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Old 07-12-2013, 08:55 PM
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Yeah that could do if a fullsize tire fits in there. But here it is for your reference. http://www.bimmerzone.com/BMW_Perfor...T-F10-KIT.html
Excellent, thank you

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Old 07-12-2013, 09:30 PM
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**Consolidated RFT Failures/Issues Thread**

Also can't we 19" guys get tires with bigger sidewalls? I mean there is a 20" option. The bigger circumference can't throw the car that out of
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Old 07-12-2013, 10:20 PM
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No need to run away from 19" wheels. Just buy tires with a larger sidewall. Stock size is 245/40/19. I ditched my run flats and put on Michelin pilot AS plus sized 245/45/19 - NO BUBBLES in one year of ownership and I've hit many monster sized NYC potholes. The extra sidewall diameter is no problem; it doesn't even rub on my lowered car with Dinan springs.
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Old 07-12-2013, 11:04 PM
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No need to run away from 19" wheels. Just buy tires with a larger sidewall. Stock size is 245/40/19. I ditched my run flats and put on Michelin pilot AS plus sized 245/45/19 - NO BUBBLES in one year of ownership and I've hit many monster sized NYC potholes. The extra sidewall diameter is no problem; it doesn't even rub on my lowered car with Dinan springs.
18" wheels have the same 245/45 section height. No owner with 18" wheels seems to report any problems. It is amazing the difference 1/2" makes, about a 13% increase.
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Old 07-13-2013, 04:50 AM
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**Consolidated RFT Failures/Issues Thread**

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No need to run away from 19" wheels. Just buy tires with a larger sidewall. Stock size is 245/40/19. I ditched my run flats and put on Michelin pilot AS plus sized 245/45/19 - NO BUBBLES in one year of ownership and I've hit many monster sized NYC potholes. The extra sidewall diameter is no problem; it doesn't even rub on my lowered car with Dinan springs.
Yeah that's what I'm getting at. The only problem is the speedometer will be wrong by a certain %. However I can deal with that.


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Old 07-13-2013, 05:01 AM
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This "certain amount" is precisely 3.6%. No big deal for the speedo reading as it will probably become more accurate (by simply being offset from factory "overstatements"), but you will loose some wheel force, too (given the same wheel torque on a bigger radius). Again - no big deal with 550i, but with 528i I prefer my 18" wheels (even if they look less 'sporty').
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Old 07-28-2013, 05:12 PM
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Michelin RFT Not THAT bad at all.

While I agree that non RFT are better for handling, noise, and even comfort, until I move on a set of aftermarket rims and upgraded performance tires, I think the factory RFT, particularly the MICHELIN PRIMACY ZP tire are more than adequate for the F10.
I have 7K on my M-Sport while my daughter has 37K+ hers and still going strong.
Photo below shows my tire (silver car, left) next to hers. Yes, the sipping is somewhat worn on her 535i but even a trip to the dealer said that we're OK for several thousand more.
Now the best part: No sidewall bubbles or bent rims (M Sport style 351 on both cars). Staggered 19" tires, 275X35X19 rears. No noticeable cupping on rear tires.

Is it just me or is the Michelin Primacy really that good?

Disclaimer: We drive mostly stop and go traffic in So Cal and Nevada with occasional flat out interstate cruising. No autocross or canyon runs. Not many really bad potholes.

Hmm...Maybe it'll be a while before I upgrade?
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:52 AM
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While I agree that non RFT are better for handling, noise, and even comfort, until I move on a set of aftermarket rims and upgraded performance tires, I think the factory RFT, particularly the MICHELIN PRIMACY ZP tire are more than adequate for the F10.
I have 7K on my M-Sport while my daughter has 37K+ hers and still going strong.
Photo below shows my tire (silver car, left) next to hers. Yes, the sipping is somewhat worn on her 535i but even a trip to the dealer said that we're OK for several thousand more.
Now the best part: No sidewall bubbles or bent rims (M Sport style 351 on both cars). Staggered 19" tires, 275X35X19 rears. No noticeable cupping on rear tires.

Is it just me or is the Michelin Primacy really that good?

Disclaimer: We drive mostly stop and go traffic in So Cal and Nevada with occasional flat out interstate cruising. No autocross or canyon runs. Not many really bad potholes.

Hmm...Maybe it'll be a while before I upgrade?
I've had the Michelin Primacy's on other cars and always thought they were a very good tire even more so when compared to the Goodyear Eagle LS-2's (245/40/19) which are not.

