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Old 09-14-2013, 07:11 AM
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What did end up replacing your RFT tires with?

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Old 09-14-2013, 07:59 AM
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What did end up replacing your RFT tires with?

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I (actually BMWNA) replaced them with 245/45/18 RFTs and 18" wheels. These are a standard F10 RFT size. Others seem to have been successful in using 245/45/19 RFTs on their existing wheels although it will affect speedometer and odometer readings by a few percent.
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Old 09-17-2013, 08:19 AM
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Continental RTFs

Just bought a pre-owned 535i with Continental RFTs, 245/45/18s. Part of the deal was fixing a vibration at speed. The dealer balanced the tires; improvement, but the car still had the vibration. I checked the wheel runout: radial runout was <.015on all four wheels and the axial runout was typically >.040. Dealer checked the wheel and tire runout and said they were OK. Vibration persisted. Next try was relacement with new Continentals: no help. Next try was replacing the wheels and tires (Goodyear LS2s, BMW spec) from another 535i that didn't have any vibration. Success, but the FTM did not work with the new wheels. The dealer took all eight tires off the wheels and put the good FTM sensors on the good wheels with the good LS2s. The car now rides smooth as silk, just like a BMW should.

Dealer gets my vote for dedication. BMW and Continental tires get an black eye.

FTIW, my 330Ci has Continentals (non-RFTs) that run great.
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:47 PM
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In Barbados where potholes can swallow your car, including your tires, I had a large bubble rupture in one of my 16 size Michelin MXV4 non-run flat tires(was Mercedes 300 car). I have never had a problem with bubbles yet with runflats on two BMWs the current 528i having 18 inch wheels and Continental SSRs runflats. Only problem I find with runflats is tram-lining on irregular road surfaces and, when they get quite worn tend to make more noise than non-runflats.Thats my experience.
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Old 10-10-2013, 06:04 PM
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I am laughing at myself as I walked out of braman bmw today. My concierge or person that buffers you from the rest of the BMW team told me the reason the front of the car is shaking itself apart at 75 miles an hour is because my back tires are bald,,,,,,, I said get the f out of here that is not possible, they only have 7k miles on them, so she walks me out to my car and low and behold my rear tires are bald. I started laughing because she told me the only way to diagnose the front end issue is to put on new tires and then have it checked. I looked at her and said did you just hear what you said, you want me to put on new tires AFTER ONLY 7 K miles. Didn't phase her a bit. Had to laugh as I walked out.
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Old 10-10-2013, 06:08 PM
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I am laughing at myself as I walked out of braman bmw today. My concierge or person that buffers you from the rest of the BMW team told me the reason the front of the car is shaking itself apart at 75 miles an hour is because my back tires are bald,,,,,,, I said get the f out of here that is not possible, they only have 7k miles on them, so she walks me out to my car and low and behold my rear tires are bald. I started laughing because she told me the only way to diagnose the front end issue is to put on new tires and then have it checked. I looked at her and said did you just hear what you said, you want me to put on new tires AFTER ONLY 7 K miles. Didn't phase her a bit. Had to laugh as I walked out.
don't let them trick you. they're covered by goodyear. if they put a claim into goodyear they will be replaced for free.
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Old 10-11-2013, 07:21 AM
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I asked her about that and she told me that the tires showed even wear. I agree that the balding back tires is the most likely cause of the shimmy up front, my pissue is having to install oem runflats again to prove it. She hinted at the fact that if i put non OEM tires on the car there is a possibility that they wont cover the cost of fixing the shimmy if it is still there. Double whammy. Love it. So Iam thinking of gambling and putting on non run flats and hope the shimmy goes away.
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Old 10-21-2013, 06:30 PM
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Has anyone with M-sport suspension or DHP moved to Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3? how's the ride now?
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Old 10-24-2013, 03:53 PM
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Flew my first tire today - hit some sort of pothole at a road joint (did not see it at all) and popped my front passenger side tire. Car is sitting in my garage until I have time to address it - driving other car until then
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Old 01-20-2014, 06:37 PM
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It came time - 3 years and 30,000 miles - to replace the GY LS2 tires. After discussion with Tire Rack I opted for Continental Extreme Contact DWS. They are all weather but not run-flat. I am very pleased! The ride is smoother and quieter. I had the tires sent to my BMW dealer who installed them for me and said the warranty is still OK (I own the car). I also ordered the Conti repair kit to travel with in my trunk. I figure that if I get a flat driving 50 miles at 55 mph on the run-flats is not much better than filling the tire with gunk or stopping to refill air now and then. I know the gunk will ruin the pressure sensor, but I spent about $100 less for each tire so spending about $150 to replace the sensor I am still $300 ahead. If a tire is slit or split so the repair kit won't work a run-flat tire will not run either. Bottom line is the new tires feel and drive great and I highly suggest them.
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Old 01-21-2014, 07:16 AM
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My wife blew out a Blizzak RFT today in a small pothole on the way to work. BMW had zero snows in stock so we have to use a rental car till they replace the tire under the tire/wheel warranty. Great timing with this stupid snow storm hitting now.
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Old 01-21-2014, 04:02 PM
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So I had second hand LM22s on Rial rims. They don't make them anymore so buying 2 LM25s and one new Rial rim to replace the bent one. What a ****ty day. Hoping that BMW will reimburse me for one tire at least.


