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Old 07-09-2013, 06:40 AM
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Funny, I checked this morning and it says I am due for rear brakes in 2,400 miles and front brakes in 29,000 miles. I have 30,000 miles on the car. Both os these srtke me as odd. The front brakes usually are due before the rear. The fronts being estimated due at 60,000 miles for the first time just can't be accurate. Brakes last about 30,000 miles right? I have not had any brake service yet. Dealer did tell me that the software has a bug in it. Bug or no bug, I think my front brakes will be whistling and screeching if they have never been done and I am at 60,000 miles.
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:24 AM
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Thank you MWPos! I look forward to hearing back from you.
My SA told me that the screen and the CIC are NOT an integrated unit. The CIC is behind the screen within the dash area so the screen is removed and reinstalled during the CIC replacement.

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Old 07-10-2013, 06:16 PM
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Oddly enough, during the last several days, I have had several people I speak with via the Bluetooth interface in my car state that my Bluetooth, mobile phone quality, was poor. I have never had anyone tell me this before, and now I have had several people complain about my connection. Is this in any way related to the CIC or is this a "new" issue? (Anyone else experience this? - I have not changed phones or phone location in my car.)

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Old 07-10-2013, 09:40 PM
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Can you think of anything you are doing differently that may be raising the ambient or background noise in the car? Windows or sunroof slightly open? AC on a high flow? Background noise will capture the sound-activated microphone and your callers will hear the background noise, not you.

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Old 07-11-2013, 08:55 AM
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No, I thought pretty hard about what might be different. I can not think of one thing that I am doing differently. This really has me stumped. I didn't realize how much I use it and take it for granted until I had to start using my phone off Bluetooth sometimes.

Thanks again for any insights anyone might have!
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Old 07-12-2013, 04:25 PM
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My SA told me that the screen and the CIC are NOT an integrated unit. The CIC is behind the screen within the dash area so the screen is removed and reinstalled during the CIC replacement.

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I have spoken too soon. Today my car once again announced that it past due for service, since 01/2000, exactly the same as in the pictures which started this thread. My SA asked me to bring it in on Monday and plan to leave it for a long time. He said that it has to be referred to BMWNA since the local expertise has exhausted its troubleshooting options which resulted in the earlier CIC replacement.

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Old 07-12-2013, 04:56 PM
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Mine was reprogrammed and appears to be holding, but the car feels sluggish, as if the reprogram lost the throttle tip in fix. Just strange.. I also have similar brake readings....seemed strange as well.
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Old 07-12-2013, 05:17 PM
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possibly....no, probably coincidence, but my rear brake replacement countdown had stalled at 3200 miles remaining for three weeks until this same vehicle start today. The rear brake countdown went to 3100 miles, and the "service due since 01/2000" re-appeared. The car seems fine...nothing wrong that I can feel, but the SA says that this warning is a warning that something is wrong.
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Old 07-16-2013, 09:49 AM
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It seems that the "Service Check Due..." error is linked to a rear (only?) brake replacement countdown flaw and that they are solved, together, by SIB B34 02 13. I'm glad that I mentioned the brake countdown faltering and restarting to my SA! Please see the attached invoice for details. When I took my car in, the Service Check Due since 01/2000 and rear brake replacement in 3,100 miles were indicated. When I got the car back this morning, the Service Check Due indication was gone and the rear brake service was shown as required in 16,000 miles from now.

I hope that this can end the Servce check Due since 01/2000 mystery!

I did notice that the coding I'd done in the CAS module for the following functions has been set back to default and I'll have to re-configure.

- Unlocks doors when engine is stopped (start/stop button is pushed)
CAS => 3002 CLM ER => KEYOUT_AUTOVR => aktiv

- Closes mirrors, windows, and moon roof through Key Fob and Comfort Access
CAS => 3003 FH MASTER => KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_FB => aktiv
CAS => 3003 FH MASTER => KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_PA => aktiv
FRM => 3020 => ASP_BEIKLAPPEN_BEI_KOMFORTSCHLIESSEN => aktiv
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Old 07-28-2013, 03:19 PM
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It seems that the "Service Check Due..." error is linked to a rear (only?) brake replacement countdown flaw and that they are solved, together, by SIB B34 02 13. I'm glad that I mentioned the brake countdown faltering and restarting to my SA! Please see the attached invoice for details. When I took my car in, the Service Check Due since 01/2000 and rear brake replacement in 3,100 miles were indicated. When I got the car back this morning, the Service Check Due indication was gone and the rear brake service was shown as required in 16,000 miles from now.

I hope that this can end the Servce check Due since 01/2000 mystery!

I did notice that the coding I'd done in the CAS module for the following functions has been set back to default and I'll have to re-configure.