I just replaced my 6th LS-2 this past weekend in 2 1/2 years. Granted, the roads in the Washington, DC area are pitiful but still, there's no way I should be going through that many tires. I really feel badly for a guy in NJ who reviewed the Goodyear on Tire Rack; 21 tires in a year and half!!!!
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Old 07-29-2013, 10:28 AM
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I've had the Michelin Primacy's on other cars and always thought they were a very good tire even more so when compared to the Goodyear Eagle LS-2's (245/40/19) which are not.

I just replaced my 6th LS-2 this past weekend in 2 1/2 years. Granted, the roads in the Washington, DC area are pitiful but still, there's no way I should be going through that many tires. I really feel badly for a guy in NJ who reviewed the Goodyear on Tire Rack; 21 tires in a year and half!!!!
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Old 07-29-2013, 10:55 AM
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I was at the dealer this past week and we talked about the RFT's, he agreed they sucked but added their main concern was "safety", I looked at him and said Get the F--- outa here..........he laughed. the RFT's give them the ability to claim eco BS and reduction in weight. The tires are beautiful and are like riding on glass until you run over a pebble then it throws the car sideways and sounds like a bomb went off under the car. I just dont understand how you have a premiere piece of machinery and slap clogs on it. Like I said GTFOH.

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Old 08-05-2013, 08:50 AM
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A new RFT by Dunlop is available that is also all season in the 245/40/19 size. Unfortunately, it is very poorly rated in the non RFT version on tire rack.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....5000M+DSST+CTT

It would be great if the new Michelin AS3 was available in ZP like the older AS plus
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Old 08-05-2013, 08:50 AM
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A new RFT by Dunlop is available that is also all season in the 245/40/19 size. Unfortunately, it is very poorly rated in the non RFT version on tire rack.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....5000M+DSST+CTT

It would be great if the new Michelin AS3 was available in ZP like the older AS plus
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Old 08-05-2013, 09:20 AM
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Goodyear owns Dunlap. This is just a re-badged LS2.


[QUOTE=kssod;7753659]A new RFT by Dunlop is available that is also all season in the 245/40/19 size. Unfortunately, it is very poorly rated in the non RFT version on tire rack.
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Old 08-05-2013, 09:33 AM
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A new RFT by Dunlop is available that is also all season in the 245/40/19 size. Unfortunately, it is very poorly rated in the non RFT version on tire rack.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....5000M+DSST+CTT

It would be great if the new Michelin AS3 was available in ZP like the older AS plus
Reviews date back to 2009...not that new. Bridgestone does have an RE97 on the non-Sport Q50...that appears new...but sizes are unknown. Michelin has a Pilot Super Sport ZP for the new Corvette, but other sizes are unknown. The Corvette size is an inch smaller in diameter than F10 tires; it is the right size for the E-class with 18" or 19" wheels.
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Old 08-05-2013, 12:29 PM
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With the 2014 model year, 535i and 550i, Luxury Line, Modern Line and M Sport lines all come with 19" wheels in the USA. Given that BMW is pushing "lines" I suspect that the majority of vehicles (other than 528i) are going to come with 19" wheel/tire.

Does this imply that BMW have confidence in the 19" tires being delivered with the 2014 or are we going to see an increase in unhappy customers.

I'm in a 2011 535i xDrive with 19" wheels and about to order a 2014. I've replaced at least four LS2's on my 2011 and will probably be forced to replace at least 2 more on lease turn in, so keenly interested in whether things are getting any better.

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Old 08-05-2013, 08:01 PM
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My dealer just said that Bridgestone Turenza 245/40/19 are available in runflat all weather. Interesting that the Bridgestone site does not list this. So, did BMW get Bridgestone to do a runflat version?
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Old 08-08-2013, 04:25 AM
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No need to run away from 19" wheels. Just buy tires with a larger sidewall. Stock size is 245/40/19. I ditched my run flats and put on Michelin pilot AS plus sized 245/45/19 - NO BUBBLES in one year of ownership and I've hit many monster sized NYC potholes. The extra sidewall diameter is no problem; it doesn't even rub on my lowered car with Dinan springs.
Are you carrying a tire repair kit then since you have AS tires? Did you consider Primacy HP ZP 245/45/19 RFT?
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Old 08-08-2013, 05:01 AM
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Almost ready to order my first BMW. 550xDrive M-Sport, after much deliberation about the options, likely going fully loaded.

