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BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 07-16-2013, 11:38 PM
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Yup. Just need to know the weight of the correct damper.
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:47 PM
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Real oem popped it right uo. Good tip. Thanks.

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Old 07-17-2013, 07:52 AM
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FWIW, I've noticed that in my 530 my idle is just ever so slightly a bit rougher when I have the A/C running. When I turn off the A/C the idle is very smooth.
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Old 07-17-2013, 09:21 AM
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FWIW, I've noticed that in my 530 my idle is just ever so slightly a bit rougher when I have the A/C running. When I turn off the A/C the idle is very smooth.
That's interesting because there are different rpm maps for when the AC is on and when it is off.

I actually had a chance to look again at my inpa and found that you can change the idle by going to e60/f9/f5/f6 and then putting in 690 (rpm speed). i clicked end and backed out and exited inpa and the idle settings still remained after I turned off the car and turned it back on again. Hopefully the settings stick for good.

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Old 07-17-2013, 03:31 PM
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Interesting. I noticed the vibration before I bought my 08 528i and that I could just touch the accelerator enough to bring the RPM up like 100 and no vibration, so I figured it was a simple idle adjustment, but dealers tell me you can't adjust idle. That doesn't make sense to me because with electronics, you can adjust or tweak more and more, and idle is pretty basic.
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Old 07-17-2013, 03:42 PM
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vibration at idle 2007 525

Just my two cents but on an e39 vibration at idle can be caused by the idle control valve. I don't know if your engines even have one but it could be worth looking into. The exhaust damper might just be a fix


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Old 07-17-2013, 06:37 PM
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That's interesting because there are different rpm maps for when the AC is on and when it is off.

I actually had a chance to look again at my inpa and found that you can change the idle by going to e60/f9/f5/f6 and then putting in 690 (rpm speed). i clicked end and backed out and exited inpa and the idle settings still remained after I turned off the car and turned it back on again. Hopefully the settings stick for good.

Ok so turns out the settings didnt stick. I snooped around some more and found the option that permanently saves the changes.

/e60/MSV70 for N52/F9/F8 and start the engine (if the engine isnt started, there is an ecu conditions error from INPA when trying to read status etc..)

Adjust the offset for each item by entering a number which will be added to the base idle of 660... So if you want to adjust the idle in park up to 690 (660 is default idle) then put the offset as 30. Attached are my settings which I found smoothed out my idle.

With the AC on, it seemed to need a bit more rpms to smooth out the idle since the AC put more of a load on the engine.
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:27 PM
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Try bumping the idle about 50 rpm. I had the issue with my 530i and that took care of it.

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Anyone else have a slight vibration at idle? The vibration can only be felt in the steering wheel and the shift knob. I sat in another 525 with manual tranny and same thing.
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Old 07-18-2013, 09:56 AM
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I have same problem too. just little vibrate when idle. cold or hot or the car run for few hours when stop at idle I feel just a bit vibrate. Took to dealer 2 times, they didn't find any problem. Last time I had a loaner 2013, 528i, 3K ++ miles, and the vibrations is the same symptom my car has. So I assume is "normal" or I have to live with it. What I am thinking maybe the idling RPM kindda low. If they can adjust just the RPM about 50-100 rpm more for idle, then the vibration will be solved.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:30 AM
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Ok so turns out the settings didnt stick. I snooped around some more and found the option that permanently saves the changes.

/e60/MSV70 for N52/F9/F8 and start the engine (if the engine isnt started, there is an ecu conditions error from INPA when trying to read status etc..)

Adjust the offset for each item by entering a number which will be added to the base idle of 660... So if you want to adjust the idle in park up to 690 (660 is default idle) then put the offset as 30. Attached are my settings which I found smoothed out my idle.

With the AC on, it seemed to need a bit more rpms to smooth out the idle since the AC put more of a load on the engine.
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what type of OBD2 cable to use with this INPA, I want to get one so I can run diagnostic and change out my idle value little bit higher. please let me know.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:48 AM
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what type of OBD2 cable to use with this INPA, I want to get one so I can run diagnostic and change out my idle value little bit higher. please let me know.
Depends on your cars build date. For e60s prior to 2007 build date (enter vin on realoem.com to find build date), you just need the cheap k-line cable on amazon...its the blue vag com cable. But for cars 2007 on, you'll apparently need the k+d can cable but do some research as some cables are better than others when using with inpa.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:02 AM
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Depends on your cars build date. For e60s prior to 2007 build date (enter vin on realoem.com to find build date), you just need the cheap k-line cable on amazon...its the blue vag com cable. But for cars 2007 on, you'll apparently need the k+d can cable but do some research as some cables are better than others when using with inpa.
My car built date as shown on the VIN tag at the door is 05/09. So which cable I should get that allowed to program the setting? and software to download.

