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X5 E70 (2007 - 2013)
E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 07-10-2013, 08:23 AM
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Interesting, thanks for the info. I wish they would have offered the AS on the diesel. Maybe in the new F15....
Yeah I would have ordered active steering if available on the diesel. Adaptive drive was all I could get, but I'm glad I got it
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:24 AM
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Old 07-10-2013, 09:54 AM
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OP - The X5 steering wheel is heavy and that's how it is.

No need to check tire pressure etc, it is what it is. The tire pressure won't make it better. I love the heavy steering wheel and my wife doesn't.

Your only option is to take the financial hit and trade in. Tennis elbow can get worse if not taken care of. If you have another car, drive that till you get a good deal on the trade in.

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Old 07-10-2013, 11:38 AM
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OP - The X5 steering wheel is heavy and that's how it it.

No need to check tire pressure etc, it is what it it. The tire pressure won't make it better. I love the heavy steering wheel and my wife doesn't.

Your only option is to take the financial hit and trade in. Tennis elbow can get worse if not taken care of. If you have another car, drive that till you get a good deal on the trade in.
if it is leased, I would put it on swap a lease/leasetrader/craigslist immediately.
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Old 07-12-2013, 01:35 PM
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I'm glad the OP started this thread. I thought it was just me. I test drove a 2013 X5 3 times and finally decided that the steering was not for me. I felt it was heavy the first time i did a test drive. I didn't notice it when I drove it at the UDE. Test drove a different one today at a different dealer and felt it again. I test drove a 5 series right afterwards and I'm considering that instead. Hope it all works out for you, OP.
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Old 07-12-2013, 02:55 PM
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am i the only one who loves the steering? if i wanted light steering i would have bought a honda!!

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Old 07-12-2013, 03:08 PM
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Old 07-13-2013, 07:44 AM
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The cars you are driving that have lighter steering most likely have Adaptive Drive and Active Steering. Check for a "Sport" button next to the transmission gear selector. That shows you that specific car has AD. If it is a pre-2013, I believe they all came standard with Active Steering when you got that very expensive but amazing option.

I used to have an F10 and the main reason why I dropped it and bought the last two REAL BMWs, the X1 and E70 X5, is the hydraulic steering. This is what BMW is known for and what it does best. You go drive the F10, an F25 or an F30 and you'll see. It is light. But what the hell is the point of that? Buy a Mercedes, or an Audi, or a rice burner for that. BMWs are drivers cars. When (not if) the F15 comes out, it will also have the Electric steering and it will be crap. It's a shame.


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Old 07-13-2013, 07:46 AM
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Also, I forgot to say this, but don't just "bump tire pressure up to 40" like some people have said here. Look at whatever your recommended tire pressure is on your driver's side column, then go over that by 3 or 4 psi. Every X5 is different (different engines have different tire specs, if you have the third row it is different, adaptive drive is different, etc).


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Old 07-13-2013, 11:06 AM
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In addition to getting the stiff steering checked out, the OP should consider seeing a good physical therapist to address the tennis elbow issues. I've suffered with elbow tendinitis aggravated mostly by using a keyboard all day. Some simple exercises recommended by my PT have helped. If the steering is the root problem, changing the seating/steering wheel position may help, too. Shorter drivers often have to compromise on the optimal upper body/arm placement so they can still reach the pedals. Try changing the steering wheel and seat back positions. Good luck!
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Old 07-14-2013, 09:32 AM
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You guys are crazy if you think the steering is heavy. That's the reason why I love BMW and because of the electric/EPS system they have coming in, this will be my last BMW. I loved the extra heavy steering on my father's E39 5 Series, loved the heavy steering on my old E92 335i, and love the steering on my current X5. I drove my father's car again the other day to get an oil change, and man was that steering heavier but way more accurate. These are the things that make a BMW a BMW and it's sad because people complain about how it should be like every car manufacturer's steering feel. You don't find the heavy weight secure at high speeds?
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Old 07-14-2013, 03:42 PM
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Loved the servotronic in my old M5 and liking it in the 4.8i (and 4.8is). Variable racks do take some adjusting to, but never have noticed a reduction in road "feel." I find the racks in non-AS cars slow for sure. OP's complaint is not rare I'm sure. You guys are lucky servo is not standard. Yet.