- Unlocks doors when engine is stopped (start/stop button is pushed)
CAS => 3002 CLM ER => KEYOUT_AUTOVR => aktiv

- Closes mirrors, windows, and moon roof through Key Fob and Comfort Access
CAS => 3003 FH MASTER => KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_FB => aktiv
CAS => 3003 FH MASTER => KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_PA => aktiv
FRM => 3020 => ASP_BEIKLAPPEN_BEI_KOMFORTSCHLIESSEN => aktiv
Just wondering if the problem has come back? I got the "service due since 1/2000" message this morning, also have had a rear brake warning for some time (stayed at 5000 miles for a long time, now is at 4700).
How long did it take them to do the SIB? I'm driving to Vegas next weekend, and don't want any issues cropping up....
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Old 07-28-2013, 06:34 PM
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Checked the invoice. Just says "reset CBS interval". No reprogramming needed, no software number.
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:44 AM
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SIB B34 02 13's application to my car resolved the Service Check Due Since 01/2000 problem and the inaccurate reporting of brake life remaining and everything seems fine going into the third week post-fix. The SIB update took only a few minutes after the link between the service reminder and inaccurate brake reading was discovered. If I may offer a suggestion, print my invoice and take it with you. This may shorten the kill chain on your problem's resolution and you may even be able to get it done in a couple of hours. My dealer kept my car all day and over the night only because I told them that I couldn't make it back on the same day to pick up my car.

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Old 07-29-2013, 01:06 PM
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SIB B34 02 13's application to my car resolved the Service Check Due Since 01/2000 problem and the inaccurate reporting of brake life remaining and everything seems fine going into the third week post-fix. The SIB update took only a few minutes after the link between the service reminder and inaccurate brake reading was discovered. If I may offer a suggestion, print my invoice and take it with you. This may shorten the kill chain on your problem's resolution and you may even be able to get it done in a couple of hours. My dealer kept my car all day and over the night only because I told them that I couldn't make it back on the same day to pick up my car.

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Thanks.... good idea on bringing your invoice with me. Probably won't get this done until after I get back from Vegas. Does anyone think this is a real issue, or just a software glitch reporting incorrect data?
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Old 08-10-2013, 12:43 PM
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The "Service Check Due since 01/2000" warning came on again this morning. This is the fourth time this problem has been documented so my SA and the service manager will call BMW (Germany, not NA) Monday morning.
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Old 09-04-2013, 03:28 PM
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second day in the shop, just got this from the SA "BMW got back to us and they want us to do a series of programming and calibrations to your vehicle." Sounds like a spa treatment!
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Vehicle Check due..."Since 01/2000"!!

I've had 'service due since Jan/2000' for two months now. Brought it up to my SA during my last trip for tires which resulted in the advice to 'just leave it alone, let them figure it out and I will let you know.' I've taken that advice and no issues at all so it must be a glitch. I Click image for larger version

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I am in the market for a X5 4.8, 2008. Why the blah?
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Old 09-05-2013, 04:37 PM
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Vehicle Check due..."Since 01/2000"!!

@gt The blah is from new tires every 7k on 20 inch rims which amounted to 3k a pop every few months in addition to the X being in shop 1/3 of the year. Was disappointing experience but BMWNA bought it back and that was a good experience from a bad one. All in all the X was excellent if you wanted to look at it only. Like the saying goes 'no matter how good she looks someone somewhere is sick of her crapola.' Wife has a 2014 X1 and it so far is a great Bimmer that surprised me! So with that said if you like power and don't mind new tires- I'd say go for it. I know my situation is not the norm - but that did in my want of an X5 again.


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Ouch! Yeah, those 20 inch wheels are gorgeous...but replacing them at 3 grand a pop, that is blah. Sorry to hear about your experience. Glad you are super happy now! Thanks for sharing!
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It is a software glitch reporting incorrect data. The reason that we, and BMW, may want to take this seriously is that if the Condition Based Service (CBS) system fails to report problems properly, or reports no problem at all if there is one...then we can't trust the CBS system. For example, my CBS showed rear brake pad replacement was due when upon visual inspection the brake pads had more than 7mm remaining. It also showed that the oil change wasn't due for another 24,000 miles....If I had obeyed these I would have trashed a great set of rear brake pads and run my engine 1.5+ years between oil changes. Big deal? Probably not. Wasteful of the brakes, and possibly harmful to the engine? Probably.
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Same with mine. It happened about 3 weeks after my service. All of a sudden, I start the car and see the red halo in the dash showing "service due since 1/ 2000". I also noticed that a screen asking me to chose a profile would pop up after the screen would boot up. I took it in to service yesterday and so far, everything is ok.
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Old 09-16-2013, 02:45 AM
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After many attempts, they have done at least two reprograming, replaced the combiinstrument, they now say that BMW in Munich has found out what the problem is.
I don’t know exactly what they did but the result is that I got new keys…! They say the service indicator pics up a value (01/2000) from a component that is faulty. I guess the keys are a part of that when you use it to see what service has to be done.
So far so good…
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