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Old 01-23-2014, 08:58 AM
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Still problems with the Goodyears on 2014 models?

I have a 2011 535xi Sport package that came with the dreaded Goodyear Eagle LS2 RFT all-season tires. After replacing 5 tires in the first 4 months my dealer agreed to replace them with Pirellis, which had ZERO problems for the next 2 years (proving that those Goodyears are crap).

My lease is up soon and I would like to go with another 535xi, but if they are still shipping with the Goodyear Eagle LS2 RFT, and the problems have not yet been resolved, then I'm afraid my BMW days may be over. I do not wish to give up AWD, or Sport Package, and I refuse to take a chance with the Goodyears. Plus, I'm sure the tire insurance is well above the $1,000 I paid for it back then.

Questions:

1. Does the 535xi Sport Package still ship with the Goodyear Eagle LS2 RFT? Has the tire been re-designed at all to fix the propensity to develop bubbles?

2. I see Dunlop SP Sport 5000M DSST is now available as the only other all-season RFT in this size. Is it a good tire?

3. What is BMW charging for tire/wheel insurance these days? My dealer is in Greenwich, CT.

Any information would be appreciated.
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Old 01-23-2014, 10:48 AM
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I can share my particular experience and you can draw your own conclusions as to whether or not the problem is fixed.

In October 2010. I purchased a 2011 535ix for European Delivery. I did not order 19" M Sport wheels and tires, but when I got to Munich and was ready to take posession of the car, BMW told me there was a supplier problem with obtaining the standard 18" wheels and tires so they had upgraded me to 19" 331 style wheels (and GY LS2s) at no charge. No problem I thought, but I did purchase the insurance for around $1000 at my dealer since I had never had runflats and was bit hesitamt about them. I put about 46,000 miles on the car and went through 4 GY LS2s, always on the front and the only symptom being a bulge on the sidewall but no loss of air or handling issues.

Last May I purchased a 2013 535ix with the M Sport package this time. It came with 19" 351 M Sport wheels and GY LS2s. I have about 9,000 miles on the car and no issues yet.
1) Am I just lucky so far?
2) Are the GY LS2s better in 2013 than they were in 2011?
3) Are the different wheels a better fit for the GY LS2?
4) Some combintion of 1,2 or 3?
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Old 01-23-2014, 11:29 AM
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Last May I purchased a 2013 535ix with the M Sport package this time. It came with 19" 351 M Sport wheels and GY LS2s. I have about 9,000 miles on the car and no issues yet.
1) Am I just lucky so far?
2) Are the GY LS2s better in 2013 than they were in 2011?
3) Are the different wheels a better fit for the GY LS2?
4) Some combintion of 1,2 or 3?
Since your mean time between failures on the first set was 11,500 miles, I'd say you haven't put enough time on the second set to answer the question. Keep us informed.
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Old 01-26-2014, 09:25 AM
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My dealer has agreed in principle to swap the tires on my new 2014 535i xDrive.

I have been using 245/45R19 on my 2011 without incident. Can I assume the additional height is not a problem on the 2014 model too?

Currently I have DHP but I am planning to go with M Sport suspension this time.
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Old 01-26-2014, 10:37 AM
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I have a 2011 535xi Sport package that came with the dreaded Goodyear Eagle LS2 RFT all-season tires. After replacing 5 tires in the first 4 months my dealer agreed to replace them with Pirellis, which had ZERO problems for the next 2 years (proving that those Goodyears are crap).

My lease is up soon and I would like to go with another 535xi, but if they are still shipping with the Goodyear Eagle LS2 RFT, and the problems have not yet been resolved, then I'm afraid my BMW days may be over. I do not wish to give up AWD, or Sport Package, and I refuse to take a chance with the Goodyears. Plus, I'm sure the tire insurance is well above the $1,000 I paid for it back then.

Questions:

1. Does the 535xi Sport Package still ship with the Goodyear Eagle LS2 RFT? Has the tire been re-designed at all to fix the propensity to develop bubbles?

