shipped back to the dealer at their expense.

My original plan was to drive the X3 back to Texas with my teenage son, but since school has started during the second X3 order, the dealer offered to ship it back so not miss many school days.
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Old 09-10-2013, 06:21 PM
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Goodyear run flats. You might want to reconsider a 3.5. I'm glad we got the 3.5, my wife loves it.
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Old 09-10-2013, 07:05 PM
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The N55 engine does not seem reliable. A number of failures have been reported in the 535 and 335 series. All of the reported failures were related to HPFP, which is the same issue that plagued its predecessor, the notorious N54 engine.
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Old 09-10-2013, 07:36 PM
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I just placed my order for 35i. I asked for production number, but I was told by the sales man that I can't tract the production progress anymore.
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Old 09-10-2013, 07:55 PM
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2011 has major engine problems? Please describe.
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Old 09-11-2013, 09:07 AM
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2011 has major engine problems? Please describe.
I wouldn't jump into conclusions based on few opinions. Also, I'm not going to defend the X3 35i engine because I have just purchased one. It's because I have never experienced engine problems in any of BMWs I have owned. Perhaps I was very lucky. My 1995 318Ti engine M42B18, produced just for one year supposed to have many problems, but not for me. I was able to to make 265,000 miles on it - this car still sits in my garage. At the same time I drove a 1996 318Ti with upgraded engine M44B19, and it wasn't as good as the previous one. My best BMW was a 1994 540i - I had no problems with it at all and made 175,000 on it. Some Bimmerfest members here didn't like this particular car. And now, before buying an X3 35i, I was considering a 28 version and had a chance to test drive it at least 3 times. It's a great engine, powerful enough for 2-3 adults on a flat terrain, but for someone like me, living in San Francisco with a lot of steep hills and driving sometimes with 3-4 adults will make this engine scream for help. But the main thing that stopped me from buying the 28 was the brand new design of this engine, so it's very hard to say if it's good or not. The BMW engineers said they really pushed the design, and it clearly shows - 240 hp out of 2.0 L engine?! That's a lot of stress for the engine. It runs great, I would only need to see for how long. For the time being I went with the 35 engine (Personal preference, and advanced knowledge of physics).
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'04 540 i - Sold @ 175,000 miles
'01 330 xi - Sold @ 72,000 miles
'96 318 Ti - Sold @ 157,000 miles
'95 318 Ti - Retired @ 265,000 miles
'84 633 CSi - Sold @ 250,000 kilometers
'74 3.0 CSL - Sold @ 225,000 kilometers
'70 2002 Tii - Sold @ 175,000 kilometers

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Old 09-11-2013, 04:43 PM
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I hardly disagree.

Here is my two cents:

I estimated the horse power needed for a fully loaded 2.0L X3 to climb the steepest grade in San Francisco at a speed of 35 M/H or (15.5 meter/s).

A fully loaded X3 means the weight of the vehicle + payload + towing capacity= 4068+904+3500=8472 lb or 3850 Kg

The steepest grade in San Francisco (Filbert street) is 31.5% or an inclination angle of 17.5 degrees.

I used the following formula to compute the horse power

P=M*G*Sin(X) * V/ 746
= 3850 * 9.8 * .30 * 15.5 / 746 == 235 HP

It seems that BMW are right on the spot. The vehicle should climb without gagging.

Now without towing, the maximum power needed is: 2260*9.8*.30*15.5/746 == 138 HP. The X3 produces 240 HP and is more than adequate.
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I hardly disagree.

Here is my two cents:

I estimated the horse power needed for a fully loaded 2.0L X3 to climb the steepest grade in San Francisco at a speed of 35 M/H or (15.5 meter/s).

A fully loaded X3 means the weight of the vehicle + payload + towing capacity= 4068+904+3500=8472 lb or 3850 Kg

The steepest grade in San Francisco (Filbert street) is 31.5% or an inclination angle of 17.5 degrees.

I used the following formula to compute the horse power

P=M*G*Sin(X) * V/ 746
= 3850 * 9.8 * .30 * 15.5 / 746 == 235 HP

It seems that BMW are right on the spot. The vehicle should climb without gagging.

Now without towing, the maximum power needed is: 2260*9.8*.30*15.5/746 == 138 HP. The X3 produces 240 HP and is more than adequate.
How differently everything looks in reality. For years I've been driving several of my BMW SEDANS (meaning MUCH SMALLER BODY than X3) with the 2.0 engines up and down of many hills of San Francisco and the Bay Area. With 2 adults inside the ride up the hill was far from impressive - it was OK. With 4 or 5 adults it was awful. I was talking about sedans, NOW, as I said in my previous note, I had a chance to test drive the 28 X3 - a much bigger and heavier body than the sedan, and with 5 people inside (one of them being a salesman) - it wasn't easy and it was LOUD. So after comparing it to the ride on 35, all 5 of us have spoken and I went with the 35 engine. Pragmatic, logical decision, based on experience - the test drives and my personal, 20 year driving experience around the Bay Area - and not on estimates created on papers. Nothing wrong about it. Plus, like i said, I have never experience a single problem with any of my BMW engines I just must be the lucky one.
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'04 540 i - Sold @ 175,000 miles
'01 330 xi - Sold @ 72,000 miles
'96 318 Ti - Sold @ 157,000 miles
'95 318 Ti - Retired @ 265,000 miles
'84 633 CSi - Sold @ 250,000 kilometers
'74 3.0 CSL - Sold @ 225,000 kilometers
'70 2002 Tii - Sold @ 175,000 kilometers

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