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E30 (1982 - 1993)
God's Chariot. The E30 was produced primarily from 1982 through 1991. The cabriolet was the one exception which was produced through 1993.

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Old 07-06-2012, 01:52 AM
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318i or 325i?

Since looking for an E30 to clean up and use as a daily, Ive been wondering what the real differences are in the 318 and 325. I know the 318 has an m10 which is chain driven instead of a belt so that is a pretty big bonus right? And the 318 is more efficient on petrol, Im not sure if it is/what the difference is. But if someone could give me a list of the basic differences, it would be pretty sweet in helping me decide. Ive been looking more toward a 318 to be honest but Ive just noticed a lot of cars on here are 325's

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Old 07-06-2012, 02:28 AM
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Mate, you are in the same situation in that we are here, in that you hava a 120 kph speed limit & might even exceed that ocassionally
The smaller 4-banger will use more fuel then
Unless you have no need for a powerfull smooth running motor....
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:23 AM
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honestly, ive had both (currently the 318i) and i'll say that the 318i is fun as hell to drive =]
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Old 07-08-2012, 06:34 PM
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the yanks will tell you otherwise, but theres really nothing wrong with the 318i E30, so long as its manual. the auto versions are way less efficient than thier 325i cousins. steer clear of the M10 engined ones though (prefacelift) and get an M40. yes its a timing belt, but they are dead easy to replace, anyone can do it with very basic mechanical experience. If you can find a 318iS (M42) then thats the ticket you want.

Ive had an M318i and that would be my second favourite E30 ive ever had, followed by my current 316i. the twincammed E30 was obviously built for totally different reasons
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Old 07-08-2012, 06:47 PM
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an m10 equipped e30 is like driving a slug. you can put your foot to the floor all you want, but grandma in her 4cyl camry is still going to pass you like you're standing still.

if you don't care about performance AT ALL and dont ever plan to use the car for anything more than slow motion grocery getting .. buy the 318. it will be more efficient and you don't ever have to worry about getting a speeding ticket.

if you want a car that's fun to drive, good on fuel and can be made faster later down the line, get the 325. ya, you have to change the timing belt every 3-4 years depending on how far you drive daily. id rather have a car that puts a smile on my face everyday and a frown once every 3-4 years over a car that will just have you frownign for the rest of the time you own it.
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:05 PM
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I see, well I guess Im more inclined towards a 325 now and Ive come across a 325e for fairly cheap and in good condition. Is it better to wait for an i to come along or is the e still fairly good? I guess the fact that the owners manual and bentley manual are based on the 325 helps a fair bit too
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:07 PM
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Also, is it worth looking at 323 e30s aswel or are they not recommended?
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Old 07-09-2012, 03:35 AM
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Also, is it worth looking at 323 e30s aswel or are they not recommended?
Anxiously awaiting the repliy to this question

If you are looking at the 6-cylinders in SA that came in the E30, most of them where 323 and only changed to the 325 in the late 80's and then of course in the Cabrio of the early 90's.
The problem is that a GOOD 325 is difficult to come by here, as most were thrashed to death & the good ones demand a premium (nearly double the 323).
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Old 07-09-2012, 09:06 AM
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Another thing, Im still unsure whether to get an automatic or a manual. Theres autos a-plenty for sale at the moment but no manuals, I want to have fun while driving it (Not hoon around and be an ass but actually learn how the car feels) and appreciate the car. Getting an auto kind of makes me feel as if its just like any other car, foot down and go from A to B. Is there much difference between an auto and manual 325i?
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Old 07-09-2012, 09:30 AM
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Manual, manual, manual, manual, manual.


Did I mention it should be a manual?
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Old 07-09-2012, 09:39 AM
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Manual, manual, manual, manual, manual.


Did I mention it should be a manual?
Ahaha, ok ok. Thats what I was expecting, I only have one problem. Since my dad was pretty slack with helping me get my license and all, I only got it right at the start of this year and he never bothered to teach me to drive a manual since the only one we have is thrashed at the moment. Hes also got a really short fuse. Ive driven it twice now i think though, once for my first ever drive and the second only a few months ago which I went fine with around a couple of main roads and such. Just a couple of bunny hops here and there.. Im trying to get my brother to teach me to drive a manual properly in his car but I was considering buying a manual e30 to kind of force myself to learn to drive one.
I know Ill probably cop a lot of crap about this, but hey. Im a late bloomer in cars since ive never really had an opportunity until now and im going at it full force to teach myself all i can

Oh, and a side note: I wouldn't force myself to learn the manual on busy roads by myself and risk destroying the trans and clutch, etc. Im not an idiot :P

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Old 07-16-2012, 06:14 PM
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M42 engines, if you take care of them, are friggen tanks, i just hit 200,000 clock and it's still running strong. ive TRIED killing it to justify a motor swap and it wont die.

it's an awesome engine, so long as you get a manual, and keep up with the maintenance. ive owned both the 325i and 318i (both manual) and will say that the 318 is my favorite. idk what it is.

haha and thats how i learned stick. you wont burn it out if you're careful
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Old 07-17-2013, 11:19 AM
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Old 07-23-2013, 08:20 AM
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As a Yank I love my 325i but would recommend a 318is with a 5sp for a first car to anyone it's what I gave my daughter .She was fine with it she did move up to a newer 325i then a Mustang w/5sp (her current car) when she went to college (university for non Yanks). The 318is E30 is a great little car that gets OK gas mileage and will run forever if you treat it good.Good Luck & easy on the clutch
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Old 07-24-2013, 01:16 AM
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Lots of good advice above....my two cents worth:

Stay away from M10 motor and the 323 motor because both are pretty old now.

M40 motor is fine but for real performance the M42 is the best.

The 325i engines are classic beauties but with the price of fuel now and the effort of adjusting all those tappets I would give it a miss.

Definitely a manual...the auto boxes on the E30 are so last century...slow and in-efficient!

I am very happy with my M40...very easy to work on and maintain....would love to have a neat 325is if I had lots of money to play around with but would drop an M42 or M43 in my current ride if my M40 blew up!
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