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Old 09-12-2013, 07:54 PM
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how often do you do oil change?

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lol omg nvm

IM not here to discuss oils and which is better and bla bla bla... Ive got enough hours under a lift..

i was asking about the 04 x3 e38 2.5 specifically

something along the line of "when Ign1 engaged the dash display's the mileage since last reset"
Or "when you turn the key it shows the milaged left on till your next service"

lol thanks anyway


When you turn on the ignition it counts down either miles to next inspection or oil change (it alternates with each counter reset but only after reset). There is no other indicator or key position for more info. Its that simple. On n52 models (07 up) there is a button for oil level. The mileage interval is basically a simple countdown based on a few inputs with the two biggest drivers as 1) liters of fuel consumed and 2) number of start cycles. In a lot of ways it's the same as your e39 indicator, it just gives an approx mileage vs red/yellow/green bar.

Posted above is the additional input the n52 has on conductivity of oil in a special tube. I don't think your motor has that.


Now for oil change duration:

7k miles BMW 5w30 synthetic and filter, have since new with first oil change at 1200 miles. I change halfway through the counter.

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Old 09-16-2013, 12:58 PM
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I do it at about twice the BMW recommended interval of every 16.5k miles... So every 8250 miles or so, give or take 500 miles.
Ditto above, I round this off and shoot for every 8k, give or take. I use the BMW 5W30 and DIY those oil changes outside of my maintenance plan (which expired last Feb13). Bought my 07 X3 CPO in Dec08 with 20k -- just hit 100k (time for plugs), and it runs great. All things equal, my rule of thumb with any car is to halve the manufacturer's recommendation for oil changes.

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Old 09-16-2013, 04:24 PM
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I feel like a bad owner since I have my oil changed at the manufacturer's recommended intervals. I do have a couple of questions:

Are there any noticeable indications showing the oil needs to be changed more frequently other than having the oil sent to a lab for diagnosis?

Why would the manufacturer over estimate the maintenance interval if the oil is possible bad before then?
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Old 09-17-2013, 05:09 AM
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lol omg nvm

IM not here to discuss oils and which is better and bla bla bla... Ive got enough hours under a lift..

i was asking about the 04 x3 e38 2.5 specifically

something along the line of "when Ign1 engaged the dash display's the mileage since last reset"
Or "when you turn the key it shows the milaged left on till your next service"

lol thanks anyway
Not sure I'm in the correct section, just brought home an 03 325xi last night & my question was about the oil service w the key as well, when it was changed or when it needs to be changed?

Get me pointed in the right direction here,
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Old 09-17-2013, 06:54 AM
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Not sure I'm in the correct section, just brought home an 03 325xi last night & my question was about the oil service w the key as well, when it was changed or when it needs to be changed?

Get me pointed in the right direction here,
Dave
The general consensus is that 15,000 is too long if you intend to keep the car. I choose to change every 5 to 6,000 miles. Others just split the difference and do 7,500 miles. Approved oils are in your owners manual. BMW oil is good,is competitively priced, and takes the "is this OK" thoughts out of your head. I use BMW filters as well.
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Old 09-17-2013, 07:14 AM
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Are there any noticeable indications showing the oil needs to be changed more frequently other than having the oil sent to a lab for diagnosis?

Why would the manufacturer over estimate the maintenance interval if the oil is possible bad before then?
1. No, only lab will tell you how engine is wearing.

2. less frequent visits for scheduled maintenance - happier customer, and saving money on labor and parts because its covered for the first 50K. Thats 3 oil changes vs 10 or so. you do the math on savings there.
Original owner will not see the engine fail(burn oil like mofo) most likely unless its driven hard. but whoever buys it next will pay for the repairs.
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Old 09-17-2013, 07:58 AM
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Are there any noticeable indications showing the oil needs to be changed more frequently other than having the oil sent to a lab for diagnosis?
It's up to car owners to identify that "severe service" conditions may apply - and that includes repeated short trips and daily idling in heavy traffic.

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Why would the manufacturer over estimate the maintenance interval if the oil is possible bad before then?
- Some car makers want to promote their brand as being low maintenance
(other car makers want to help their franchised sales operations happy with service depts. always busy with frequent oil changes)

- BMW engineers may be convinced that with advances in oil technology, their efficient filters and relatively large oil pan capacity, and the way the engine is designed, make 15K mile changes perfectly fine in most cases

- BMW marketing people may consider the lifetime of a car to be much shorter than most owners have in mind

- it is human nature to go from one extreme to the other when making cultural shifts in things like abandoning the long-standing 3K mile oil service, and we depend on a few practical people to determine if it's a step too far
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Old 09-17-2013, 09:07 AM
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Great suggestestions and comments in this thread. As to the miles till next service, be wary. I bought my '08 a month ago and although the oil had been changed, it was obvious no one thought to reset the service reminder in a while as it said minus 15k++ [which is a little tricky; at least it was for my Indie], so it might not be accurate until it starts at 15K, which seems to be the default.
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Old 09-17-2013, 11:22 AM
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The general consensus is that 15,000 is too long if you intend to keep the car. I choose to change every 5 to 6,000 miles. Others just split the difference and do 7,500 miles. Approved oils are in your owners manual. BMW oil is good,is competitively priced, and takes the "is this OK" thoughts out of your head. I use BMW filters as well.
+1. Generally I pay about $90 for dealer special and get OEM parts. This includes a new 328 loaner.
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Old 09-26-2013, 07:55 AM
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Every 6K miles (or 10K kms), Mobil1 0W40. 100K miles so far, no issues.
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Old 09-26-2013, 06:15 PM
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What about filter? The least expensive is a K&N, at least that I've seen, any real difference?
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Old 09-29-2013, 04:52 PM
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Old 09-30-2013, 08:19 AM
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5W 30 or 0W40, this is getting complicated, but it needs to be synthetic right? How about high milage? Read that once it's used needs to be used all the time.

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Old 03-24-2014, 11:20 AM
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BMW Synthetic every 10K, easier to remember that way. Just changed it at 90k.
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Old 03-24-2014, 12:04 PM
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Synthetic oil every 5,000 miles. (Mine is not an X3, but I suspect the same principle applies to all BMWs, if not to all cars.) I intend to keep mine as long as I can.
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Old 03-24-2014, 05:04 PM
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:16 AM
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I used M1 and Gastrol full synthetic on my Mini, Saab, Volvo, and BMWs..... and I changed mine at every 5K miles.
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:24 AM
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7500 for the BMW (Synthetic).
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:09 AM
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:55 AM
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Old 03-26-2014, 07:25 AM
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Been using BMW LL01. Just had it changed at 10K. I have a sample and am gonna send it in for analysis. Will report back.
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Old 03-26-2014, 07:36 AM
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Been using BMW LL01. Just had it changed at 10K. I have a sample and am gonna send it in for analysis. Will report back.

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Old 03-26-2014, 10:25 AM
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Change oil every 5k, using LL01--Mobil-1 0w-40. Do not need any report. Have 225k, and my last E30 had 275k and still running strong (no need for report)
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Old 03-26-2014, 12:20 PM
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Been using BMW LL01. Just had it changed at 10K. I have a sample and am gonna send it in for analysis. Will report back.
here is mine from some time back
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