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My car built date as shown on the VIN tag at the door is 05/09. So which cable I should get that allowed to program the setting? and software to download.

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Start here:

http://bmwcoders.com/forum/bmw-gt1-o...-software-328/

Then here:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=561237

Then here:
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:37 AM
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Just purchased whole set of ODB2 cable interface. I looked at your referred links for software and installation, there are a lot of different version of software. All I need is a single software that I can use and program the new value to my car ( just the idle value). I am not trying to do anything fancy or whole lot of changing. Please point me to the software that I need.

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Old 07-19-2013, 01:59 PM
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Just purchased whole set of ODB2 cable interface. I looked at your referred links for software and installation, there are a lot of different version of software. All I need is a single software that I can use and program the new value to my car ( just the idle value). I am not trying to do anything fancy or whole lot of changing. Please point me to the software that I need.

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You will need to install inpa from those links. That is the software I use to adjust the idle.
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You will need to install inpa from those links. That is the software I use to adjust the idle.
so all I need just the INPA software. that's it ?
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Yep, but for inpa to work you'll need to install the whole suite of applications since it comes in a package anyway. Ediabas, inpa, ncsexpert, winkfp etc.
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Yep, but for inpa to work you'll need to install the whole suite of applications since it comes in a package anyway. Ediabas, inpa, ncsexpert, winkfp etc.
ok will get the software install and waiting for the cables kit arrive. Thanks bro
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Ok so turns out the settings didnt stick. I snooped around some more and found the option that permanently saves the changes.

/e60/MSV70 for N52/F9/F8 and start the engine (if the engine isnt started, there is an ecu conditions error from INPA when trying to read status etc..)

Adjust the offset for each item by entering a number which will be added to the base idle of 660... So if you want to adjust the idle in park up to 690 (660 is default idle) then put the offset as 30. Attached are my settings which I found smoothed out my idle.

With the AC on, it seemed to need a bit more rpms to smooth out the idle since the AC put more of a load on the engine.
Thanks for the explanation on how to use that section of INPA. I have been having the same problem and noticed that after cleaning my ICV (which is half good as per factory values) and clearing engine adaptation, my idle was fixed for few mins and the idle rpm went up to 790-800. But after few min the idle went down to 660 and problem re-appeared. That could be because of some electrical part not functioning optimally and the ecu calculates the load and reduces the rpm. So changing the idle in the software might not be the only solution. Has any body here having to this problem tested the ICV electrically. More details and options are available in one of my threads if you want to read further.

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Hi, I recently purchased a 2008 BMW 528i, after following this and few other forums I cannot find the fix for vibration at idle when car is running at optimal temperature. According to realoem.com production date is 04/2007 and engine is N52N (Left hand drive). I have also diagnosed my car with few BMW dealers and they said everything was normal.

I also told them to look at the BMW service bulletin 18 02 08, however, they said this was not valid for Canadian vehicles as their database does not show this bulletin. Can someone please tell me if its the brackets I need to change or just the damper it self. If so, which exact parts for both and frequency for the damper (83Hz or 32 Hz). Thank you in advance
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Hi, I recently purchased a 2008 BMW 528i, after following this and few other forums I cannot find the fix for vibration at idle when car is running at optimal temperature. According to realoem.com production date is 04/2007 and engine is N52N (Left hand drive). I have also diagnosed my car with few BMW dealers and they said everything was normal.

I also told them to look at the BMW service bulletin 18 02 08, however, they said this was not valid for Canadian vehicles as their database does not show this bulletin. Can someone please tell me if its the brackets I need to change or just the damper it self. If so, which exact parts for both and frequency for the damper (83Hz or 32 Hz). Thank you in advance
You may want to read this thread, it has few options to fix. If you do try any and happen to find a solution, please post back on the following thread. I have been chasing this issue for quite some time.
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You may want to read this thread, it has few options to fix. If you do try any and happen to find a solution, please post back on the following thread. I have been chasing this issue for quite some time.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...826&highlight=
Thanks for the info. I will definitely post a reply if I find a solution to this problem. If anyone has done a fix, please post it in this thread. Thanks
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I will be taking a look to possibly remove the exhaust bracket sometime soon and hopefully that will resolve the issue. Worth the try..
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