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Old 02-22-2013, 02:59 PM
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'95 525i control arm replacement, lower and upper?

I need to replace my lower front left control arm, according to bridgestone. Should I just go ahead and do both sides (I'm assuming yes). What about the uppers? I'm figuring since I'm going to be messing with it anyway I might as well do it all at once.

I also have to replace the struts, front and rear, if that makes a difference.
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:07 PM
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sounds like an expencive job.

why are they telling you to replace them? usually you can just replace the bushings and/or ball joints and use the original arm. or is the arm bent?
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Old 02-22-2013, 05:24 PM
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I also have to replace the struts, front and rear, if that makes a difference.
Changing all the front end arms at once is a good idea, budget permitting, but it certainly isn't mandatory.

FYI - The E34 has coil-over dampers in the rear, not struts.
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:58 PM
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i would try just front shocks good chance the control arm bushings are ok. Its the upper control bush that fail after 150k has been my experience.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:56 AM
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I'm at about 145k miles. I'm going to go ahead and just replace the whole arm rather than just the bushings because I dont have the tool to press the bushing out and the arms aren't all that expensive. It definitely needs the control arms/bushings done, I can feel it during a turn.

And it not too expensive for the parts, especially if i don't do the uppers. But I think doing the uppers is the way to go. Does it matter whether I replace with steel or aluminum?

I should also correct myself, the diagnostic report says it needs a ball joint, and lists the control arm as the repair part, struts listed as the part on the front and shock absorbers for the rear, at least those are the parts that come up when I Google the parts numbers.

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Old 02-23-2013, 01:31 PM
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Yes I did the upper control arms Steel and front shocks completely cured the braking shudder and 50mph wobble. The lowers are usually aluminum. I think it was really just the shocks were bad on mine .
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:01 AM
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Lowers come in steel and alum. The aluminum ones are substantially lighter. Uppers are steel only, and it is usually the upper big bushing that causes problems.

The ball joints are not replaceable on the arms, so if a joint is bad, you do need to replace the arms. I did all four, as you mention, it just makes sense to do them all at once.

MAKE SURE you use Meyle or Lemforder parts. If not, chances are you will be replacing them again much sooner than you would like.
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:26 PM
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Thanks. I was wondering which parts to use.
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Old 02-26-2013, 06:05 AM
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Lemforder is $$$ but the highest quality. I also dont think they make arms with the bushing already pressed in.

I went Meyle everything on my car, never looked back.
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:23 PM
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Lemforder is $$$ but the highest quality. I also dont think they make arms with the bushing already pressed in.

I went Meyle everything on my car, never looked back.
+1 ^^^

I am pleased with my Meyle parts as well.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:27 PM
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Go to an independent BMW shop and a high quality suspension shop for other estimates. IMO, not everything needs to be done at once. Generally the upper control arms fail before the lowers. BTW, replace components in pairs/both sides. BTW, I do not trust tire stores to know what they are doing on BMWs.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:35 PM
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ebay $120 for a complete set of uppers, lowers, sway bar links and tie-rod ends. Buy the pre-assembled. Forget the center link pitman arm. Get it professionally aligned, And you're done! Sorry $200.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:52 PM
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ebay $120 for a complete set of uppers, lowers, sway bar links and tie-rod ends. Buy the pre-assembled. Forget the center link pitman arm. Get it professionally aligned, And you're done!
That seems like FCP brand quality pricing. I've had not good experiences with the parts. It wasnt long before i bit the Meyle bullet...
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Old 02-28-2013, 02:12 PM
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OEM at Pelican was $400 on my 740. I've never had bad luck with cheap parts, but I never push the car either.
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:20 AM
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ebay $120 for a complete set of uppers, lowers, sway bar links and tie-rod ends. Buy the pre-assembled. Forget the center link pitman arm. Get it professionally aligned, And you're done! Sorry $200.
Like Lapin 229 says. Do the whole thing. If you can do it yourself rather than paying a mechanic you'll get a free education and it really isn't too hard. I ordered the whole front end kit for $140 yesterday from Ebay. (Hoping to fix that rattling front end).
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Old 03-06-2013, 06:45 PM
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OK, Just for the record...

YOU GUYS ARE NOT LISTENING

There are hundreds of e34 owners that will attest to the value of quality parts. The ebay parts are NOT going to last. You WILL be back in the same boat in less than a year by most accounts. For many, they swallow hard and replace the cheap parts within six months because it just isn't worth riding on soggy suspenders.

So you guys buying the ebay parts... were warned
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Old 03-06-2013, 08:04 PM
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OK, Just for the record...

YOU GUYS ARE NOT LISTENING

There are hundreds of e34 owners that will attest to the value of quality parts. The ebay parts are NOT going to last. You WILL be back in the same boat in less than a year by most accounts. For many, they swallow hard and replace the cheap parts within six months because it just isn't worth riding on soggy suspenders.

So you guys buying the ebay parts... were warned
Plus one on the quality parts. For example you can buy cheap rear pitman arms/dogbones for less than $30 each or you can buy Lembforders with harware for about $46 each. Which do you trust?
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Old 03-06-2013, 09:02 PM
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I will stick to my Ebay parts for that price. I'm not going to pay BMW prices to make myself feel satisfied. It's a 1995 car.

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Old 03-07-2013, 04:40 AM
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I will stick to my Ebay parts for that price. I'm not going to pay BMW prices to make myself feel satisfied. It's a 1995 car.
BMW prices? I think my full set of Meyle HD uppers and Meyle lowers was around
$250. When you get around to replacing yours for the second time in less than a year, and mine are still in great shape, I will be the one money ahead on the old car.

It has NOTHING to do with feeling satisfied. It has everything to do with the fact that the parts you bought are junk and will not last.

It is a good thing you are an expert on this subject though
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BMW prices? I think my full set of Meyle HD uppers and Meyle lowers was around
$250. When you get around to replacing yours for the second time in less than a year, and mine are still in great shape, I will be the one money ahead on the old car.

It has NOTHING to do with feeling satisfied. It has everything to do with the fact that the parts you bought are junk and will not last.

It is a good thing you are an expert on this subject though
I am one that learned the above the hard way. I took the advice of a user (no longer on bimmerfest) about FCP control arms and thier wonderful warranty... With in 8 months they needed to be replaced. I used MEYEL for the replacement. And I used Lemforder on the other E34.

No more cheap parts for me. Even with a Warranty, you still need to go through the pain of a redoo. Stick with the Quality parts or be prepairedto waist time and money!
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Old 09-08-2013, 12:28 PM
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Agree with the guys who go with OEM parts, makes since)) even for am old vehicle.
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Old 09-08-2013, 11:20 PM
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i wouldnt even know where to buy parts other than OEM ones.

you posted on here, take the advice the E34 veterans are giving you.
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I went Meyle everything on my car, never looked back.
Been seeing a lot of Myle & Lemforder stuff made in China these days with an obvious deviation in quality from when it was German made....
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Agree with the guys who go with OEM parts, makes since)) even for am old vehicle.
Agree 100%
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