2. I see Dunlop SP Sport 5000M DSST is now available as the only other all-season RFT in this size. Is it a good tire?

3. What is BMW charging for tire/wheel insurance these days? My dealer is in Greenwich, CT.

Any information would be appreciated.
I replaced my Goodyears with 19" 45 series Bridgestone A/S Run Flats (POTENZA RE960A/S POLE POSITION RFT).
The sidewall is a bit higher and I have not had a bubble problem since i switched. I went through 6 Goodyears and had had enough. The speedometer difference seems minimal. The ride is also much better, the sidewall seems to have more give in the Bridgestone's.

I have a 2014 550 ix coming in April and will pass on the tire insurance and replace the stock Goodyears with these Bridgestone's. I want the look of 19" wheels but not the hassle of 40 series tires and I want to stay with A/S Run Flats if at all possible.

With the roads as bad as they are, and getting worse, here in the Northeast there are plenty of 45 series tires with issues too but the higher sidewall on the 45 series tire seems to make a big difference over 40 series tires.
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Old 01-26-2014, 07:58 PM
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I replaced my Goodyears with 19" 45 series Bridgestone A/S Run Flats (POTENZA RE960A/S POLE POSITION RFT).
The sidewall is a bit higher and I have not had a bubble problem since i switched.
Thanks, this is the exact tire I am going to ask for.

I had the non RFT version on my 2008 E60 and they were great.
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Old 01-27-2014, 12:00 PM
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Thanks, this is the exact tire I am going to ask for.

I had the non RFT version on my 2008 E60 and they were great.
Your Welcome, I figure worst case on my 2014 I might go through few tires with the roads as bad as they are but the hassle of wasting time at the dealer to change many 40 series bubbled Goodyears was driving me nuts and I'm saving the tire/wheel insurance cost. I guess if I hit a giant pothole and destroy a wheel I might think differently but so far that hasn't happened.
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Old 01-27-2014, 12:26 PM
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My dealer has agreed in principle to swap the tires on my new 2014 535i xDrive.

I have been using 245/45R19 on my 2011 without incident. Can I assume the additional height is not a problem on the 2014 model too?

Currently I have DHP but I am planning to go with M Sport suspension this time.
There's no M Sport suspension on xDrive models, even if you get M Sport Line. Only RWD gets the M Sport suspension. Your xDrive will have the base suspension unless you get the DHP.
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There's no M Sport suspension on xDrive models, even if you get M Sport Line. Only RWD gets the M Sport suspension. Your xDrive will have the base suspension unless you get the DHP.
Right; for a minute I thought of going back to RWD as I do miss it. But then my car would have been in the garage half this winter so far.

Now I have to decide whether to go with DHP this time. I'm leaning towards it, since I am inclined to get every option that improves the handling and makes the car more fun to drive aggressively.
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Old 01-27-2014, 01:02 PM
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Right; for a minute I thought of going back to RWD as I do miss it. But then my car would have been in the garage half this winter so far.

Now I have to decide whether to go with DHP this time. I'm leaning towards it, since I am inclined to get every option that improves the handling and makes the car more fun to drive aggressively.
I would, if xDrive was a requirement (I'm in Cali, so not). Also search on the Active Steering - I haven't driven it, and it doesn't seem too popular, but those on here that have it say that it makes a big difference in making the F10 drive "smaller".
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Does the extra diameter of the 45 series tires create any rubbing issues?
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Old 01-27-2014, 04:53 PM
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Guys I was dismayed to find a bubble or protrusion in the sidewall of my RFT this morning. The sensor is not on in the vehicle and I cannot notice any performance degradation, but it is certainly visible. I don't have my digital camera otherwise I would include a photo. Recommendations welcome, do I keep driving it or take it in, from what i have read there is no repairing them, just replacing. Bummer...I felt a pothole last week but didn't think it was that bad?
My friend has a 2012 Sport Line with 18" Pirelli centurion P7's and at 7K miles, a bubble appeared. Dealer refused to replace (did not have ins).

He raised holy hell, and after a long bitch session and name calling, they gave in, replaced type, just to shut him up.

I have a 2013 F30 M Sport with same tires and 22K miles. No problems; in fact they will need replacing in 10K more miles at the most. Plan to buy same tires again; only $160 ea.
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Does the extra diameter of the 45 series tires create any rubbing issues?
No rubbing issues at all. The 45 series 245/19 tire is just 1" higher than the 40 series (27.7" diameter vs. 26.7")

As far as the speedometer difference between the 40 series and 45 series 245/19 tire it's 3.5%, here's some MPH examples: All in all not a big deal.

The speedometer with 45 series tires reads 70 MPH when the 40 series equipped car reads 67.5 MPH, 45 series will read 80 MPH when 40 series reads 77.1 MPH, 45 series 50 MPH vs. 48.2 MPH for 40 series.
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