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Old 07-14-2013, 04:38 PM
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I'd say the OP has a legitimate concern if her 2013 X5 has significantly heavier steering and a 2013 X5M. There actually might be something wrong with her steering like a bad pump or low fluid. I'd suggest taking a test drive with some other 2013 X5's at the dealership and see how their steering compares to hers. If there's a significant difference with other non-M X5 models, then she can insist on her service advisor going for a test drive in her X5 to see for himself.
We have a '13 X5 3.5 premium (no active steering) and a '13 X5M. The 3.5 definitely has heavier steering effort than the M; especially at low speeds and maneuvering in tight spots.

OP - did you test drive your X5 before purchasing it?
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Old 07-16-2013, 07:50 AM
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The cars you are driving that have lighter steering most likely have Adaptive Drive and Active Steering. Check for a "Sport" button next to the transmission gear selector. That shows you that specific car has AD. If it is a pre-2013, I believe they all came standard with Active Steering when you got that very expensive but amazing option.
Active Steering was not bundled with Adaptive Drive--at least not in the 2009 I have. Adaptive Drive was part of the Sport Package. And Active Steering was a standalone option. I have AD, but not AS.
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:48 AM
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you guys are crazy if you think the steering is heavy. That's the reason why i love bmw and because of the electric/eps system they have coming in, this will be my last bmw. I loved the extra heavy steering on my father's e39 5 series, loved the heavy steering on my old e92 335i, and love the steering on my current x5. I drove my father's car again the other day to get an oil change, and man was that steering heavier but way more accurate. These are the things that make a bmw a bmw and it's sad because people complain about how it should be like every car manufacturer's steering feel. You don't find the heavy weight secure at high speeds?
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:01 AM
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For the 'crap' handling and the following every road dip, checking the alignment might help. I had the same issue ( my wife would not even drive our 2011 diesel) and I had the front toe in reduced... Issue fixed


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Old 07-16-2013, 08:29 PM
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Hi all..!!
I took the car in for a service last week and asked them about my heavy steering which turns out to be hydraulic, not active. Wish I knew about Active Steering at the time of the order. Like one member posted, it can't be added after market so I'm stuck with it. I'll try and pump up my wheels more than the norm. My arm pain is genuine and I think it's due to the start stop short distance driving I do - I'm a taxi for my kids. So for any woman considering an X5 PLEASE get the active steering - it will be worth every cent. :-)
Thanks to everyone who posted lots of suggestions, it was all helpful information (and thanks to the moderator for deleting the comments for those who weren't so helpful...lol).
Thanks again.
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Old 07-17-2013, 09:30 PM
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I suggest you keep the X5 and maybe take up badminton.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:44 AM
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dkreidel, my car was ordered from scratch as I needed 3 rows of seats, however thinking back when I test drove the display car, I only took it onto the highway at higher speeds and never drove around parking lots.

I love my car at high speeds and it's a beast to drive. It certainly feels like it hugs the road better than the Mercedes I test drove back then. I felt the ML steering was too light and I could easily over correct but Hydraulic is too heavy for my needs. I don't mean to offend those who love the hydraulic steering however if you do a lot of parking and short trips as I do then you don't get the benefit of that type of steering (especially if you have 20 inch wheels!!). I recommend to all women considering an X5, to test drive both types of steering.
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what components are in active steering? Can you retrofit it one from a donor car from a junkyard?
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Old 01-11-2014, 12:57 PM
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Can you retrofit it one from a donor car from a junkyard?
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here is all the parts to do it. hard to find X5's with it. Need different steering pump, harness, rack and pinion, CPU plus install. Prob a 6k ordeal unless you can find one with it in a yard.

32416796457
Power steering pump
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Wiring harness for module . ASF/ ASA
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32106799622
hydro steering gear,active steering, Remanufactured
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Subtotal: $ 4674.96
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