Then I see this thread and wanted to puke. Was also consider S6 (255/40/19 summer tires are stock), because I live in NJ and prefer winter tires, even w AWD.

Someone please talk me out of this. My only approach to BMW seems to be:

1. Negotiate the tire insurance up front (although the inconvenience of the tire issues is worse then the cost issues)

2. Go with either Primacy or PZero 245/40/19 (I cannot go without RFT if I have no spare... just not comfortable w that). These are only summer, so...

3. Add Winter Tires. Either Pirelli Winter Sottozero Run Flat, or a non RFT and throw one of my summers in the trunk as a spare (I only carry golf clubs in the trunk... and in winter in NJ that wouldn't be the case).

Feedback on this? Am I missing something?
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Old 08-08-2013, 05:38 AM
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KENSKI - I don't think there are any RFT winter tires available in the 245/40/19 size. As far as all-season RFT tires go, you also can change to tires with a higher profile. Either 245/45/18 (requires new wheels, but are a standard F10 size) or 245/45/19 (affects speedometer and odometer readings) .
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Old 08-08-2013, 05:57 AM
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KENSKI - I don't think there are any RFT winter tires available in the 245/40/19 size. As far as all-season RFT tires go, you also can change to tires with a higher profile. Either 245/45/18 (requires new wheels, but are a standard F10 size) or 245/45/19 (affects speedometer and odometer readings) .
Thanks Radarguy. Are there 245/45/19 RFT you'd rtecommend? I know I can get non-RFT (summer or A/S), but I don't want to go this route without a spare.

FYI, according to Tire Rack, there are indeed Winter RFTs. (I entered the car specs and they came up in the list). They are Winter Sottozero Run Flat. 245/40/19. I don't know if this is new, or what.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....Clar=M%20Sport
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:29 PM
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I can't recommend any tires in the 245/45/19 size since I went the route of getting 245/45/18 tires and new 18" wheels. If you search through this thread you will find people that switched to 245/45/19's.
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Old 08-08-2013, 05:45 PM
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I plan on buying these Bridgestone 45 series 19" A/S Run Flats when my 2014 550 ix comes in and not buying the tire insurance from BMW. I figure since the the bubble problem is mostly limited to 40 series tires I'll be fairly safe with these 45 series Run Flats. I don't want to change tires every winter to dedicated snows and really don't want to go the non run flat route so I think this will work for me. I've gone through 7, 40 series 19" tires (no wheel damage) on my present 550 and I'm not going through that again but i like the look of 19" wheels so for me a 45 series 19" A/S Run Flat will hopefully work and cost less than the tire insurance even if i have to replace a few tires. I believe that someone on this board figured out that the speedometer difference because of the larger tire size might actually make it more accurate but worst case the small difference will be quite acceptable.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....PRFT&tab=Sizes
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Old 08-10-2013, 06:38 PM
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Our 2011 535i w/ sport package had Goodyear Excellence tires (275/35-19 & 245/40-19). Five sidewall bubbles later I talked the dealer into switching to something else. Since the free swap involved consideration from Goodyear, the only choice he gave me was Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT DSST tires in the same sizes as above. I was not happy, since Goodyear owns Dunlop and TireRack.com had bad reviews of these tires. But ... it has turned out better than expected. A year later and we have had no more sidewall bubbles. And the tires are relatively quiet and smooth. Fingers crossed. I am hoping that by time they wear out there will be some RTF all seasons tires available in the needed sizes.
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Old 08-11-2013, 04:34 AM
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My personal opinion is RF tires feel like cement and take away from positive driving experience. I took mine off and put on Conti DWS and it feels like I have a new car--no comparison!! I am not constantly scanning road for potholes and imperfections and can actually enjoy ride without worry. To each his own but for me RFT stink and I will never drive with them again! I have Conti kit in trunk just in case to be safe. Cheers all,
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Old 08-12-2013, 06:15 AM
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My personal opinion is RF tires feel like cement and take away from positive driving experience. I took mine off and put on Conti DWS and it feels like I have a new car--no comparison!! I am not constantly scanning road for potholes and imperfections and can actually enjoy ride without worry. To each his own but for me RFT stink and I will never drive with them again! I have Conti kit in trunk just in case to be safe. Cheers all,
Supposedly the Bridgestone RE960 A/S Run Flat is a 3rd. generation run flat that rides very much like a regular tire unlike the Goodyear LS2 which is a 1st. generation run flat design.
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